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[3484.50 --> 3485.78] at each other always warring |
[3485.78 --> 3487.44] always territorial species quite |
[3487.44 --> 3488.96] often most of us are just like |
[3488.96 --> 3490.60] these we just want to help our |
[3490.60 --> 3492.64] fellow people out it's been too |
[3492.64 --> 3493.52] long since I worked at |
[3493.52 --> 3496.04] Wikipedia but I mean here's this |
[3496.04 --> 3497.26] thing this is amazing cultural |
[3497.26 --> 3498.94] treasure and anyone can go and |
[3498.94 --> 3501.16] graffiti on it at any time and |
[3501.16 --> 3502.30] like something like one in a |
[3502.30 --> 3505.02] thousand edits are spam right |
[3505.02 --> 3506.76] like I mean think about what |
[3506.76 --> 3509.16] that says as like to exactly your |
[3509.16 --> 3510.98] point Chris right like actually |
[3510.98 --> 3513.90] most of the time most people we |
[3513.90 --> 3515.58] all want to make this work right |
[3515.58 --> 3519.90] and open source open data are very |
[3519.90 --> 3523.90] much I think like genuinely amazing |
[3523.90 --> 3525.94] that's why I enjoy doing it right |
[3525.94 --> 3528.56] like there are a lot more lucrative |
[3528.56 --> 3530.34] things probably all of us could be |
[3530.34 --> 3532.16] doing with our lives but yeah it's |
[3532.16 --> 3533.60] human and humane in a great way |
[3533.60 --> 3536.02] lovely note to end the episode we're |
[3536.02 --> 3537.38] gonna have to get you back for a part |
[3537.38 --> 3540.00] two for sure but before we let you go |
[3540.00 --> 3541.52] we're gonna be doing a little bit of |
[3541.52 --> 3543.20] unpopular opinions |
[3543.20 --> 3565.12] so over to you Lewis what is your go |
[3565.12 --> 3567.94] time on popular opinion oh boy I mean |
[3567.94 --> 3569.18] the one I have in the show notes is |
[3569.18 --> 3570.48] absolutely the one I already nailed |
[3570.48 --> 3573.16] which is hey we should all be paying |
[3573.16 --> 3574.94] for this right we got it for free for |
[3574.94 --> 3578.32] a long time and that train is running |
[3578.32 --> 3580.94] out for very human decent reasons |
[3580.94 --> 3582.62] right like it's not like I think |
[3582.62 --> 3584.40] companies are bad for having used this |
[3584.40 --> 3587.26] stuff but as Chris was saying sometimes |
[3587.26 --> 3589.98] you raise that employee company I will |
[3589.98 --> 3591.84] never forget so there was this project |
[3591.84 --> 3594.48] that I was invited to like yeah come to |
[3594.48 --> 3595.94] a meeting about right I won't be |
[3595.94 --> 3598.00] specific but it was one of many many |
[3598.00 --> 3599.86] many many many open source metadata |
[3599.86 --> 3602.64] projects and people went on for like |
[3602.64 --> 3605.58] about 45 50 minutes and I was like okay |
[3605.58 --> 3608.10] but why are volunteers gonna create all |
[3608.10 --> 3612.18] this metadata for you quiet silence quiet |
[3612.18 --> 3614.86] silence okay but why what's their |
[3614.86 --> 3617.22] motivation I don't know it's probably |
[3617.22 --> 3619.18] just gonna happen needless to say that |
[3619.18 --> 3621.80] project is has not really gone much of |
[3621.80 --> 3624.50] anywhere but I was treated as like a |
[3624.50 --> 3626.60] pariah and like literally not invited to |
[3626.60 --> 3629.02] future meetings for a while because I had |
[3629.02 --> 3631.30] dared to ask this like question of why |
[3631.30 --> 3633.50] would people do this unfortunately I |
[3633.50 --> 3636.26] still get that all too often I think to |
[3636.26 --> 3638.24] be fair lots of people are getting the |
[3638.24 --> 3639.90] message finally but it's taken longer |
[3639.90 --> 3642.06] than I should have that's my sadly |
[3642.06 --> 3643.92] unpopular opinion today it's like that |
[3643.92 --> 3645.46] meme about that guy that's being thrown |
[3645.46 --> 3646.60] outside of the window |
[3646.60 --> 3650.28] wait which thrown outside of the window |
[3650.28 --> 3651.84] now I gotta google this where it's like |
[3651.84 --> 3653.36] they're all in the meeting this comic |
[3653.36 --> 3656.12] strip that oh yeah yeah yeah yeah |
[3656.12 --> 3659.24] mm-hmm yeah yep been there go |
[3659.24 --> 3661.72] intrigued to see how unpopular or in fact |
[3661.72 --> 3665.48] popular that opinion is and then I want to |
[3665.48 --> 3667.36] ask you Chris for an unpopular opinion |
[3667.36 --> 3669.08] given that we're just getting you back |
[3669.08 --> 3670.84] and I'm sure you have something on your |
[3670.84 --> 3673.40] mind you always do I have so many |
[3673.40 --> 3675.92] unpopular opinions I don't think this is |
[3675.92 --> 3677.96] gonna be unpopular so I think most people |
[3677.96 --> 3680.10] probably agree but it's like a thing I |
[3680.10 --> 3681.58] want to put out into the universe more |
[3681.58 --> 3685.10] and that is that every tech company |
[3685.10 --> 3689.50] larger than probably 20 or 30 people |
[3689.50 --> 3693.20] should hire a librarian we create |
[3693.20 --> 3696.34] ridiculous amounts of information but |
[3696.34 --> 3697.86] then we usually just dump it into a |
[3697.86 --> 3699.64] wiki and then we're like we'll be able |
[3699.64 --> 3700.94] to find it just use the search |
[3700.94 --> 3702.98] functionality or we like try and make a |
[3702.98 --> 3705.60] docs page and we're like users will be |
[3705.60 --> 3707.06] able to find stuff and it's like there's |
[3707.06 --> 3709.22] an actual degree program of people who |
[3709.22 --> 3712.04] like get doctorates and how to arrange |
[3712.04 --> 3714.50] information so people can find it like |
[3714.50 --> 3717.98] go hire them like it's not you don't |
[3717.98 --> 3719.26] even have to like they're not even that |
[3719.26 --> 3721.24] expensive to hire like just go get a |
[3721.24 --> 3723.18] couple like a librarian and archivist and |
[3723.18 --> 3725.66] then make your data and your information |
[3725.66 --> 3727.50] just much more clean and much more |
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