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**Natalie Pistunovich:** So this was expected to be something like a 10% variance, and it ended up being 55%. |
**Mat Ryer:** Right. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** And this translates to a lot of money that is being lost, specifically in the world of insurance agents. And you made a very good point, Mat, saying that people learn from each other, and then compare and then kind of find the center, because this is exactly what was recommended there in the bo... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. And honestly, I think that sounds great, because you often see a junior person, their numbers will be higher often, because -- or sometimes lower, but they'll often be slightly away from where the sort of mean meet... Because they don't have the same context, they don't have the same information. |
It's most interesting when someone's way off as an outlier, and it's the conversation you have about that work that's the really valuable bit in any estimation sessions for me. So you sit around all together and say, "Okay, we're gonna add this functionality. I suppose we'll use that integration, we'll do that thing, w... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** You definitely see a wider image. |
**Mat Ryer:** So my unpopular opinion would be keep estimation sessions -- |
**Jerod Santo:** Hold on, we've gotta play the music... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Wait, wait...! |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, yeah. Should we do it? |
**Jingle:** \[58:02\] to \[58:19\] |
**Mat Ryer:** My unpopular opinion is we should keep estimation sessions, but throw away the estimations. The sessions themselves are great. They're so useful to talk through all the work, get all our ideas out, see where the interest lies, of who's going to maybe do the work, but the estimations are useless, pretty mu... |
**Jerod Santo:** That sounds brilliant to me. I like the way you framed that, and I think it's a smart idea. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** So I think this is not an unpopular opinion, but just a good idea. |
**Mat Ryer:** Well, I sure hope it makes it to the Twitter feed... \[laughter\] |
**Jerod Santo:** We'll see. |
**Mat Ryer:** We will see, because I'll be keeping an eye on it like a hawk. |
**Jerod Santo:** Have you done an unpopular opinion before? Or is this your first one ever? Because it's gonna be wildly popular, by the way... |
**Mat Ryer:** I've done one, and I've regretted it ever since. And I knew I would. So I knew before I said it that was going to regret it. I then said it, thinking "I'm gonna regret this" and then later now, I regret saying it. Do you know what I mean? |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] I do. That's utter. They call that utter. |
**Mat Ryer:** Utter. |
**Jerod Santo:** What about this one? Do you regret saying this one? |
**Mat Ryer:** No, I think this is alright, this one. |
**Jerod Santo:** That's because it's gonna be popular. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It might not be unpopular, but still a good opinion. |
**Mat Ryer:** We'll see what people say on Twitter. We'll let them decide really. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, they're brutal out there. |
**Mat Ryer:** They'll are. They tell the truth when you ask them a question. They sometimes tell you the truth in a DM that you've not asked for, as well. It can happen. I've had that once or twice. |
**Jerod Santo:** Natalie? |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** I love doing Twitter polls. I also have an unpopular opinion. Books that are meant to teach people new concepts, but are not technical ones, should be shorter. I find that there's many interesting things to read out there, so I've been trying to read the book about growth mindset, and the idea ... |
**Mat Ryer:** I like this. I don't want to advertise, I don't get anything for this... Let me just sign up so I can do a referral program, but there's a thing called Blinkist, which essentially is this... The idea is it takes a book and distills it down to 15 minutes, the key concepts, the most important thing... The i... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** But do they...? |
**Mat Ryer:** Well, that's what they do. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Do you want to pad that, and then somebody goes and summarizes that for you? |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Just make it short. Make it to the point. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Make it a booklet. |
**Jerod Santo:** Well, then it's a blog post, right? They can't sell you that blog post. |
**Mat Ryer:** Would you pay 40 pounds for a blog post, if you had pounds? |
**Jerod Santo:** Exactly. |
**Mat Ryer:** No one else has pounds on here apart from me... |
**Jerod Santo:** I'd happily lose 40 pounds for a blog post... \[laughter\] |
**Mat Ryer:** It's a new exercise-based -- |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** I'm listening to books in an Audible; it's usually 10 Euros per book, it's not 40. |
**Mat Ryer:** That's quite \[01:01:35.07\] |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It's an almost flat rate. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, I see. So for all books. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Practically, it's very hard to find a book that is not 10 Euros. |
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