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**Jerod Santo:** But they're not all the same. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh that's not $10 per book then, that's $10 for the entire library of the Earth, which is a pretty good deal. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** No, no. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[01:01:54.04\] She still has to pick the book. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It's per book. |
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, it's still per book. Okay, I'm back to it being a bad deal. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** I mean, maybe there's different programs, I don't know. |
**Jerod Santo:** Aren't there some books that are better than others, though? |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Yeah, I don't know... I have yet to come across a book that is not 10 Euros. Sometimes they have sales that something is cheaper or for free, but most of the books you find there is like one unit of credit, and that costs you 10 Euros. |
**Mat Ryer:** I don't want to be a salesperson for that company, but surely there's already a subscription program where you can just unlock unlimited. |
**Jerod Santo:** Blinkist? |
**Mat Ryer:** I'm not saying that one again, but the Audible -- audio... I nearly said the brand name. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Audible. |
**Mat Ryer:** Don't say the brand name! |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, no... |
**Mat Ryer:** We've advertised them now for free... Jerod's gonna be livid. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** You said Blinkist... |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. But I also said I don't want to advertise them... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** \[laughs\] |
**Mat Ryer:** ...because Jerod \[01:02:39.14\] |
**Jerod Santo:** They pay good money to advertise on podcasts, just not ours. So go ahead, say their name. |
**Mat Ryer:** So we've given it for free. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, well... |
**Mat Ryer:** It devalues it, doesn't it? |
**Jerod Santo:** We already ripped into Jeff Bezos earlier... |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** It's a Berlin-based company. |
**Jerod Santo:** Audible is? |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Blinkist. |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, Blinkist. Now we're saying both their brand names over and over again. |
**Mat Ryer:** Have you heard of that company before then, Natalie? That app? |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** I know this great podcast... \[laughs\] It's called Go Time. |
**Mat Ryer:** It was the home where the great invention of Jerod's where it was -- what was it? You would lose weight by reading a blog post, or in order to unlock the blog post you have to hit certain exercise goals? Something like that. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, I think that would be motivating. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. Fit Blog, or something. |
**Jerod Santo:** You know, it's like a paywall, but it's more of like a fit wall. |
**Mat Ryer:** It's a pain wall. Fit Wall, that's good. Fit Wall is the name of it! |
**Jerod Santo:** Pain wall - actually, I like that. |
**Mat Ryer:** No, Fit Wall. Fit Wall, that's the name. Get the .com, quick. |
**Jerod Santo:** We're gonna solve the obesity epidemic. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Remember where you heard this first. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yes. |
**Mat Ryer:** Changelog doesn't own this idea just because we've said it on this. How does that work legally? |
**Jerod Santo:** Fit Wall? Yes. All your IP are belong to us. |
**Mat Ryer:** Well, I'm gonna see if I can get the domain name... I can't...! |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Jerod, is this your unpopular opinion? |
**Jerod Santo:** No, I have one. I have one though. |
**Natalie Pistunovich:** You have one. Please share. |
**Jerod Santo:** The last time I was on the show we had a little debate around the terms we software people use to describe ourselves. Coder, programmer, developer, engineer... |
**Mat Ryer:** Cool dude. |
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