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[2152.70 --> 2152.90] Yeah.
[2152.94 --> 2156.06] And I think the value of a fresh perspective
[2156.06 --> 2158.60] also is in like challenging assumptions.
[2158.84 --> 2160.44] So I know as a,
[2160.88 --> 2161.86] like I'm a staff engineer,
[2161.86 --> 2163.34] but there are definitely things that,
[2163.82 --> 2164.44] to your point, Angelica,
[2164.54 --> 2165.54] like I've gotten used to
[2165.54 --> 2166.96] or I've gotten into the habit of.
[2166.96 --> 2169.92] And sometimes that does lead me to make assumptions.
[2169.92 --> 2171.98] And I, I work to check myself,
[2172.06 --> 2175.00] but having teammates being able to ask questions
[2175.00 --> 2175.90] and check assumptions,
[2175.90 --> 2179.30] I think leads to really valuable conversation
[2179.30 --> 2182.34] because maybe that will lead us in a different direction.
[2182.34 --> 2185.28] Maybe I can explain more about something
[2185.28 --> 2186.96] that I've done in my work.
[2187.32 --> 2189.62] But I actually think when I'm approaching reviews
[2189.62 --> 2192.04] and when I'm asking to be reviewed,
[2192.38 --> 2196.12] I think of it more as like the subject matter expertise
[2196.12 --> 2197.24] in a code base
[2197.24 --> 2199.96] because I recently switched teams
[2199.96 --> 2201.84] and I'm coming onto my new team
[2201.84 --> 2202.64] and I have a lot,
[2203.00 --> 2205.10] I have a lot of wealth of knowledge
[2205.10 --> 2206.12] in terms of architecture
[2206.12 --> 2208.32] and some of the things that I'm bringing from my past team,
[2208.50 --> 2211.40] but I'm actually learning some of these languages
[2211.40 --> 2213.14] for the first time.
[2213.44 --> 2217.36] And so even though I have a big picture idea
[2217.36 --> 2218.30] around our architecture
[2218.30 --> 2220.18] and I'm doing a lot of things
[2220.18 --> 2221.88] as the tech lead for my team,
[2222.12 --> 2224.14] some of my teammates actually know these languages
[2224.14 --> 2226.04] and the language patterns
[2226.04 --> 2229.42] that come with these repos better than I do.
[2230.12 --> 2232.64] And so I actively look for them
[2232.64 --> 2235.98] to be critical of the code that I'm putting forth
[2235.98 --> 2238.00] because that allows me to learn
[2238.00 --> 2241.82] the same way that if they were putting in a PR in Python
[2241.82 --> 2243.40] and I'm more expert in Python,
[2243.40 --> 2245.60] I would want to teach them some of the things
[2245.60 --> 2247.84] that I have picked up about Python along the way.
[2247.84 --> 2249.74] So I think it's,
[2249.88 --> 2251.52] I actually think this is an area
[2251.52 --> 2252.76] where I would,
[2253.10 --> 2254.42] I hope leveling doesn't matter.
[2254.58 --> 2256.84] It's more about like the subject matter expertise
[2256.84 --> 2257.38] in a repo
[2257.38 --> 2259.74] and like helping that person
[2259.74 --> 2261.66] level up their expertise
[2261.66 --> 2263.14] like a little bit further
[2263.14 --> 2266.30] and anybody can help anybody else
[2266.30 --> 2268.06] level up their expertise more.
[2268.62 --> 2270.72] It's interesting to hear from me all the answers.
[2270.94 --> 2273.00] I guess you're all US-based
[2273.00 --> 2276.64] and you all mostly work with American colleagues.
[2277.00 --> 2278.38] Is my assumption correct?
[2278.46 --> 2281.60] Or would you say your teams are kind of with also,
[2281.76 --> 2282.54] or you get to work,
[2282.68 --> 2284.36] let's say with people from other people
[2284.36 --> 2285.26] who are not Americans?
[2285.88 --> 2289.84] Yeah, I've worked with like non-native English speakers
[2289.84 --> 2291.38] before on my current team.
[2291.46 --> 2293.42] I'm working with mostly native English,
[2293.50 --> 2295.22] all the engineers are native English speakers,
[2295.22 --> 2296.98] but one of my teammates even
[2296.98 --> 2300.16] was recently working with some of our engineering teams
[2300.16 --> 2302.70] that are working out of other countries as well.
[2303.14 --> 2305.36] So we have some international work.
[2306.16 --> 2307.38] Would you say your experience
[2307.38 --> 2310.00] of feeling comfortable to correct
[2310.00 --> 2311.00] and to be corrected
[2311.00 --> 2313.08] is the same as with people
[2313.08 --> 2314.38] from the same background as you?
[2314.80 --> 2317.44] Or is it different in any way
[2317.44 --> 2319.64] when you like review the code
[2319.64 --> 2320.92] or get reviewed by people
[2320.92 --> 2322.84] who are wherever they're based,
[2322.92 --> 2324.80] like just grew up in other places?
[2325.56 --> 2326.72] Yeah, that's a really great question.
[2327.42 --> 2328.62] I definitely think that
[2328.62 --> 2331.66] I have an easier time giving grace
[2331.66 --> 2333.10] to somebody who's giving me a review
[2333.10 --> 2334.84] if English isn't their first language
[2334.84 --> 2339.24] because tone is a hard thing to pick up.
[2339.76 --> 2341.68] So both I've worked with
[2341.68 --> 2344.08] whether like English is not their first language
[2344.08 --> 2348.22] or whether somebody has issues with tone
[2348.22 --> 2349.18] for some other reason,
[2349.36 --> 2351.86] like some kind of like mental like illness
[2351.86 --> 2354.70] or disability is probably the better term
[2354.70 --> 2357.18] for thinking through
[2357.18 --> 2358.94] like how something is going to be perceived.
[2359.06 --> 2360.08] I've worked with colleagues
[2360.08 --> 2361.88] who are like on the spectrum
[2361.88 --> 2363.24] and that's not always like something
[2363.24 --> 2365.92] that they have an easy time interpreting
[2365.92 --> 2368.34] and figuring out how tone is going to come across.
[2368.84 --> 2370.10] So in those situations,