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[3201.20 --> 3206.40] how it's supposed to operate and knowing how cpus work is then very very helpful when you are doing |
[3206.40 --> 3212.56] reverse engineering and then you have other games which are from a developer which is called zaktronics |
[3212.56 --> 3218.64] and these are like weird puzzle games that are really related to computing problems one of them |
[3218.64 --> 3224.24] is called a tis 100 you have another one called hexapunks and they are dubbed the assembly games you |
[3224.24 --> 3229.76] didn't know you wanted and it's actually a very apt description because these games have their own |
[3229.76 --> 3233.84] weird and limited assembly language and you have to solve puzzles with them like you have to program |
[3233.84 --> 3238.40] some sort of small machine in order to make it do stuff and you have to do this with assembly and |
[3238.40 --> 3244.88] it forces you to use the language which uh like has the very super good desired side effect of making |
[3244.88 --> 3250.56] you learn how cpus work when we are making you more comfortable with handling those uh weird instructions |
[3250.56 --> 3256.00] by yourself so these would be my recommendations for people that want to get into it yeah i'd not |
[3256.00 --> 3261.44] thought about games that sounds i'm gonna check those out later actually yeah actually if you are |
[3261.44 --> 3266.48] working from a university or if you are a teacher somewhere zaktronics i think the company maybe |
[3266.48 --> 3271.04] closed doors not too long ago i think they they are done making games or they move on to something |
[3271.04 --> 3277.36] else but they used to have a very extensive education program where if you are a university and you are |
[3277.36 --> 3282.16] doing a i don't know some computer science degree or something like this you could just send them an |
[3282.16 --> 3287.04] email and they would give you access to all their games you know for free basically and you could use |
[3287.04 --> 3292.08] them to teach or as teaching aids and i think it's uh like amazing of them and also the games are |
[3292.08 --> 3297.44] really really really fun i think so they are fun if you like assembly which i think is a pretty biased |
[3297.44 --> 3302.48] statement on my end but i guess still do recommend them a lot of the things you said they're like a |
[3302.96 --> 3309.84] cheat sheet for reverse engineering and lots of useful information and i have so many more |
[3309.84 --> 3314.80] questions about specific things about go and reverse engineering we might have to do another episode |
[3314.80 --> 3320.72] about this because we are running out of time sure well i can come back whenever you like we will |
[3320.72 --> 3325.20] prepare our questions we'll ask you about things like generics i will have to prepare those questions |
[3325.20 --> 3341.12] as well i guess but no problem now it's time for an unpopular opinion |
[3349.04 --> 3354.32] so ivan what is your unpopular opinion for us oh my god i totally forgot about that oh it's okay |
[3355.52 --> 3360.72] the good thing is i do have many unpopular opinions so i'm going to like give you things on the top of |
[3360.72 --> 3365.44] my head and you can tell me what you want to know more about for instance i think that cyberspace is |
[3365.44 --> 3372.56] never going to be regulated i think that nfts are a scam i think that there is no political will to |
[3372.56 --> 3378.24] limit the sale of cyber offense tools that kind of stuff yeah that's i do have a lot of unpopular |
[3378.24 --> 3381.76] political opinions as well but i don't think i want to inflict that onto you you've been very nice to me |
[3381.76 --> 3390.08] what do you think about the european rule about the usbc until standardizing usbs oh i'm very very |
[3390.08 --> 3398.08] happy about it i know it's uh some pressure put on some device constructors but i've been carrying |
[3398.08 --> 3403.28] lots of different chargers for years and i'm super annoyed about this and you know knowing that we are |
[3403.28 --> 3409.12] going to switch to like a single usbc for every single device makes me extremely extremely happy |
[3409.68 --> 3414.08] another unpopular opinion i have which you can add to the list is that i'm not really a big fan of |
[3414.08 --> 3419.36] apple like not at all i don't like their ecosystem and i'm not going to get into this but one of the |
[3419.36 --> 3423.20] things i don't like is that people have to pay 40 bucks for like new chargers and they change |
[3423.20 --> 3427.68] chargers every time they release a new product and i'm very happy that this is going to cut off this |
[3427.68 --> 3431.60] revenue stream for them because i think this should have never existed in the first place what do you |
[3431.60 --> 3435.76] think about all the like the walled systems you know like the google play store and the apple store |
[3435.76 --> 3440.32] and the amazon store like from a securities perspective they say it's safer do you agree |
[3440.32 --> 3446.32] with that do you yeah this is a very good question i do have very ambiguous feelings about them i do |
[3446.32 --> 3451.52] believe that for the security on the security perspective it's kind of a good thing in the sense |
[3451.52 --> 3456.48] that yeah it's another one of those safeguards that prevent people from doing stupid stuff with their |
[3456.48 --> 3463.60] devices and you know having to go to some friends places or more specifically friends of my mom's |
[3463.60 --> 3468.24] places to debug computers and you know uninstall malware and fix the printers then i'm very happy |
[3468.24 --> 3474.16] when you there are protections that prevent them from doing that kind of stuff then again they are not a |
[3474.16 --> 3480.48] perfect solution either i think the apple store in terms of security is uh like pretty good the google |
[3480.48 --> 3485.92] store the play store has a bad track record when it comes to hosting malware i'm not saying that they're |
[3485.92 --> 3490.48] doing a bad job i think it's a very very difficult job but the fact of the matter is there are a |
[3490.48 --> 3497.60] number of apps on the google play store that turned out to maybe not be total malware but some of them |
[3497.60 --> 3504.08] are but a lot of them are just you know there to collect personal data or that kind of stuff so i think |
[3504.08 --> 3510.64] a better way of securing those devices is not to control the app stores i think created protections on |
[3510.64 --> 3516.96] the device level is probably where i would um work so when you look at both ios and android they are |
[3516.96 --> 3521.60] doing i think a very good job of or have been doing a very good job at least in the past years of making |
[3521.60 --> 3526.56] sure that apps will not be able to access anything just because the user clicked okay on a way back |
[3526.56 --> 3532.24] when when they installed the app so i think making sure that all those personal information cannot be |
[3532.24 --> 3539.84] pulled so easily is going to be like a much better way than you know trying to police all the stores and |
[3539.84 --> 3544.24] look at all those thousands of apps that are updated there every day which i do not think |
[3544.24 --> 3551.84] that you can realistically ensure that they are always going to be safe but overall the other issue |
[3551.84 --> 3556.40] with world gardens which is okay maybe they do provide something with security but also i feel |
[3556.40 --> 3562.32] like they take away some agency from me as a user right i really like to own the devices that i use |
[3562.88 --> 3567.52] and having some restrictions that tell me oh you cannot install this app because google says you can't |
[3567.52 --> 3572.40] or you can uninstall this app also because google says you can't is something that tends to make me |
[3572.40 --> 3579.20] extremely extremely angry so you mentioned a lot of unpopular opinions yes the way the twitter works |
[3579.20 --> 3586.32] for our podcast is that we take an unpopular opinion and then we make a vote so there's a poll do |
[3586.32 --> 3590.96] people agree with you or not and then there's a hall of fame for unpopular opinions and for popular |
[3590.96 --> 3598.00] unpopular opinions so you listed several which one would you like us to vote on so if i wanted to win |
[3598.00 --> 3602.48] the contest i guess i would go with the nft one because i know that this is something very divisive |
[3602.48 --> 3607.76] and i think that a lot of the audience that you are reaching is going to be probably i'm not going |
[3607.76 --> 3611.92] to say that they are necessarily going to be on my side but i think they're going to be on the a side |
[3611.92 --> 3616.72] but i think a much more interesting question that i would be actually interested in having the uh the |
[3616.72 --> 3621.52] community's opinion about is the one about regulation like i do believe that cyberspace is |
[3621.52 --> 3625.92] never going to be regulated and maybe i need to say a bit more about this one right so that people |
[3625.92 --> 3631.12] can figure out for themselves my opinion on this is that you know we have a number of high-level |
[3631.12 --> 3636.88] discussions taking place at the un about you know acceptable norms for behavior in the cyberspace etc and |
[3636.88 --> 3641.68] you have all those discussions between states where they talk with each other and they are like okay |
[3641.68 --> 3646.40] what type of offensive operations are legitimate like for instance espionage is okay but destructive |
[3646.40 --> 3651.28] attacks are not okay i mean i'm not saying this is right i'm just saying this is probably the kind |
[3651.28 --> 3655.68] of discussions that they are having and you know we may have differing opinions on what types of |
[3655.68 --> 3660.40] attacks are okay and what types are not or even if attacks are okay at all it doesn't matter the thing |
[3660.40 --> 3667.68] is i do believe that i don't think that we will ever reach an agreement there because well states |
[3667.68 --> 3675.52] do not have an incentive to regulate cyber offense i think that they have an interest in having a way or |
[3675.52 --> 3679.92] having some kind of framework that allows them to still conduct operations because when they |
[3679.92 --> 3684.96] conduct operations they know what they are winning right they have intelligent services that gather |
[3684.96 --> 3688.88] data they collect it through cyber means they take it back and so they know that they are able to |
[3688.88 --> 3693.68] achieve certain results because they have obtained specific information and they can quantify that |
[3694.32 --> 3701.28] on the other end when you look at the costs of cyber offense which means all your companies in |
[3701.28 --> 3705.20] your country that have been breached because there are no no such norms it's something that's super |
[3705.20 --> 3710.24] hard to quantify you can never know that you know you lost some contract overseas to sell planes or to |
[3710.88 --> 3715.76] something else because the cyber means because it's very likely that nobody knows that the breach even |
[3715.76 --> 3722.08] happened in the first place so the thing is you look at the balance of risk reward for the decision |
[3722.08 --> 3727.68] makers and they see this is what we win with cyber offense which is a lot and what they lose is |
[3727.68 --> 3732.48] actually it's painless and also they have no idea what it is and so overall i think that all those |
[3732.48 --> 3737.44] discussions that are taking place that are saying okay we need to make a safer internet blah blah blah |
[3737.44 --> 3742.72] are actually possibly being conducted in bad faith because there is no political will to actually stop |
[3742.72 --> 3747.44] doing this kind of stuff this would be my unpopular opinion especially in the diplomatic circles |
[3747.44 --> 3753.52] all right you will be tagged and we will be following the results okay no i'm interested to see the results |
[3753.52 --> 3758.64] on this one yeah it's an interesting way to think about it yeah i want to know as well cool thank |
[3758.64 --> 3762.56] you very much for sharing your knowledge your thoughts and your opinions with us this was |
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