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• Identifying and understanding the needs of web designers and developers |
• Competition with existing CMS platforms, including Drupal and WordPress |
• Community involvement and contributions to the project on Assembly |
• Monetization and architecture of the product |
• Balancing community input with the need for a concrete plan |
• Challenges of creating a CMS with open-source software and community involvement |
• Discussion of Assembly and Buckets collaboration |
• Signing up for Buckets on Assembly and the sign-up process |
• Bounty creation and assignment of coins |
• Maintaining a share of Buckets (e.g. 10%) and its implications |
• Comparison of Buckets to Kickstarter and other Assembly projects |
• Need for team assembly and community building for Buckets |
• Restrictive measures to prevent spam and ensure quality contributions |
• Discussion of allowing more anonymity within the app, including anonymous chat and GitHub issues |
• Comparison of Assembly's current setup to other projects, such as GitHub and open Slack rooms |
• Debate over allowing GitHub issues, and the potential for confusion |
• Introduction of Top Towel, a platform for hiring top developers, including node.js developers |
• Discussion of the current team size and structure, with the speaker being the core team for now |
• Mention of contributors to the Assembly project, including Charles Pletcher with 69 commits |
• Idea of finding a technical co-founder or partner to help make decisions and share responsibilities |
• The speaker discusses a vetting process for potential team members, where they can contribute and gain equity over time. |
• The speaker mentions Charles Pletcher, a back-end hacker who was offered a position on the core team but declined. |
• The speaker describes their dream situation, working on the user interface and custom fields in Node.js. |
• The speaker explains their choice of using Node.js and MongoDB, citing convenience, experimentation, and scalability. |
• The speaker discusses the benefits of using a document-based database, such as MongoDB, for storing and querying data. |
• The speaker highlights the role of the Mongoose library in their decision to use MongoDB with Node.js. |
• The speaker mentions the importance of a clean user interface and user experience in their project, Buckets. |
• The benefits of using CoffeeScript and its impact on contributor engagement |
• The use of CoffeeScript as a low-overhead and motivating choice for the project lead |
• The trade-off between using CoffeeScript and potentially attracting more contributors |
• The project's vision and philosophies as outlined in the vision document |
• The use of Assembly as a platform for managing the project and its bounties |
• The importance of keeping documentation and copy in sync across different platforms |
• The call to action for listeners to contribute to the project and help shape its future |
• The role of Assembly and the project's bounties in making it easy for contributors to get involved |
• Discussion of Dave's project and its profitability |
• Mention of a previous episode featuring Dave |
• Shoutout to sponsors CodeShip, Digital Ocean, and Top Tile |
• Upcoming episode with Codis Poé (with Curtis) on the topic of Pearl |
• Unusual ending to the episode with a correction to the guest's name |
• Final goodbye and thanks to listeners |
[0.00 --> 14.32] welcome back everyone this is the change log and i'm your host adam stankowiak this is |
[14.32 --> 19.62] episode 132 and on today's show we have dave canada joining us to talk about buckets |
[19.62 --> 26.92] it's his project he's building on assembly it's a cms built on node.js great show today for you |
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[78.34 --> 89.12] changelog sent you and now on to the show all right we're back this is uh adam i got david on the line |
[89.12 --> 95.06] as well jared on the line jared say hello hey everybody that uh sort of a bum voice this time |
[95.06 --> 102.20] around so we'll keep your talking to a to a minimum but david canada is with us he uh hey everyone |
[102.20 --> 106.34] he's no stranger to the show david you had to remind me sorry that that you were on the show |
[106.34 --> 113.12] way back when that's okay i think what was it five years ago or that was a very yeah let me go find |
[113.12 --> 122.64] the episode number uh you were on episode 30 and that was like forever ago july 27th 2010 there you go |
[122.64 --> 128.90] that's that's a long time ago and you were talking about sentia at the time too so yeah that jogs i |
[128.90 --> 135.12] remember it was like i forget like a couple months after i first moved to california and i've been here |
[135.12 --> 140.24] just about four or five years now gotcha and so we're having you on the show today because uh |
[140.24 --> 148.88] you're building an open source cms on node.js with mongodb you're building it on assembly it's totally |
[148.88 --> 153.30] a side gig so full-time you're a ux designer at google so you've got some you know you've got some |
[153.30 --> 158.18] history and the world knows some and probably uses several pieces of software that you've helped build |
[158.18 --> 164.40] or uh or uh or prop up and whatnot but that's what we have on the show today uh i think it was about |
[164.40 --> 168.02] two months ago two or three months ago we reached out and you weren't quite ready to come on the show |
[168.02 --> 175.18] and now you're i think you're at what uh 0.7.0 now is that right yeah yeah i mean it's still super early |
[175.18 --> 182.32] in the project but um but yeah it's i gotta tell somebody about it at some point yeah so i guess for |
[182.32 --> 186.92] those who don't uh know who you are and a bit more than what we just explained about you how do you |
[186.92 --> 192.52] introduce yourself i i say in terms of like the whole title thing i just say designer generally |
[192.52 --> 200.28] um although you know for the past five years or so i i definitely write way more code than i spend in |
[200.28 --> 207.16] photoshop or anything like that now but um i identify as a designer i started in print design |
[207.16 --> 214.76] uh got into the web started doing flash you know sort of all types of sites and then |
[214.76 --> 222.36] sort of around that time about five years ago i did jq touch which was a javascript library for |
[222.36 --> 228.54] creating native like experiences on the iphone and then that just sort of led into a whole sort of |
[228.54 --> 235.34] avalanche of doing mobile work and i think a lot of designers especially like web designers sort of |
[235.34 --> 241.62] fell down that path of getting into mobile what year was that i remember being a jq touch user back in |
[241.62 --> 250.36] the day it was uh i remember being amazed by it too thanks i think that was like six or seven years |
[250.36 --> 258.14] ago that first came out and uh and yeah it it blew me away like in terms of you know i just made this |
[258.14 --> 264.88] thing and i had you know sort of vaguely seen and used open source software but i just thought you |
[264.88 --> 270.62] know what am i going to do i'm not going to sell this thing but um but i think it's powerful so i so i put it |
[270.62 --> 276.38] out there and um you know this is like a little bit of a humble brag but i was just kind of blown away |
[276.38 --> 282.34] to see you know thousands of people starting to use it didn't that transition to something else at |
[282.34 --> 289.26] some point it went from jq touch to to something else i believe a paid product or so uh two things i i |
[289.26 --> 299.08] basically uh sent you which was called extjs then hired me uh and uh we formed a small team to work |
[299.08 --> 304.72] go and sent you touch and that um that was like commercial for like a month and then it became |
[304.72 --> 311.86] free and all that it's you know some corporate stuff and then um uh and then jq touch itself was |
[311.86 --> 320.40] renamed to jqt at some point because somebody like got angry for some reason crazy trademarks |
[320.40 --> 326.06] trademarks were you gonna ask jade before i jumped in there i was just gonna say i think that it just |
[326.06 --> 331.20] it struck a chord there was a big need or at least we thought we had a need for those types of |
[331.20 --> 336.22] toolkits at that time right when mobile just started kind of exploding it's funny these days |
[336.22 --> 343.10] because you still see them yeah all the time there's ionic now there's uh that one came out from the |
[343.10 --> 351.90] bootstrap uh team like uh ratchet i guess um but yeah it's it's interesting so tell us about buckets |
[351.90 --> 357.04] i was gonna say this is uh it's being built on assembly let's dive into this product and what's |
[357.04 --> 364.86] yeah so i mean i guess even before assembly like buckets is just a thing i've wanted to do for a long |
[364.86 --> 372.88] time i mean i i think i i would imagine the majority of web designers have either wished for a better cms |
[372.88 --> 381.18] or tried to build one or you know it's definitely not a new issue or problem um but i just |
[381.18 --> 389.06] as i as i as i left sentia about two years ago um i had spent pretty much my entire time there |
[389.06 --> 398.64] doing this sort of front-end heavy uh javascript and css you know framework and um was kind of eager |
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