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[3986.48 --> 3992.38] ball you know and not just like hey thanks you know like uh maybe a text expander or something like
[3992.38 --> 3996.90] that or some sort of you know snippet that you kind of put in it's like you know you really look and
[3996.90 --> 4002.50] you re-quote and you ask for clarification you kind of give more feedback you're you know i i really
[4002.50 --> 4006.52] wonder when you say you know you do this in your free time like you must have a lot of free time so
[4006.52 --> 4012.56] are you really going to school are you two people that kind of thing i've definitely slacked off on my
[4012.56 --> 4017.52] on my classwork enough uh to to make sure that that the amount of time that i have on github is
[4017.52 --> 4024.30] substantial so i will uh apologize to my professors on behalf of my time on jekyll um but that i mean it's
[4024.30 --> 4030.06] taken a long time to to get there but um i find that if you if you're kind and if you're if you're
[4030.06 --> 4034.60] you give constructive feedback then people will be kind in return and that's there's so much
[4034.60 --> 4040.06] animosity in the open source open source uh community that to yell at people is not useful
[4040.06 --> 4044.72] yeah um and it's it's sort of counterproductive to the idea of let's build something awesome together
[4044.72 --> 4049.32] we've we've talked about that a little bit on the on the show before just kind of like the not so nice
[4049.32 --> 4055.30] responses from people and just the attitudes because it i mean we talked about burnout on the show before
[4055.30 --> 4061.82] with lee hambley and capistrano and some other projects that have come on and people who uh lead
[4061.82 --> 4067.06] those projects have expressed just burnout and you can't always uh help your attitude sometimes you
[4067.06 --> 4072.18] know let's maybe talk to you in two years and see if you feel the same way um but i mean it does it does
[4072.18 --> 4077.82] happen um regarding the future of jekyll there's one question i i do have as a dovetail off of what you
[4077.82 --> 4083.86] said before you said um you know you need more people you need more manpower so to say um
[4083.86 --> 4089.00] how does that how does that play into github that's what i keep coming back to because
[4089.00 --> 4094.90] it's obviously a part of pages they obviously have the money to employ people are they a part
[4094.90 --> 4099.40] of these conversations to make sure that jekyll thrives and jekyll grows and jekyll is awesome
[4099.40 --> 4108.48] they aren't as much i will say um they're at the moment it's sort of a uh in maintenance mode pages is
[4108.48 --> 4113.36] i'm i'm certainly building new features um and making it you know as as great as i can
[4113.36 --> 4120.82] um but there's they aren't building as many new features into into pages certainly um and what
[4120.82 --> 4126.92] they what they primarily want is to see pages be something something that makes you know documentation
[4126.92 --> 4133.58] really really great software documentation so if i if i'm bootstrap how can we make sure that
[4133.58 --> 4140.98] jekyll and that pages are well suited to your um to your needs for that particular project
[4140.98 --> 4147.28] so to make sure that that jekyll is as general as possible is sort of what um and not too complicated
[4147.28 --> 4152.72] of course um is sort of what ben's been doing as a part of sort of as an acting entity of github
[4152.72 --> 4158.34] and also in his own his own uh wishes he'd like to see something that's simple and easy to use
[4158.34 --> 4165.26] rather than something that's super complicated um or super specific so they aren't they aren't that
[4165.26 --> 4171.12] heavily uh involved in in jekyll but they've certainly supported me in huge ways um whether
[4171.12 --> 4178.88] it's just like random boxes of goodies um or you know hey um we want this feature added to jekyll can
[4178.88 --> 4187.76] you write it for us we'll pay you well um i guess the last question is a is a fun one that i think you
[4187.76 --> 4194.00] may have touched on at least one hero right uh but who are your you know you can name one you can name a
[4194.00 --> 4198.40] few it's we don't really have any sort of roles here but uh if you had to name some programming
[4198.40 --> 4206.56] heroes who would they be um i definitely have a bunch um and they've i i'm i tend to take to heroes
[4206.56 --> 4212.62] pretty quickly um because they're someone that i can look up to and and it sort of gives me a goal
[4212.62 --> 4219.18] um to set so i'm starting off in in middle school when i was learning basic um the guy's name was dan
[4219.18 --> 4227.50] lavoi um later it was nick rao um who now works at modcloth as a software engineer um really brilliant
[4227.50 --> 4232.10] guy who he was the one who originally taught me how to use rails um and got me interested in ruby
[4232.10 --> 4238.00] so he's the reason that i i know ruby at all um leaf walsh was a um an acquaintance in in high school
[4238.00 --> 4242.90] who is just ridiculously brilliant um he got a joint degree at stony brook suny stony brook
[4242.90 --> 4248.60] um in like theoretical mathematics and computer science um and then of course they're the you
[4248.60 --> 4256.10] know they're the i guess more general or more normal uh answers of um people like tom um and
[4256.10 --> 4261.02] chris wanstroth who wrote um and pj who wrote github initially and just sort of wrote it in their
[4261.02 --> 4267.50] spare time um people like ben who are amazing product people but also or or sort of um product
[4267.50 --> 4274.40] managers and can can develop vision um in addition to writing amazing code um and so and and people
[4274.40 --> 4281.92] from my time at sex wonderkinder as well um um hans hasselberg um uh ryan levick um uh
[4281.92 --> 4288.56] chus or joseph bach um he's a great guy and chad fowler as well um they're all like just amazing
[4288.56 --> 4296.70] people that i've i have looked up to um and have tried to try to be more like yeah several uh in
[4296.70 --> 4303.62] there i definitely share similar remarks but uh this has um this has been well i guess probably
[4303.62 --> 4307.40] one of our longer shows in the last several shows i think we just kind of got on some riffs there and
[4307.40 --> 4313.24] i want to pull you off and i'm glad that you were uh such a good trooper for the show parker so um
[4313.24 --> 4317.16] thanks so much for having me i know we we wanted to get you on the show for a while and i'm just you
[4317.16 --> 4323.72] know very excited about what you're doing so keep up the great work um however we can be of a support
[4323.72 --> 4330.30] to you and to help uh to help you and matt kind of keep this project you know at the forefront and
[4330.30 --> 4335.90] just knowing that it is the the next generation and the the way to be when it comes to uh static
[4335.90 --> 4340.14] site generation and the future of it and you know octopress we hope to have brain on the show
[4340.14 --> 4345.12] in the near future about that so i want to just you know you got our support however however we can
[4345.12 --> 4351.68] give it so um great thank you so much uh same to you as we uh to close out the show i want to give
[4351.68 --> 4358.80] another shout out to our awesome sponsors rackspace uh snapci and top towel uh for supporting the show
[4358.80 --> 4364.54] they do an awesome job to help make sure we stay around as part of just helping uh parker do his
[4364.54 --> 4370.38] awesome work and help him stay around so uh i also want to plug our new partner to div shot uh who's
[4370.38 --> 4376.66] helping pave the way for really awesome static web hosting for developers uh and they're hosting jekyll too
[4376.66 --> 4380.36] so we'll give you more information about that for the members and if you're not a member yet you
[4380.36 --> 4384.82] should check it out but uh that's it for this week we'll be back next week and until then
[4384.82 --> 4388.48] uh parker and i will say goodbye so bye-bye bye-bye
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• Introduction of Dave Canada, a UX designer at Google, and his side project "buckets", an open-source CMS built on Node.js and MongoDB.
• Dave's background and experience in design and development, including his work on jqTouch, a JavaScript library for creating native-like experiences on the iPhone.
• The transition of jqTouch to a commercial product, Sentia, and its eventual release as open-source software.
• The renaming of jqTouch to JQT due to trademark issues.
• The current status of Dave's project, "buckets", and its development on Assembly.
• Building apps and a design experience with commercial incentives and open source
• Initial idea pitched to Benchmark, a VC firm, and potential for seed funding
• Creator burned out on the project after a month and considering a community-driven approach
• Idea validated by the Assembly community and discussion of its concept and functionality
• Assembly as a platform for open-source projects with commercial incentives and bounty system
• Discussion of how Assembly works, including bounties, coin system, and distribution of profits
• Potential benefits of Assembly, including collaborative opportunities and ownership for contributors
• Discussion of the development process of a content management system (CMS) called Buckets
• Comparison of Buckets to other CMS options, including Keystone JS and Ghost
• Discussion of the challenges of creating a CMS that is both feature-rich and user-friendly
• Explanation of the design philosophy behind Buckets, which aims to create a more streamlined and intuitive experience for content creators
• Comparison of Buckets to blogging software, with a focus on the differences between a CMS and a blogging platform
• Discussion of the vision for the CMS features and functionality in Buckets.
• Discussing the concept of buckets and fields in a CMS
• Creating a recipe-like structure for content with cover photos, titles, lists of ingredients, and steps
• Manipulating and validating fields in the CMS
• Comparing the proposed CMS to existing content management systems like WordPress and text pattern
• Discussing the idea of a multi-tenant CMS and its implications
• The creator's current development status (version 0.7.0) and slowed development pace
• The need for a clearer direction and the potential for a platform-like approach
• Figuring out target audience for a content management system (CMS)