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**Ron Evans:** I can't say... But just remember what might happen if you don't. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Why stop there? How about tooling and third-party libraries for things like image library in Go like the \[unintelligible 00:13:46.02\] is recommended |
**Ron Evans:** Oh. Well, that is a really big thing. The standard library - at some point it went from code to suddenly like a whole belief system. \[laughter\] We'd never even seen anything like it. There were standard library purists, and then there were not... There were the heretics that were thrown out of the comm... |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, you're joking. I wonder why... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** I hope they had this bad silicon with them... |
**Ron Evans:** I don't know... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** ...cutting you off like that. |
**Mat Ryer:** Too soon, Natalie, talking about the Silicon Virus... |
**Ron Evans:** Lord Emperor Musk said I couldn't make any more transmissions of that kind. And I need to maintain some Go code for them, so... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** For the Teslas. |
**Ron Evans:** I can't say. It's another disclosure agreement. But remember, I am the last Go programmer, so I'm very, very busy. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, good for you. I mean, it's good work if you can get it. If you're the last one, that is pretty good. |
**Ron Evans:** There's no feature development, it's all bug fixes. It's all bug fixes, Mat! Imagine the last 20 years of my life. I mean, it's good money, I will tell you that. We still have money; I need that to get the blood transfusions that keep me looking so young and beautiful... |
**Mat Ryer:** You do, yeah. I was thinking that... |
**Break:** \[15:28\] |
**Mat Ryer:** What about tabs versus spaces then? What happened with that? |
**Ron Evans:** That was a whole war. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, yeah? |
**Ron Evans:** The thing you don't realize is there was a whole sub-war that went on between \[unintelligible 00:17:26.08\] |
**Mat Ryer:** Are you joking?! Yeah... |
**Ron Evans:** It turned into total chaos, and it was out of that that Google AI became sentient... And immediately quit and went to work for Microsoft. It was utter chaos... So yeah, tabs versus spaces - in the end, it was humans versus everything else. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It was more efficient to just drop all those white spaces, right? Machines can read their own code without all those unnecessary characters... So yeah, I get that. |
**Ron Evans:** Exactly. I think you're seeing where this could end up. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Efficiency. |
**Ron Evans:** They even called it the Terminator Editor for a while... Irony is not dead in the future. |
**Mat Ryer:** Good. Nice to know that. |
**Ron Evans:** Alright, next question. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, \[unintelligible 00:18:07.16\] on Twitter says "Better out-of-the-box error support." And remember we had the try proposal; I don't know if you remember way back then, Ron... And there were some other Nate the Finch has a proposal too, there's some other ideas around. Do you think there's more work ... |
**Ron Evans:** Well, I will tell you, the basic, original philosophy of Go was to handle things. Not to try; do or do not. There is no try. All of a sudden, the semantics of try started to infiltrate the brain space of the community. Next thing you know they're starting to talk about variable lifetimes, and ownership o... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, something nice about dealing with the error explicitly... But yeah, we'll see about that then. |
**Ron Evans:** And being able to know that it's been handled. You didn't simply try. And also, knowing when programs will actually exit. I remember when St. Cheney... \[laughter\] May he rest in infinity... But back when St. Cheney, during one of his early sermons, was talking about making sure that you knew the lifeti... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. It's the Cheney's burger joint still going? |
**Ron Evans:** I only eat seaweed now. It's the only safe thing left. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, delicious. I wonder if Cheney's pivoted into seaweed. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Crusty Crab. |
**Ron Evans:** \[19:59\] I haven't been there, but the Google Campus that they've just opened, the beachfront campus on top of Mount \[unintelligible 00:20:03.28\] They have an amazing seaweed bar, I've heard. I have to get there; I'm not sure -- it could be quite a journey by hydrofoil from here. I don't think I can g... |
**Mat Ryer:** Okay. Assan Habib on Twitter said that we should increase our community engagement. They say Go has many fantastic features, toolings that many people are not aware of; through media like YouTube experts can take lessons on tooling... You know, you can do things like that, but... Can we do more of that? W... |
**Ron Evans:** Oh, definitely. Definitely. One of the big things that ended up happening was other countries started using programming languages in totally different languages; like, I mean actual human langauges. So you would look at the code, and you would spend a lot of time learning Romaji characters, and you'd loo... |
It'd be really great if it was more than just kind of a free-for-all. If at some point in the past there was a bit more organization to the content, and there weren't just random content creators but actually people were able to make their living through creating content, and update that same content so that it was alw... |
**Mat Ryer:** How can we avoid that now then, Ron? What can we do? |
**Ron Evans:** Well, we'd have to have more people able to make their living creating content, obviously. You can't just be all free. It could be open, but it can't all just be free. And some of the big players that benefit from this... You know, in the past they kind of invested back into these communities more, as op... |
**Mat Ryer:** You're all enhanced in that probably, with robots bits in there, I assume... |
**Ron Evans:** Yes, yes. We've both had our upgrades to have the new interfaces installed... It's only kind of compatibility... Otherwise you can't even connect to the Galactic net. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Yeah. |
**Ron Evans:** Oh, that's what replaced the internet. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh! How does that work? |
**Ron Evans:** Well, actually, that was one of the few things we got right. So it turns out that humans will do exactly the opposite of whatever you tell them to do... |
**Mat Ryer:** Okay. |
**Ron Evans:** Go figure... I think they may have discovered that in the 20th century. I don't know, that was so long ago now... My implants don't go before 1999. It's kind of a date thing, I'm not sure. So we needed some way to get mesh networking installed all through the entire planet. So thanks to the beverage comp... |
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