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[3321.42 --> 3323.40] chris as you say big
[3323.40 --> 3325.12] companies are going to buy
[3325.12 --> 3326.58] us towards doing the right
[3326.58 --> 3328.20] thing for the consumer right
[3328.20 --> 3329.80] like microsoft has done a
[3329.80 --> 3330.76] lot of amazing things for the
[3330.76 --> 3331.70] open source community which
[3331.70 --> 3334.20] 1997 me is like a gassed that
[3334.20 --> 3335.40] I'm saying that out loud but
[3335.40 --> 3336.76] like but at the end of the
[3336.76 --> 3338.40] day I mean when that comes
[3338.40 --> 3340.76] down to push or shove the
[3340.76 --> 3341.72] decisions are often going to
[3341.72 --> 3342.56] be made in favor of the
[3342.56 --> 3344.32] consumer and we do need to
[3344.32 --> 3345.50] have some of those honest
[3345.50 --> 3346.70] discussions about what that
[3346.70 --> 3347.82] looks like because it's not
[3347.82 --> 3349.94] because Natalie that to get
[3349.94 --> 3350.72] back to some of what you're
[3350.72 --> 3352.24] saying and the overall theme
[3352.24 --> 3354.22] of the show legal ownership
[3354.22 --> 3356.72] is only part of the story here
[3356.72 --> 3357.82] cultural ownership
[3357.82 --> 3360.32] responsibility entitlement all
[3360.32 --> 3362.40] these things are related to
[3362.40 --> 3365.84] but cannot be solved just by
[3365.84 --> 3367.44] our legal systems and I think
[3367.44 --> 3369.24] maybe that's my one regret I
[3369.24 --> 3370.76] have very very few regrets
[3370.76 --> 3371.76] about going to law school it's
[3371.76 --> 3372.78] a lot of fun I met a lot of
[3372.78 --> 3374.72] great people but people often
[3374.72 --> 3376.70] come to me seeking legal
[3376.70 --> 3377.88] solutions for what are
[3377.88 --> 3380.32] ultimately cultural problems and
[3380.32 --> 3383.04] I can only do the best lawyers
[3383.04 --> 3384.50] know how to straddle that gap
[3384.50 --> 3386.60] right and I like to think that
[3386.60 --> 3388.06] that is certainly my biggest
[3388.06 --> 3389.78] strength as a lawyer especially
[3389.78 --> 3392.06] in this space is how to straddle
[3392.06 --> 3394.02] that gap but it's not easy
[3394.02 --> 3395.10] which actually by the way
[3395.10 --> 3397.02] reminds me side project fun
[3397.02 --> 3398.56] project and then we'll we'll
[3398.56 --> 3399.42] leave it I know we're running
[3399.42 --> 3401.96] out of time here I am writing a
[3401.96 --> 3404.32] newsletter called open ml dot fyi
[3404.32 --> 3406.98] it is new I literally sort of
[3406.98 --> 3408.58] launched it to some friends a
[3408.58 --> 3410.30] couple weeks ago and more
[3410.30 --> 3412.10] broadly yesterday but is
[3412.10 --> 3413.54] literally about these questions
[3413.54 --> 3414.66] about open and machine
[3414.66 --> 3416.80] learning overlap which
[3416.80 --> 3418.58] includes questions like is
[3418.58 --> 3419.40] this the end of no
[3419.40 --> 3421.26] warranties because every
[3421.26 --> 3422.58] open source license as you
[3422.58 --> 3423.46] pointed out Chris has like
[3423.46 --> 3425.36] big all caps text that says
[3425.36 --> 3427.22] no warranties if you break
[3427.22 --> 3429.94] it you buy it and what does
[3429.94 --> 3431.04] that mean in light of EU
[3431.04 --> 3432.60] regulation you know be
[3432.60 --> 3433.46] talking about a lot of this
[3433.46 --> 3434.76] stuff like copilot there as
[3434.76 --> 3436.12] well so would love to have you
[3436.12 --> 3437.16] all back but for those of you
[3437.16 --> 3438.28] who are curious about that
[3438.28 --> 3440.78] topic it's a ghost a gpl
[3440.78 --> 3443.08] powered newsletter open ml dot fyi
[3443.08 --> 3444.44] we'll add it in the show
[3444.44 --> 3445.66] notes I want to end with
[3445.66 --> 3446.62] like because I know we got to
[3446.62 --> 3447.66] get to unpopular opinions but I
[3447.66 --> 3448.86] just want to say like one of
[3448.86 --> 3449.50] the things I always think
[3449.50 --> 3450.52] about when we get into these
[3450.52 --> 3451.60] conversations is like people
[3451.60 --> 3453.34] tend to think like humans are
[3453.34 --> 3454.88] like transactional and they're
[3454.88 --> 3455.96] like kind of mean to each
[3455.96 --> 3457.22] other and we want a war and all
[3457.22 --> 3458.84] of that and I feel like the
[3458.84 --> 3460.82] existence of open source and
[3460.82 --> 3462.18] the existence of our industry as
[3462.18 --> 3463.80] a whole proves that people are
[3463.80 --> 3465.82] a lot of times selfless and will
[3465.82 --> 3468.38] sacrifice a lot just to make
[3468.38 --> 3470.26] other people feel good just for
[3470.26 --> 3471.62] the happiness of other people
[3471.62 --> 3473.50] and I think that's like shows
[3473.50 --> 3475.24] how like incredible and how
[3475.24 --> 3476.92] collaborative we are as a
[3476.92 --> 3478.84] species but I think more of us
[3478.84 --> 3480.66] need to remember that especially
[3480.66 --> 3482.18] in the times we are now we are
[3482.18 --> 3484.50] not necessarily this always angry