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**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that's amazing. |
**Ron Evans:** Yeah. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It's a great use of metal. |
**Ron Evans:** Yeah. It was one of the few things they got right. They were calling it the can bus for a while... |
**Mat Ryer:** Clever. |
**Ron Evans:** But that already existed, and there was some -- back when we had cars, people were kind of arguing about that... So then they changed it to call it the canned system. The trademark of that was available. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It sounds like the things that drive that are smaller devices like mobile and IoT things... Paul Greenberg here is asking if the facilities for developing mobile and IoT things with Go are supported better. Can we hope this is a thing now? |
**Ron Evans:** That was a really sad thing... You had this company Google that had Android, and that was the operating system that everybody was using. Not everybody, but lots and lots of people were using Android on all these devices, and it came from this company... Google. They used to exist back in those days... |
**Mat Ryer:** \[24:15\] Yeah, I remember them. |
**Ron Evans:** Yeah, Google was really something. They had Android, and they had Go, and yet nobody at Google ever actually worked on the Android stuff for Go. And the people who did try to work on it, they were just sort of like "Yeah, you know, we should use the new language, Kotlin..." So the people who actually wan... |
**Mat Ryer:** The big Tiny... |
**Ron Evans:** Literally, the big one. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** The big TinyGo. |
**Ron Evans:** No, the actual big one. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** The Big Go. |
**Ron Evans:** In 2041 the big one finally hit California, and it just happened to be during Google I/O. So that did not help, that took out quite a lot of the Go developers all in the tidal waves and liquefaction zones that occurred. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Wait, Go made it to Google I/O for more than one talk? |
**Ron Evans:** That was it. After the big earthquake there was nobody left. |
**Mat Ryer:** That's what caused it. |
**Ron Evans:** And maybe that helped me become the last Go programmer. I don't know. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** So what do we need to do now to make this right? |
**Ron Evans:** Well, we need to encourage -- you know, let a thousand flowers bloom. If in the past all of these cool projects had more people paying attention to them and more people contributing, and big companies actually ponying up to pay some of their R&D budgets to help some of these projects along, then maybe th... |
**Mat Ryer:** Perfectly-timed glitch there. He'll be back in a minute when the timeline aligns... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Those galactic nets, I'm telling you... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, it's the cans. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Mm-hm. |
**Mat Ryer:** It's a terrible idea. \[laughs\] |
**Ron Evans:** They might be onto me. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. \[laughs\] |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Everytime somebody's opening a can, this is what's happening. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. It caused a glitch. |
**Ron Evans:** Is this thing on? Hello!? |
**Mat Ryer:** They're not onto you, Ron. They're not onto you. |
**Ron Evans:** Hello! Hello? |
**Mat Ryer:** We hear you, we hear you. |
**Ron Evans:** Okay, okay. |
**Mat Ryer:** Blake Bork |
**Ron Evans:** But yeah, if we've had a lot more software support for this kind of industrial side of computing from Go... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Oh, somebody's really into cans right now, opening all of them at once. |
**Ron Evans:** Yeah. All of the industrial computing that was being done in C back in the 20th century - still being done in C here in the latter half of the 21st century... It's really, really sad. And it could have been Go. It could have been Go. All of the people that would have survived their parachutes opening cor... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. And as long as you don't defer that in the code. |
**Ron Evans:** The anti-gravity belts would have had Go installed. |
**Mat Ryer:** Ron, Blake Bork on Twitter - one of the things that they think we should focus on a bit is generic thread-safe containers like the sync.Map, other types like that that are -- you know, hard problems that would be nice to get solved, especially if we have generics to kind of allow them to work with any typ... |
**Ron Evans:** Oh. Well, if Google had not disbanded the actual official Go development team in 2023 and stopped working on it, I'm sure they would have completed their generics implementation and all that type safety. Basically, everyone just said "Oh, we should start using Rust", and then after they used Rust, they'r... |
**Mat Ryer:** \[28:19\] Oh, yeah. That sounds amazing though, to be fair... Okay, so you think then that we wanna keep with the Go team, we want to see the Go team carry on. You think that's what we should do then instead. |
**Ron Evans:** Oh, they never should have disbanded the project. They should have kept the band together. |
**Mat Ryer:** Okay, so -- |
**Ron Evans:** Of course, some of them did survive the big one as a result, just because they were in other parts of the world, but I don't think they were wanting to work on Go anymore after that. |
**Mat Ryer:** Good. Okay. Well, I'm glad to know that at least some of our friends survived it... |
**Ron Evans:** Well, somebody asked me "How do you know you're not just like a program running on some machine in the future?" |
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