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[2935.68 --> 2941.36] have somebody in mind so uh who is your guys's programming hero yeah so from my point of view |
[2941.36 --> 2946.64] i already mentioned i was a customer for a long time for microsoft and um the reason i really jumped |
[2946.64 --> 2952.48] on dotnet when it came out was the fact that i used delphi quite a bit before and uh i was i found |
[2952.48 --> 2957.60] that delphi was an amazing experience and then the guy who did pretty much delphi went to microsoft and |
[2957.60 --> 2962.72] did c-sharp and that's andrew heilsberg so from that point of view like he's he's somewhat my hero in |
[2962.72 --> 2968.16] the sense that you know it set my career and uh influenced my decision to join microsoft as i said |
[2968.16 --> 2973.28] many people here i didn't join microsoft i joined the team that owns dotnet and uh that happened to |
[2973.28 --> 2978.80] be microsoft but if that would be any other place that's where i would have been awesome anybody else |
[2979.68 --> 2987.04] uh that's good enough for me personally i don't know if faroon has uh an answer bill gates anybody |
[2987.04 --> 2989.92] i'd say modern more than |
[2993.52 --> 2998.72] you heard it here first another question that we tend to ask which i think probably is apropos for |
[2998.72 --> 3003.92] you guys yeah is a call to arms uh for the open source community you're speaking directly to the |
[3003.92 --> 3009.04] open source developers here today what would you say what how can they help you or what would you love |
[3009.60 --> 3013.44] uh for the open source community to do with regard to your new you know dotnet open source stuff |
[3013.44 --> 3018.48] yeah i can i can take that one so the one thing you just mentioned is like the honeymoon phase where |
[3018.48 --> 3023.60] everything is awesome right um we will certainly like my team although like we certainly talked to |
[3023.60 --> 3028.08] a bunch of other teams around here that did open source and you know already way past the honeymoon phase |
[3028.48 --> 3032.72] like you know everything is different every every requirement is different so that's some of the |
[3032.72 --> 3036.08] stuff that we're working on are things like you know how do we do api reviews what do we decide |
[3036.08 --> 3040.40] something is good or not in a transparent fashion and so it is very likely that we will do mistakes |
[3040.40 --> 3045.04] we will do not be as transparent as we promised we would be or we will miscommunicate certain |
[3045.04 --> 3049.52] things or we will just annoy somebody by closing their pull request so if one of those things |
[3049.52 --> 3053.92] happen then we absolutely do want to get feedback from the community and we want to have a conversation |
[3053.92 --> 3059.60] about that and if you go to the forums uh at the net foundation.org there's already a whole bunch of |
[3059.60 --> 3063.92] like people talking about how we do open source what we do well what we don't do well what we could |
[3063.92 --> 3070.32] improve on what we should uh do differently and and that's really for me like the the primary uh |
[3070.80 --> 3074.24] feedback that i am looking for i mean there's always people that want to do pull requests but |
[3074.24 --> 3079.20] it's it's it's from all the people that we reach it's the minority but you know a lot of people |
[3079.20 --> 3084.16] you know benefit from the transparency and so that's the thing i really want to get |
[3084.16 --> 3086.16] i get a handle on whether we do a good job or not |
[3088.64 --> 3094.32] so you mentioned dotnet foundation a couple times in the show uh it makes sense to mention here at the |
[3094.32 --> 3100.16] end that um that we do plan to have you and beth or sorry varoon and beth on upcoming show to talk |
[3100.16 --> 3105.60] about the dotnet foundation and what that is but can you talk a little bit about just a snapshot of |
[3105.60 --> 3111.52] what the dotnet foundation is you mentioned earlier that uh core effects is is uh granted to i think is |
[3111.52 --> 3116.88] the word you used to the dotnet foundation what does that mean what is it uh what is that foundation |
[3116.88 --> 3125.20] yeah that's a great question so basically dotnet foundation you know is an effort uh which is to |
[3125.20 --> 3130.88] aggregate the dotnet community kind of basically together there are a lot of projects that are happening |
[3130.88 --> 3136.16] in process like some of the new ones that are coming on board like dotnet core so the idea is to |
[3136.16 --> 3141.60] kind of have you know common place where we can you know kind of advance the community uh you know at |
[3141.60 --> 3147.76] the same time together it is uh you know community driven effort it is being bootstrapped by microsoft |
[3147.76 --> 3156.00] at this point uh but uh it is going to be a community driven it's its own entity separate from microsoft |
[3156.00 --> 3164.08] its advisory council will also have people from the community so the whole idea behind dotnet foundation is |
[3164.08 --> 3170.56] that like dotnet core has joined the foundation many other projects have you know joined the foundation |
[3170.56 --> 3176.40] and they're actively contributing you know working with each other in the foundation so for all the |
[3176.40 --> 3181.44] new open source developers or the current open source developers dotnet developers are exploring open |
[3181.44 --> 3187.44] source is a great place to kind of bring your projects work together and kind of contribute in existing |
[3187.44 --> 3193.20] projects or you know make your new ones with the community together there are a lot of advantages that |
[3193.20 --> 3199.12] you know come from working together and growing a community so dotnet foundation is that one |
[3199.12 --> 3205.04] one attempt in the upcoming you know podcast that we'll do we'll talk more about you know the exact |
[3205.04 --> 3210.16] specifics but in terms of call to arms i'll recommend you know request everyone to visit the dotnet |
[3210.16 --> 3216.88] foundation dot org website and learn more about it uh there is an email address where you can get in |
[3216.88 --> 3222.00] touch with us uh and you know talk about your existing projects some of the new ideas you're thinking about |
[3223.04 --> 3228.56] and i want to mention too um only because it's timely we don't usually time stamp our shows that much |
[3229.12 --> 3234.08] to a degree but uh you've got as jared mentioned you've got some change happening in several open |
[3234.08 --> 3239.28] source large open source communities where uh you've got corporate partners and sponsors that have |
[3239.28 --> 3245.04] sort of been paving the way and we asked a couple questions around your choices with dotnet core and some |
[3245.04 --> 3250.08] of the future we can expect in open source but i think it's worth mentioning just because of this tail off |
[3250.08 --> 3257.84] the dotnet foundation the fact that at least what i see now is that your approach towards um the foundation |
[3257.84 --> 3263.92] a lot of good open source is built around a foundation versus a corporate entity sort of open governance and |
[3263.92 --> 3268.32] the community is what you mentioned there so i think from what i'm hearing it sounds like you guys are taking |
[3268.32 --> 3275.44] the right steps to go towards linux and mac uh adoption for development platforms uh open sourcing the |
[3275.44 --> 3280.72] the the platform itself or open sourcing you know dotnet core and and the the bcl as you mentioned |
[3280.72 --> 3286.80] before so congrats definitely on that can you maybe mention anything else on that fact that uh you know |
[3286.80 --> 3293.12] it's about community that that there's nothing um that's sort of like microsoft and then versus the |
[3293.12 --> 3298.24] community it's sort of just based on this foundation absolutely and maybe tease the fact we're gonna have |
[3298.24 --> 3303.84] this upcoming show with that you know tease the fact um i completely agree with you know the summary uh |
[3303.84 --> 3309.44] around that it's very important to build open source projects around a community rather than a corporate |
[3309.44 --> 3316.48] entity and that's what foundation aims to be um and i think it'll go a step further the idea is to |
[3316.48 --> 3322.32] you know bring together all the other you know basically cool dotnet projects that are going on and |
[3322.32 --> 3327.20] you know uh you know aggregating them at the same place so that they can connect with each other |
[3327.20 --> 3332.24] and sort of you know cross-pollinate and you know participate in various projects and this kind of should |
[3332.24 --> 3340.16] uh you know accelerate the whole dotnet community as a whole uh you know as imo said you know previously |
[3340.16 --> 3346.72] we are all in into this um and the only way we'll be all in if you know all the community works together |
[3346.72 --> 3348.64] then you know some you know guides from here |
[3351.12 --> 3355.60] well i uh i know that jared and i are definitely excited to have you guys on the show we appreciate uh |
[3356.24 --> 3359.36] you coming on the show beth sorry you couldn't make but we'll definitely catch up with you and |
[3359.36 --> 3364.48] varoon on dotnet foundation dive deeper so for those listening with bait of breath on that one |
[3364.48 --> 3368.40] stay tuned that might happen in the new year i'm not sure if it'll happen before christmas or not |
[3368.40 --> 3373.12] we'll definitely we'll definitely do our best to try but rich emo and varoon thank you so much for |
[3373.12 --> 3378.32] joining us today on this show and thank you to to everyone behind you your team behind you making |
[3378.32 --> 3382.32] your appearance here on this show and talking about dotnet core and what's happening there |
[3382.32 --> 3387.84] possible i know you've got a lot of excited people that are part of your team that are you know |
[3388.32 --> 3393.84] lifting you up and and you know doing lots of great stuff so really appreciate all the effort that that |
[3393.84 --> 3401.20] goes into making your appearance here today um come true for us and we're excited about it so um i do |
[3401.20 --> 3405.52] want to mention before we tail off we got a couple sponsors that make the show possible code ship top |
[3405.52 --> 3410.96] top towel and rack space um some really great uh sponsors we have on the show so we very much |
[3410.96 --> 3415.92] appreciate their support um and and with that unless there's anything else let's uh let's all say goodbye |
[3416.48 --> 3421.84] so goodbye from me goodbye goodbye from rich uh thanks for the opportunity to be on the show |
[3421.84 --> 3426.96] no problem guys thanks for having us yeah thanks guys this is varoon uh it was exciting to talk to |
[3426.96 --> 3429.04] you guys thanks for having us thank you |
[3429.04 --> 3438.48] this is |
[3441.12 --> 3454.96] you |
[3459.04 --> 3489.02] Thank you. |
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