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[1966.62 --> 1971.06] is that semantic versioning or what kind of versioning were you guys well you know we got we got yeah it |
[1971.06 --> 1976.16] wasn't semantic versioning so no it was definitely not and that was the the whole thing like when we |
[1976.16 --> 1980.70] did the versioning uh the hardcore developers were like well that's not semantic versioning and then |
[1980.70 --> 1984.86] we're like well seriously people actually said that i'm not even kidding you we've gotten hate mail |
[1984.86 --> 1990.32] about that not bad but definitely yeah you know haters gonna hate kind of thing uh-huh um i can pull |
[1990.32 --> 1994.00] up the email and quote directly if you want but i don't think that would serve the audience any any |
[1994.00 --> 2000.54] better but yeah so five by five has been great working with dan has been great uh he and had in the team |
[2000.54 --> 2007.56] over there have just definitely uh helped helped us over the years be a better show and and reach a |
[2007.56 --> 2013.04] larger bigger audience and you know so their support has been great uh we've had tons of great guests |
[2013.04 --> 2018.56] all this year i didn't i didn't write a list of all of our guests this year maybe you might uh jared |
[2018.56 --> 2025.20] have the the list in front of you um but i know we've had so many great shows this year i think we've |
[2025.20 --> 2030.36] done i'm gonna try and guess at how many shows we've done this year let me scan the list real |
[2030.36 --> 2042.80] quick we've probably done well that was no black friday we've done from episode 117 to episode 34 |
[2042.80 --> 2051.28] so we've done you know roughly 20 some shows this year which is not weekly we are weekly podcast it |
[2051.28 --> 2055.80] does not broadcast weekly we try as i said we've had some ebbs and flows and we're not going to digress |
[2055.80 --> 2062.96] to that but um a lot of great shows this year so this year started out with jeremy sands um talking |
[2062.96 --> 2069.06] about go for cass and go and martini um i didn't really plan to go down all the people that have |
[2069.06 --> 2072.54] been on the show this year but just lots of great guests this year we got thankful for as well so |
[2072.54 --> 2083.36] pretty pretty cool yeah chad whittaker uh tim caswell justin searles olivier lacan yeah i'll say that |
[2083.36 --> 2088.82] one right i'll say that one for you yes livier of course the epic keep a change log yes of the |
[2088.82 --> 2092.84] change log that was an epic show a lot of people love that show that was a great one so if you're |
[2092.84 --> 2097.64] listening go back and listen to 127 that was great well that guy's just a character yeah super |
[2097.64 --> 2104.68] enjoyable and uh had a very uplifting message which is to keep a change log yes that's as easy as it can |
[2104.68 --> 2111.88] be keep a change log um yeah some other other good names i guess that i enjoyed talking to parker |
[2111.88 --> 2120.32] more i did that one alone um uh parker runs and took over the jekyll project and if you use jekyll to |
[2120.32 --> 2126.66] blog then you know parker you probably uh you're definitely using his code of course but he's he's uh |
[2126.66 --> 2134.06] he's a cool guy as well i think he now works at uh visco which is uh runs the app it's the ios app |
[2134.06 --> 2141.70] called visco visco cam okay um so he went to work there i believe i think he was um like an intern |
[2141.70 --> 2145.90] of some sort at github i can't recall what his exact title was but he was working with github on |
[2145.90 --> 2150.14] jekyll and github page and he probably still does that i haven't caught up with him in a while yeah |
[2150.14 --> 2155.70] but that was a cool show too jekyll's cool like yeah i missed out on that show i i i remember parker |
[2155.70 --> 2161.34] very specifically because i used to watch jekyll on github like very closely yeah because you know |
[2161.34 --> 2166.42] back i'm sure you guys talked about all this but it was you know slowly rotting for a long time it |
[2166.42 --> 2175.54] was bad um and i watched i watched this guy swoop in and just take save the day over and i'm like who |
[2175.54 --> 2180.60] is this guy at first because he just commented on every single issue just like hopped in there |
[2180.60 --> 2186.96] it's like someone just decided i'm gonna save this thing and uh just really just gave it a 180 |
[2186.96 --> 2193.50] and it was pretty amazing to watch one where he got that bravado um i don't know where he got it |
[2193.50 --> 2198.88] but what i will say is that we definitely talked about that on that show so if if you're listening |
[2198.88 --> 2203.86] and you want to know more about what jared's talking about with parker and how he swooped in |
[2203.86 --> 2209.26] and took over from tp dubs or tom presson warner as you know him from being a co-founder at github |
[2209.26 --> 2215.12] um he talks about that there he talks a little bit about his bravado too where he gets that uh |
[2215.12 --> 2220.16] that kind of character he's he's uh i believe he's german so he's got that going for him |
[2220.16 --> 2227.02] um and i know he speaks german um not that that gives you any reason to have bravado but that's |
[2227.02 --> 2232.54] you know he's he's got some oomph behind him he's he's a character for sure great guy and great in |
[2232.54 --> 2239.58] open source too i think he's his he's all green on his github he's all green i'm sure so maybe another |
[2239.58 --> 2243.78] thing we can talk about before we uh sign off here it's something i believe weekly started this year did |
[2243.78 --> 2252.02] it not weekly did it start this year um did it start this year i don't know i know we did uh 29 |
[2252.02 --> 2257.46] issues i'm thinking that's less than half of it let's see less than a year okay we started shipping |
[2257.46 --> 2264.48] the change law weekly which is our weekly email august 15th 2013 so it didn't really begin this year |
[2264.48 --> 2272.60] and uh the reason why we don't have as many issues as we should is because in april on april 5th or |
[2272.60 --> 2279.84] in or around that space i ran out of gas okay and uh you came in and saved the day and we'll talk |
[2279.84 --> 2285.20] that's a that's a good conversation too because it sort of revived this newsletter i loved doing it but |
[2285.20 --> 2295.02] it was like just a ton of work because i uh need help and you provided that help we'll dig into what |
[2295.02 --> 2301.92] that means here in a bit but yeah april 5th i ran out of gas i had issue 30 started and never shipped |
[2301.92 --> 2308.06] it and i bummed me out because uh we got lots of good feedback from the change all weekly so we've got |
[2308.06 --> 2314.94] you know several thousand subscribers that read this thing every week and it's just we share headlines we |
[2314.94 --> 2320.84] share repos we share the most recent issue or sorry recent episode of the show and we share a couple |
[2320.84 --> 2328.04] videos and now we all we also share some some uh projects or mentions from the ping repo we talked |
[2328.04 --> 2333.16] about earlier right so we're plugging things that happen there so we're sort of given a way to |
[2333.16 --> 2339.48] have everybody sort of have a say so of what's what's being mentioned on there not a huge degree but at |
[2339.48 --> 2347.16] least enough sure and you know ping is a big source of of uh you know incoming awareness of what's |
[2347.16 --> 2352.66] happening open source for us and obviously we watch twitter and the known uh the known hashtags out |
[2352.66 --> 2358.20] there carefully and sort of curate to a degree headlines and projects and what's going on so it's |
[2358.20 --> 2363.56] been fun shipping the change law weekly it's it's been great well let me provide a little context around |
[2363.56 --> 2371.88] this burnout around this burnout of yours because uh you shipped 29 episodes of weekly in a row which is a |
[2371.88 --> 2379.24] newsletter that ships on saturday morning first of all uh secondly you were hand coding everything |
[2379.80 --> 2387.00] pretty much in html i mean it's an erb template um but you know you're inside your what do you what |
[2387.00 --> 2391.40] do you use to write you sublime text or you have a text yeah okay so you got your text editor open |
[2392.04 --> 2397.80] and you're had hand coding these things out all by yourself for roughly half of i mean 29 weeks that's |
[2397.80 --> 2406.20] about half a year yeah on friday nights right yeah i would i would collect so i i had this philosophy |
[2406.20 --> 2411.24] of capture always so i would yeah you know in all sorts of different ways which we still use that |
[2411.24 --> 2416.28] right yeah i would email myself essentially a link i thought was interesting and then later in the week |
[2416.28 --> 2422.12] i would sit down and go through this entire repository of of interesting links and just kind of comb through |
[2422.12 --> 2429.32] them and create this newsletter based on that and nobody can keep that pace going no no it's not one |
[2429.32 --> 2435.40] person no right it was and i would write you know i would write the you know detail i didn't just copy |
[2435.40 --> 2439.72] and paste it was you know i took some intentions with that not pat myself on the back but i really |
[2439.72 --> 2446.60] wanted to make sure that the point of of it was to give a clear curated voice of what's happening so |
[2447.16 --> 2451.80] almost a summary of what happened that week in open source it wasn't comprehensive but it was sort of |
[2452.36 --> 2458.44] curated based on a perspective so you sort of have that going for you but it was personal it wasn't |
[2458.44 --> 2463.48] just robotic and that was the intention of it and and after a while i sort of burned out on uh on being |
[2463.48 --> 2469.24] able to keep that up and then i got bummed out couldn't automate it fast enough and then took a i |
[2469.24 --> 2474.20] don't know like five month break and then you came in and saved the day for me well let's just say that |
[2474.20 --> 2479.00] the readers came in because you know we get pinged all the time not just on ping but also via the contact |
[2479.00 --> 2485.80] form and on twitter and we just became slowly it's kind of like what's that chinese water torture |
[2485.80 --> 2489.64] where it just keeps dripping the water dripping on your forehead yeah and eventually you just can't |
[2489.64 --> 2495.64] stand it and uh so many people loved you know weekly that they just kept saying where is it |
[2495.64 --> 2499.88] what happened to you guys you know some people are mad some people are just bummed out |
[2499.88 --> 2505.80] and i also was a weekly reader so like you said you did the entire thing yourself so i would just |
[2505.80 --> 2512.76] read it on saturday mornings so um i was like we got to fix this somehow and there's just no way that |
[2512.76 --> 2517.72] what you're currently doing would scale right um so i said well i'll get involved and i'll help |
[2518.36 --> 2524.28] bring the content in but now all of a sudden you need collaboration tools right you can't just i mean i guess |
[2524.28 --> 2529.48] we could have had a repo i mean it is a repo on github but yeah um you know we could have just |
[2529.48 --> 2535.64] hand coded that same file and then just pushed and stuff but we needed more high fidelity uh |
[2536.76 --> 2541.80] collaboration tools and we were already using trello for pretty much everything else |
[2542.36 --> 2549.48] um we use it for managing the podcast like you said the radar where adam emails in his uh links |
[2549.48 --> 2555.32] that he finds go into a it's the change the radar it's our open source radar yeah right um the |
[2555.32 --> 2562.12] podcast uh we were doing some of the editorial for a while in trello um and so i'm not sure if it was |
[2562.12 --> 2568.92] you or me that said why don't we just managed weekly inside of trello it was you it was not me it was me |
[2568.92 --> 2573.16] it was totally your idea like this is not at all my idea i didn't even i mean i knew trello had an |
[2573.16 --> 2577.00] api and i knew we can do something with it i just never thought to do what we did with it and |
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