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**Bartlomiej Święcki:** Yes, exactly.
**Jon Calhoun:** But if Jerod wants to summarize this as "You should chase after people while you're coding", we can do that, too. \[laughter\]
**Johnny Boursiquot:** We can do that too, we can do that too. Jon, did you bring one?
**Jon Calhoun:** I did not.
**Johnny Boursiquot:** You did not.
**Jon Calhoun:** I can say I agree with Bart though. I like the idea of thinking about other ways... Johnny, you have a standing desk, don't you?
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Yeah, I can raise it up and take it back down when I need to.
**Jon Calhoun:** I used one of those for a while, and basically what I've found was that I didn't like changing my setup all the time... And because I have enough space in my house, what I ended up doing was just getting a desk that's always standing, and putting a walking treadmill under it. I've found that depending ...
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Alright, alright, alright... That's good. I didn't bring an unpopular opinion, but I thought of one as we were having this powwow. One thing we didn't get to talk about, but that I am gonna do a show on... So that's the unpopular opinion - I'm doing a show on blockchain at some point in the futur...
**Bartlomiej Święcki:** It's a dangerous opinion.
**Jon Calhoun:** So your unpopular opinion is that you think you should do a blockchain show.
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Yeah, exactly. I think I need to do an episode on blockchain. But yeah, that's gonna be unpopular. Yeah, it's brutal out there, man... \[laughs\]
**Jon Calhoun:** I'm honestly curious if that's unpopular or just incredibly polarizing... Because there's definitely some people who agree with you doing a show on that. I can't imagine -- I don't know how many though...
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Right. Well, I'm hoping folks won't shoot the messenger. I'm just the messenger. Look, I just don't want us to bury our heads in the sand and pretend this thing doesn't exist, because clearly, it pisses off a lot of people. So let's just talk about it, like we do most things. Let's just talk abou...
• The speaker discusses the theoretical aspect of cryptography and mathematics.
• The benefits of finding practical applications for cryptographic theories.
• Introduction to IMUDB (Immutable Database) as a live database that uses machinery to prove and verify data integrity.
• Overview of SignalWire, an API provider offering low-latency video communication solutions.
• Discussion about immutable databases, specifically EmuDB, developed by the Code Notary team.
• The concept of immutable databases and their benefits for maintaining data integrity.
• Interview with Bart Sienczki and Hiranimo Irazapal, developers of EmuDB, to discuss their experience using Go in building this technology.
• Immutable databases aim to preserve the history and state of data at a particular point in time
• They help maintain a trail or log of changes over time for auditability and understanding how data changed
• Immutability focuses on not altering existing records, but rather adding new ones with updated information
• This approach is useful for tracking critical or historical data that should not be altered
• Different use cases for databases: tracking changes over time vs. relying on current state
• Immutability as protection against tampering with history
• Banking application example: checking balance and transactions
• Importance of verifiability in immutability databases
• Clarification of term "immutability": appending-only data structures vs. verifiable history
• Discussion of verifiable databases, where current state and history are independent
• Tamper detection and integrity validation
• Cryptographic verifiability of data
• Immutable databases capture complete state with hash values at every moment
• Client only needs to keep track of the current state, not the entire history
• Deletion methods: logical deletion vs physical deletion
• Physical deletion involves actually removing data while maintaining proof of its existence
• Use cases for immutable databases: GDPR requirements, avoiding data tampering and ensuring consistency
• Benefits of using FireHydrant for incident management and automation
• Features of FireHydrant, including incident tooling, service catalogs, and incident analytics
• Importance of immutable databases and their ability to provide a high degree of confidence in data integrity
• Use cases for immutable databases, such as financial transactions and health records
• Background on the development of Inmudev and its goal of making immutable databases easy to use
• Previous experience with digital right management and applied cryptography at IBM
• Database architecture with both SQL and key-value store capabilities
• Dual modality for accessing data: traditional RDBMS and append-only log
• Log-based storage as verifiable transparency logs
• Indexing possibility for efficient querying
• Temporal capabilities to query database as it was in the past
• Addition of SQL capabilities on top of key-value database
• Isolation between SQL and key-value store entries
• Advantages of using SQL: easier application modeling and indexing
• Possibility to verify data in SQL
• Admitting and correcting mistakes is essential in working with immutable databases like MUDB
• Immutable databases provide auditability of history, allowing corrections to be made without altering the past state
• The concept of "freezing" values in the database can create a record of past events
• Using immutable databases can improve security by preventing changes to released code or data
• Developers may struggle with admitting mistakes and correcting them due to fear of being seen as incompetent
• Immutable databases can require convincing other clients to update their local state, making rollback more difficult
• Executive order on cybersecurity and software bill of materials (SBOM)
• Origins of technologies like QLDB and EMUDB
• Software bill of materials (SBOM) as a solution for verifying software dependencies and vulnerabilities
• Use of immutable ledgers to store and verify SBOM information
• Benefits of immutability in preventing tampering with SBOM data
• Example use case: identifying vulnerable components in software infrastructure using SBOM
• Code Notary uses immutability to store information
• Log4J vulnerability highlighted importance of software bill of materials
• Immutability requires operational procedures like data compaction
• Go was chosen for its benefits in performance, concurrency, and simplicity
• Google's use of Go adds credibility to its suitability for large-scale deployments
• Code readability is also a key advantage of using Go
• Discussion of contentment and personal preferences
• Formatting and coding preferences (Go vs C++)
• Unpopular opinions segment introduction
• Bar's unpopular opinion on working environment and physical limitations
• Bart's unpopular opinion on exercise and using muscles while working
• Discussing projects while engaging in physical activities
• Exploring non-traditional work environments that incorporate body movement
• Standing desks and walking treadmills as alternatives to traditional seating
• Limitations of implementing interactive workspaces due to office space constraints
• Considering the development of a show on blockchain technology
• Follow-ups and clarifications on previous discussions
• Announcement for first-time listeners to subscribe at gotime.fm
• Request for reviews and recommendations from long-term listeners
• Acknowledgment of sponsors: Fastly, Breakmaster Cylinder
• Preview of next week's episode with Ed Welch discussing logging
[0.00 --> 3.68] The cryptography itself and mathematics can be very theoretical.