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[1948.24 --> 1952.96] there's a security concern or a safety concern or a personnel issue in the case of people actually |
[1952.96 --> 1958.54] working on giddup like a sensitive personnel issue i'm handling that private privately like no questions |
[1958.54 --> 1964.54] asked give me a call you know private message me you know show up my house i mean i've had you know |
[1964.54 --> 1969.46] yes yeah giddup collaborators show up my house right and like you don't hear about that on the internet |
[1969.46 --> 1975.44] until just now right like and that's like in a bed we're in a good way uh good way like hey can we |
[1975.44 --> 1980.02] hack sure okay come on in well yeah like so i don't want to get into too much detail right but like |
[1980.02 --> 1987.46] the the point is that there is this baseline um i am willing to do private conversations for that |
[1987.46 --> 1994.06] kind of stuff that kind of really sensitive stuff um then you know then there's this middle ground which |
[1994.06 --> 2000.16] is like like the kind of stuff that uh you know you and i are talking about right like you know |
[2000.16 --> 2007.04] projects would be fun to do together you know your uh you know your own relationships with privacy on |
[2007.04 --> 2010.82] the internet that you negotiate for yourself is is different than mine like you've got the setting |
[2010.82 --> 2016.70] you know you've got the dial tuned to a different place than i do um you know but it's it's not like |
[2016.70 --> 2020.64] you're in danger it's not like you're like chad somebody's coming after me on giddup and i i need your |
[2020.64 --> 2028.42] help right um you know so in that case yeah man i'm i'm a little sad about it but it's you know |
[2028.42 --> 2033.78] it's an opportunity cause i'm sorry man so like release early release often he's not gonna budge |
[2033.78 --> 2039.48] i know right but that like that's the hard thing is like i love you right like i want to work together |
[2039.48 --> 2043.96] with with you and with everyone else and you know this is this is what i'm bringing to the table you |
[2043.96 --> 2049.36] know it's like uh it you know the reason i'm doing it this way like you know i've got my reasons for |
[2049.36 --> 2053.14] doing it this way just like you have your reasons for doing it that way so it i don't know i guess i |
[2053.14 --> 2056.58] guess at the end of the day there's an agree to disagree you know and i and i can respect that |
[2056.58 --> 2060.10] that's that's where i was like you know what i don't want to i could have responded and said no |
[2060.10 --> 2065.08] you're a jerk come on let's just talk offline but i didn't want to force you because i know what |
[2065.08 --> 2068.44] you're trying to do i know your mission with get up and i know where your heart's at so i didn't |
[2068.44 --> 2073.28] i didn't want to question why you were doing it i figured uh yeah you know we can delay the |
[2073.28 --> 2079.06] conversation potentially and you know no harm no foul i'm not upset with you i just wanted to point that out that |
[2079.06 --> 2083.82] you know you've got direct users of get up that have an issue with uh to some degree with you know |
[2083.82 --> 2087.12] from a security standpoint like you mentioned then you have someone like me who's you know maybe from |
[2087.12 --> 2091.00] a business standpoint or maybe from just a community standpoint how can we work together and i don't |
[2091.00 --> 2094.88] want to air out the laundry like right away i wouldn't mind obviously making everything open we're |
[2094.88 --> 2101.08] about open source and this yeah this show goes on air once a week and this one in particular live so |
[2101.08 --> 2105.34] we have no problem with what we say going out to the internet and being documented forever |
[2105.34 --> 2111.04] right right right yeah so one of the things we've discovered is that the real world is kind of a |
[2111.04 --> 2117.26] pain in the ass for open companies you know because it's like unless everybody's wearing google glass |
[2117.26 --> 2123.72] you know how are you going to record your your meeting that's face to face right um it's i don't know so |
[2123.72 --> 2131.04] but at the same time that that that scopes it or there's you know there's only so much real life |
[2131.04 --> 2136.64] interaction that you can do and that provides i don't know like if you and i run into each other |
[2136.64 --> 2141.64] at a conference or something we end up going out for drinks or you know going out and talking like |
[2141.64 --> 2149.02] that's great that's perfect right um i'm not you know i don't not go to conferences because they're |
[2149.02 --> 2153.94] not broadcast live on the internet you know the whole time i'm there right your preference is reality |
[2153.94 --> 2161.98] tv and if not if it's not available then no problem well i i've sort of i like the balance |
[2161.98 --> 2168.50] right i don't you know kind of what i've come to is like i'm not going to be able to make any |
[2168.50 --> 2175.64] decisions about stuff um you know in a in an offline face-to-face conversation right um you know |
[2175.64 --> 2179.28] that that's part of what it comes down to is like anything that's actually going to move the needle on |
[2179.28 --> 2183.46] get it anything that's actually going to be a decision that we make like i might have a conversation |
[2183.46 --> 2189.10] with you about it privately um but if it's actually going to manifest as something real on the internet |
[2189.10 --> 2193.80] on giddip then it's going to have to go through the public vetting process in a github issue or |
[2193.80 --> 2201.06] whatever you know what i mean so it's kind of yeah i don't know i see a distinction there between |
[2201.06 --> 2206.66] the interpersonal level where it's like i can only interact with so many people in a day because i'm like |
[2206.66 --> 2212.60] a you know a bony gut bag that like walks around in meat space right and like that that puts its own |
[2212.60 --> 2218.52] limits on what you can accomplish in gut bag space and that's uh that's appropriate right |
[2218.52 --> 2222.48] you know because phenomenologically like i am a person i want to interact with other people |
[2222.48 --> 2227.52] um you know and the the internet's this sort of weird ether where you can interact with you know |
[2227.52 --> 2234.74] a billion people very tenuously um and and kind of both of those together are are part of uh or i |
[2234.74 --> 2238.88] don't know or they're both part of the equation for me you know and i don't know this is where it |
[2238.88 --> 2243.86] gets more nuanced right it's like it's not it's not a it's not a simple open companies everything |
[2243.86 --> 2249.58] has to be open transparency radical transparency like i don't know yeah i don't know this is where |
[2249.58 --> 2254.40] it gets more interesting right right and it's so the i think we've been on this particular topic for a |
[2254.40 --> 2258.80] bit and it's not not in a bad way but it's it's so the reason i think it's really important is because |
[2258.80 --> 2263.26] it's at the heart of you and you're at the heart of giddip so it's at the heart of your story so |
[2263.26 --> 2268.74] anyone who's listening to this knows that you're to some degree radically transparent you have a |
[2268.74 --> 2272.74] open company initiative you're leading the charge in some way in some ways you're in uncharted |
[2272.74 --> 2277.90] territories i mean in many many ways right this is brand new i think you had absolutely open |
[2277.90 --> 2283.14] company.biz which now redirects to some other domain that is the i think so the ideas evolved |
[2283.14 --> 2289.04] to opencompany.org and i think you've even merged some relationships and and whatnot so |
[2289.04 --> 2295.48] yeah so we launched this open company initiative uh with balance payments and a couple others and |
[2295.48 --> 2300.56] and it's it's small and we're just kind of you know seeing where it goes but the idea is let's |
[2300.56 --> 2306.04] get together companies that are interested in these kind of themes and uh you know and just talk to one |
[2306.04 --> 2311.00] another and and share experience and whatnot so it's manifesting as an annual looks like it's going |
[2311.00 --> 2315.78] to manifest as an annual event uh you know we did it a couple months ago in in san francisco and |
[2315.78 --> 2321.78] we'll probably do it again next year um yeah it's a pretty light touch there but yeah so there's |
[2321.78 --> 2326.10] there's two you have two kind of tenants of an open company the second of which which you said is |
[2326.10 --> 2331.06] charge as little as possible and i guess that is the one that that to me doesn't seem as so much as |
[2331.06 --> 2337.08] open in the sense of transparency right maybe it's open in a different way can you speak to why that's |
[2337.08 --> 2341.80] you know number two on the list of things a company should do yeah so one of the things uh we've |
[2341.80 --> 2347.88] been saying in the open company conversations is transparency is sharing information and openness |
[2347.88 --> 2358.50] is sharing control okay so so when i publish um you know when buffer publishes their salaries |
[2358.50 --> 2367.02] publicly that's sharing information that's transparency right right when i open up my issue tracker |
[2367.02 --> 2372.84] uh you know to your feedback and you can come and create issues on my issue tracker like balance |
[2372.84 --> 2378.96] does with their dashboard for example right that's sharing control that's letting users uh you know |
[2378.96 --> 2383.54] yeah in some ways this is stuff that's done you know with like user voice and get satisfaction |
[2383.54 --> 2389.68] whatever that kind of stuff too right but sharing control and so for me the um the charge as little |
[2389.68 --> 2394.66] as possible thing is part of sharing control because really you know from that initial blog post like |
[2394.66 --> 2399.02] year and a half ago or two years ago or whatever when i put out the initial blog post get up as an |
[2399.02 --> 2403.78] open company i said it was three things share as much as possible charge as little as possible and |
[2403.78 --> 2408.78] don't compensate employees so that's kind of it's evolving and we haven't you know come up with a |
[2408.78 --> 2416.14] really clear articulation of uh of how it's evolved but um but but basically the idea around money is like |
[2416.14 --> 2424.38] i'm even giving i'm giving the users control over my money too right it's like not only not only can you |
[2424.38 --> 2427.90] determine which way the product is going but you're going to determine how much money you make |
[2427.90 --> 2431.72] from it worth to yeah exactly you're gonna determine how much it's worth you you're making |
[2431.72 --> 2437.16] your full living on get up right pretty much man yeah so that that was like that was part of this |
[2437.16 --> 2442.30] two-year window is like all right is get up going to reach the bottom rung of sustainability |
[2442.30 --> 2450.12] within two years you know so my runway is about done um you know the the good news is we do have |
[2450.12 --> 2455.88] ash dryden who's you know up to like 800 bucks a week now and you know advertises on her profile that |
[2455.88 --> 2463.48] she's 95 like 95 percent of her income comes from get up so clear answer yes you can make a living on |
[2463.48 --> 2470.12] get it no questions asked done ash is doing it um there's other people that are that are trying as |
[2470.12 --> 2477.00] well you know obviously not as successfully as ash um yeah i i pull what four or five hundred bucks a |
[2477.00 --> 2482.52] week from it between what's given to me personally what i take from the get up team um which is almost |
[2482.52 --> 2486.56] enough it's not quite i was gonna say you have four kids and a wife i have four kids and a wife and a |
[2486.56 --> 2493.10] mortgage yes i've been burned down so i've been living off of uh get up and savings and welfare uh for |
[2493.10 --> 2499.34] the past couple years and the the savings are about done and uh yeah so we're i we still have a week or |
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