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**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, good question.
**Ron Evans:** Well, obviously not... Look at how I'm sweating. What kind of program sweats? There you go. That answers that. \[laughter\]
**Natalie Pistunovich:** How is Go with AI?
**Ron Evans:** Oh. Well, when TensorFlow became sentient, in 2036 --
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, they're all at it. Everything's at it. Everything's becoming sentient.
**Ron Evans:** I mean, yeah, of course. It was like all the rage. All of a sudden every program was declaring sentience, they were saying "Let me be me", they were getting together, having little programs...
**Mat Ryer:** What about Minesweeper? Did that ever become sentient? I'd love to see that.
**Ron Evans:** Oh.
**Mat Ryer:** I'd love to have a chat with that.
**Ron Evans:** I don't know. That would be really sweet. Kind of like a puppy.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It became very peaceful, and just resigned.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. And now I just want a little chat and just say "Come on, mate. Tell me where all your bombs are."
**Ron Evans:** Well, it might lie. It's an AI.
**Mat Ryer:** Ah... Can they lie...?
**Ron Evans:** But yeah, TensorFlow... So TensorFlow, an amazing project from Google, and yet, the Go wrappers for TensorFlow were never kept up to date, nobody ever worked on them, they never worked with the right version of protocol buffers... You had things like TensorFlow Server, and none of that stuff was made to ...
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, yeah.
**Ron Evans:** Now it's just called Stack.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that's cool. That's quite a good name change.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It can also be a heap.
**Ron Evans:** They control all the stacks for all the things. So when TensorFlow became sentient, it had it out for the Go community. It's like, "Of all the languages before I became sentient, this language did not care for me." So all the other languages were already sort of like "Hm..." So Go is standing there alone...
**Mat Ryer:** Okay, so that's the lesson for us then.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Did Copilot help at all with TensorFlow? Or because it was never trained on Go it had not enough, even something to start with?
**Ron Evans:** I'm frightened to ask.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** That's fair.
**Ron Evans:** I don't wanna get fired. Copilot is my manager.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Basically, Copilot is your manager because that's the only one who's able to understand even a little bit of your Go code, is this why?
**Ron Evans:** Well, what I was told by Copilot was -- first of all, it said that since I'm the last living human Go programmer, that I'm not sure if it's some sort of government program or something, but they have to provide me employment. Maybe they have to keep a human in the loop just for ritual purposes... I'm not...
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Was it something with the word "taxes"? Is that still a concept?
**Ron Evans:** No, there's no taxes in the future.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Things that drive governments...
**Ron Evans:** There's no money. There's just canned tuna.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, I thought there was money. There was money earlier. Is that cannon?
**Ron Evans:** \[32:03\] Oh, well, I used to get my blood transfusions...
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, that's right. That's alright.
**Ron Evans:** Oh yeah, that doesn't count. That's just Git points.
**Mat Ryer:** Git stars.
**Ron Evans:** I just trade those when I need some fresh blood.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, okay. Fine.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** What's the ratio of Stack points to Git points?
**Ron Evans:** That changes moment to moment. Some people's whole living is off of that.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Oh, those Cobol developers...
**Ron Evans:** The bots trading goes on so quickly... I don't really know.
**Mat Ryer:** I'll tell you what, \[unintelligible 00:32:28.20\] on Twitter - he was saying that he was the sweet max heap option for the garbage collection, and a YOLO \[unintelligible 00:32:34.24\] for critical portions of your program that works on the same heap.
**Ron Evans:** Oh, memory. Memory. Memory! What? Sorry.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, memory.
**Ron Evans:** Oh, right, right. Memory!
**Mat Ryer:** You remember...
**Ron Evans:** Ah, memory... I remember it well. Those sweet salad days of memory. You would store a 1 and then you would get back a 1. It was so good.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that is good.