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**Justin Garrison:** So they have Debian. And fun fact about Debian is all of their releases are named after Toy Story characters. And so you have -- so if you ever use Jesse, or all of these... All of their normal releases are named after characters, and then --
**Autumn Nash:** Do you ever hear something about someone, and you're just like "I'd totally be their friend"? \[laughter\]
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, we are immediate friends. I don't know you, but we are friends. The unstable release of Debian is called Sid, for the neighbor that blows up toys.
**Autumn Nash:** Oh, my God. Okay, tell me how my kids could watch Nightmare Before Christmas and every creepy Disney show, but Sid was where they drew the line. They were like "This dude - no." It took them years to watch Toy Story, and I'm like "That's not even a scary show." And he's like "Did you see what they did ...
**Justin Garrison:** If you watch it now, the animation was so crude that it actually looks a little more scary to me, where I was like "Oh my gosh, it's uncanny valley sort of scary", because we look at what animation is now, which is like "Oh, that dog doesn't have fur! It's like a weird \[unintelligible 01:16:01.26\...
**Autumn Nash:** Yeah.
**Justin Garrison:** \[01:16:05.15\] There's a lot of things I'm like "Actually, this scares me this. I get this." So if anyone has other names for things, please send them; email us, shipit \[at\] changelog. Because I want to hear more of them. I have a list now, and we could redo this as a segment if we get more name...
**Autumn Nash:** Or post them in the comments. That'd be cool, too. We could reply to the comments.
**Justin Garrison:** Yes, that's true. Leave a comment, whatever. If you also have people that you would to hear on the show, topics you'd like to hear on the show, go ahead and please email us, shipit \[at\] changelog, because we have a collection of people we're talking to.
**Autumn Nash:** What's your dream interviews? I feel like we need more space people.
**Justin Garrison:** More space people, yeah. Who do people want on the show? Who would be the number one -- I want to hear what this infrastructure...
**Autumn Nash:** Like, what kind of industries would you -- what is your jam? What would be your top industries that you really want to know more about?
**Justin Garrison:** I love embedded systems. I like hardware, and I would love to hear -- the space episode was really cool, just because it was something far, far away. But also other systems like that, that are in environments where nothing should exist. Things deep sea, things in the desert, things that we're just ...
**Autumn Nash:** I love processes, and thinking about the unique problems... Because those are such unique problems that you have to solve for, but they're abstract in a way, but they're also very visual, in like a physical -- you can think of like "Okay, this is going to be somewhere, and it's going to have this probl...
**Justin Garrison:** I have always loved when software interacts with the physical world. When bits and atoms, they get together and they're like "We're doing something together." And it's just like "Ah, I wrote something down, and it made --" The first time that I loved software is when I made an LED turn on. I typed ...
**Autumn Nash:** Yes...! That's why I love IoT, and that kind of stuff, because it's that bridge between you get an IDE, and you make a bunch of stuff out of thin air, and then it affects the real world. And that is just like --
**Justin Garrison:** And electricity moves because I told it. That's just it's like "Ah..."
**Autumn Nash:** It's like real magic in real life. You know, if you grew up thinking about Harry Potter, and all these magical things, and then all of a sudden it's like software magic in real life... The first time your kids runs something in a code editor, and they see it work, and you're just like "Yes! We've got t...
**Justin Garrison:** Robotics is really fun, and there's a lot of things like that, where it's just like, I love how those things get together. The words I wrote over here...
**Chris Swan:** I'm going to pay my life savings for my kid to go to a robotics camp, mostly because I couldn't afford stuff like that when I was little... And I'm so jelly, dude. I'm like "Why don't we have this for adults?"
**Justin Garrison:** An adults space camp would be amazing.
**Autumn Nash:** Oh my God, we have to start this space camp...!
**Justin Garrison:** Autumn, I have too many things going on. I'm not doing this. I'm just kidding.
**Autumn Nash:** \[01:19:19.04\] I know. We don't have enough hours in the day already. But okay, but hear me out - space camp would be so much... Can you imagine me and you and a bunch of our nerd friends at our space camp? That's it. We have to call Andrew, and be like "Andrew \[unintelligible 01:19:30.10\] We have a...
**Justin Garrison:** Alright, thanks everyone for listening to the show. One last thing is the day you hear this - hopefully it's not too late, but March 14th through 17th, Autumn and I are both going to be at the Southern California Linux Expo Scale in Pasadena, California. So if you are coming to Scale and want to sa...
**Autumn Nash:** Oh, my God. I'm so excited.
**Justin Garrison:** There's a lot of fun things going on. And if you're at Scale and want to say hi, please feel free to stop us. Yeah, we'd love to meet you in person.
**Autumn Nash:** We should record a Scale episode.
**Justin Garrison:** I'm trying to think of how we would do that, and if we want to do interviews for it, so we might have a Scale --
**Autumn Nash:** We should \[unintelligible 01:20:21.25\] That'd be so much fun...!
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, a Scale episode... But also, I'm working, I'm one of the organizers for Scale and Kubernetes community day, so I have a lot of other things to do... So we'll have to figure out how that fits in.
**Autumn Nash:** Stop having five jobs, Justin. We have to do fun nerd stuff.
**Justin Garrison:** That is fun nerd stuff. I get to volunteer for a Linux Expo, and that's cool.
**Autumn Nash:** It is cool.
**Justin Garrison:** The eyeroll on that was...
**Autumn Nash:** But we have to have interviews, too.
**Justin Garrison:** Well, I'll send you a microphone out and you can go start meeting all the cool people and just recording.
**Autumn Nash:** Also, we should go into the nerd Olympics. Oh my God, we can be a team. It'd be so much fun.
**Justin Garrison:** If you want to compete with us, I'm sorry; you will not get golds. We will win these events. Do you think the Nerd Olympics are going to have physical requirements?
**Autumn Nash:** I don't know. The possibilities... I'm super-excited. It can go either way. I'm just excited to see what it is at this point.
**Justin Garrison:** I don't remember all of the events, but I remember one of them was like a paper airplane contest; like, who can throw the paper airplane the farthest.
**Autumn Nash:** Okay, \[unintelligible 01:21:27.19\] at that. I've got three kids. I can do that.
**Justin Garrison:** There you go. One of them was rebuild a Lego model without the instructions... But the Lego model's across the room, so you have to go run, look at it, go run to your table and build as fast as you can... And if you need to see it again, you've gotta go run back.
**Autumn Nash:** Oh my God, the kid that's never been that great at sports - this is me right here. I've finally found my jam of Olympics.
**Justin Garrison:** The game night at Scale is pretty epic. So if you've never been to the Southern California Linux Expo before, I highly recommend it. I've been going for --
**Autumn Nash:** I feel like I'm going to the conference of my people, and I'm so \[unintelligible 01:22:04.05\]
**Justin Garrison:** It is my favorite conference to go to every year. It's fun, it's in Pasadena.
**Autumn Nash:** I'm so excited to meet you in real life. We're going to be like nerd friends in real life together. It's going to be so awesome!
**Justin Garrison:** It's gonna be a good time. But yeah, if you are listening to this show and want to say hi, please stop us and do so, because we don't know your face, and hopefully you'll at least hear our voice. If you have to see my face, I'm sorry.
**Autumn Nash:** I'll be the girl with way too many tech T-shirts and \[unintelligible 01:22:31.09\] It's gonna be great.