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**Ashley McNamara:** It was obviously something that the community needed, and eventually it will grow to be bigger and better... When we all have time. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** So what's the next bigger and better step for Gopherize.me? |
**Ashley McNamara:** Well, I think that people need to be able to use a color picker to pick their own hair color; there's that. Maybe same for the color of the gopher; that way I can cut out a lot of the duplicate hairstyles in different colors. That would be nice. |
Then I would like to be able to have people customize a T-Shirt. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That'd be awesome... Like, get your own gopher on your own T-shirt. |
**Ashley McNamara:** Well, no... Like, the gopher's T-shirt. Upload a photo - that will be on there, instead of having all of these T-shirts that you're obligated to use if you want a T-shirt. Type a message on, something... So that's next. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Nice. But yeah, just kind of upload your own image to put on your T-shirt. |
**Ashley McNamara:** Exactly. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That'd be pretty cool. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** You're talking at OSCON this year, aren't you? |
**Ashley McNamara:** I am, yeah. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** What's your topic at OSCON? |
**Ashley McNamara:** Building a command line applications with Go. I'll be doing it with [Steve Francia](https://twitter.com/spf13). |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, nice! |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Nice! The [Cobra](https://github.com/spf13/cobra) guy. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** The [Hugo](https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo) guy, too. |
**Ashley McNamara:** Hugo guy, yes. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And now the Go team guy. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's right. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I said Cobra because it's the CLI related talk... But he's many things, for sure. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** True. |
**Ashley McNamara:** He's many things, but yes, we will be using Cobra. We will also be doing it at Craft Camp, which is coming up pretty soon... Except there we have to make a three-hour talk sixty minutes, I think. So that will be fun. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** "And this is how you do it. Thanksbye." |
**Ashley McNamara:** \[laughs\] Right, exactly. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So we kind of moved away from the topic, but there was one that I wanted to mention, too. We were talking about your resources to learn; one of them we didn't point out specifically was [for kids](https://github.com/ashleymcnamara/STEM_Resources_For_Kids). I thought that was really cool, too. |
**Ashley McNamara:** Yeah, so I actually made that one first. That one came from -- my child is extremely nerdy. He's always breaking things. About a week ago he decided that he wanted to make a plasma ball himself, and he would put steel wool in the microwave... \[laughter\] So that was fun... We have a book called Th... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's awesome. |
**Ashley McNamara:** It's a good book. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I've seen that book... It makes my blood boil. Why is it for boys? Everything in there a girl can do. Seriously... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Good point. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Oh my gosh... |
**Ashley McNamara:** We should rebrand it. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Imagine girls reading that book... What does it mean? Only boys are allowed? Because that's how little kids think... First grade, second grade, third grade - that's how they think. |
**Ashley McNamara:** Well, that's the reason why this industry will not be equal in our generation... Or our kids' generation. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** \[32:02\] Sorry for side-tracking... Let's go back. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, it's a really good point, Carlisia. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, we need to start with our kids. It's really hard to change perception for people... This is why they have the C-level suites at banks and all that stuff; it's the good ol' boys club. It's really hard to change their opinions, but it's really important for the newer generations, and that's why... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Wait, why is it only millennials? Why did they get all the credit? \[laughter\] |
**Ashley McNamara:** I don't know, I have one of those, too... But on that topic, he wants to change her major to more computer science type things from business. She went to her school counselor with her change list, and the counselor was like "Honey, this is gonna be too hard for you. You should probably just stick w... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Oh my god... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh my god... |
**Ashley McNamara:** I did sign her up for any of the classes she wanted. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Did you go back and give this woman a talking, too? |
**Ashley McNamara:** I didn't find out until way later, unfortunately... Because I would have had words. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Not family-friendly ones? |
**Ashley McNamara:** They would not be from that list I put in Slack, I'll tell you that. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I hate the perception that we put on people that these are elite things that only the super smart do... I think it was a recording of [Bryan Liles](https://twitter.com/bryanl) at one of the GopherCons... He said "Everybody thinks you have to be ridiculously smart, and there are some people that are... |
You come in, you can have an MBA, but you get dropped in an industry you've never worked in before; there's stuff to learn. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** That's absolutely true, but I am willing to bet that this woman said what she said based on gender. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I agree. |
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