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**Justin Garrison:** Hopefully people will find you with that. But also, come to your talk and learn all about AI and data. |
**Autumn Nash:** I both want them to come and want them not to come, because I'm really nervous. It's gonna be great though. |
**Justin Garrison:** Yes, it is gonna be great. So thanks everyone for listening, and we will be speaking at you next week. Thanks for joining, and hopefully see you soon. |
• The podcast Ship It is ending its run |
• Autumn Nash and Justin Garrison are starting a new podcast called Fork Around and Find Out |
• Changelog is focusing on the episodes that started the brand, but will still keep in touch with Autumn and Justin |
• The hosts reflect on their time on Ship It, including learning to record podcasts and dealing with technical issues |
• They discuss the challenges of making a sustainable podcast, including audio quality and editing |
• Autumn Nash shares her process for naming the new podcast, which was influenced by the idea of finding something that is both nerdy and ridiculous |
• The challenges of categorizing and defining roles in the software industry |
• Defining the scope and focus of a podcast or show (e.g. Fork Around and Find Out) |
• The importance of understanding business and process aspects in addition to technical skills for running software |
• The impact of AI on software maintenance and operations |
• The value of interviewing guests from various industries and backgrounds, including those with unique experiences such as working with space-related software |
• Reflecting on past episodes and the lessons learned about technology, innovation, and industry trends |
• Discussing the impermanence and rapid change in the tech industry, and the potential for new opportunities and solutions |
• Tech industry cycles and the need for rebirth |
• The impact of technology on daily life and the shift from "new" to ubiquitous |
• Access to basic necessities like phones, email, and internet services for low-income individuals |
• The evolution of technology from early days to present day and its changing role in society |
• Retro tech episodes and experiences, such as early internet and video games |
• The potential for future guests and topics related to gaming industry and special effects |
• Evolution of streaming services |
• Gaming platforms (Luna, Game Pass, etc.) |
• Minecraft and its multi-platform development challenges |
• Kubernetes and edge locations (Target, Walmart, etc.) |
• Database sharding and online dating |
• Nushell and shell-based programming |
• Tar as a bedtime story and its creator's experience |
• Women in tech and platform engineering (Gina, Veronica, Lily) |
• Discussion about the challenges of topping previous episodes with interesting guests and topics |
• Importance of constraints in making problems interesting |
• Excitement for upcoming events, including Scale conference and podcasting in-person |
• Accessibility to tech conferences and meetups for people with disabilities or non-traditional schedules |
• Discussion on creating new ways to make tech accessible in the current era |
• The benefits of having big conversations in public and making knowledge accessible to others |
• The magic of Twitter threads and online discussions for learning and socialization |
• Blue Sky and running one's own infrastructure as a way to gain experience and skills, especially for those who are introverted or new to the industry |
• The value of being able to maintain and operate one's own social media platform, including learning about communication, status pages, and community management |
• The importance of gaining hands-on experience with technology and infrastructure in a voluntary setting before moving into professional roles |
• Personal anecdotes and stories from Justin and Autumn about their experiences and relationships in the tech industry |
• Justin Garrison receives a box from his friend Bill Gates with old Microsoft swag |
• The contents include a signed copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, posters, playing cards, and other memorabilia |
• Autumn Nash is impressed by the nostalgic items and compares Justin's past to being a teen heartthrob |
• They discuss their history as influencers, starting before social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok |
• Justin reveals he kept swag from Microsoft's launch party for Windows 7 in 2009 |
• The conversation turns to upcoming events, including the Scale gathering and planning ridiculous shirts for their kids |
• Learning experience through listener support |
• Appreciation for listeners' contributions to the show |
• Holiday greetings and wishes for the future |
**Justin Garrison:** Hello and welcome to Ship It, the podcast all about everything after git push. I'm your host, Justin Garrison, and with me, as always and for the last time, Autumn Nash. How's it going, Autumn? |
**Autumn Nash:** I'm so sad...! It's a weird feeling. Like, I'm both excited, because I just feel like we're going to be up to even more ridiculous stuff... Because like, now, I feel like we can just expand to just pure nerdy ridiculousness... And it doesn't necessarily have to be maintaining software. You know what I ... |
**Justin Garrison:** I mean, I want to start by just saying thanks to Jerod and Adam for letting us do this show. If this is your first time... |
**Autumn Nash:** They took a chance on us. |
**Justin Garrison:** If this is your first time listening to Ship It - hi, welcome. This is the last episode. |
**Autumn Nash:** That would be our luck. Somebody would come on and then be like "Oh, this is great" and then never hear another episode, because we switch podcasts. |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, but that's okay. So thank you, Jerod, thank you, Adam, for letting Autumn and I kind of take this show in our own direction, with our own sort of ideas, and also just like -- |
**Autumn Nash:** They took a chance on us. We've never been podcast hosts before, so we had to learn, and we kind of sucked. |
**Justin Garrison:** Well, I was once, and it was terrible. So that one doesn't count. |
**Autumn Nash:** I love how you always tell on yourself. You're always down to be like "I did it this one time, and it was horrible, but..." |
**Justin Garrison:** My first podcast I recorded I think was 2008... And I remember, because I had no podcasting gear, and I was on the floor of my apartment with my laptop, and I put a blanket over me to get better sound quality... And I was talking for like a half hour, and by the end of that, I felt like I was going... |
**Autumn Nash:** This is why you're my favorite nerd friend to do hoodrat stuff with... Because who does that, Justin? You're like "I almost gave myself heatstroke this one time I tried to have a podcast..." Who does that?! |
**Justin Garrison:** \[unintelligible 00:04:53.07\] But this show has been great. We've learned a lot through the whole process... I mean, we've changed -- |
**Autumn Nash:** Dude, they've put up with us through my low voice, your computer turning off... Like, Jerod, and like Adam there... Just gents. Thank you for taking a chance on us. |
**Justin Garrison:** And Brian and Jason and our editors, producers, everyone that's helped us out... |
**Autumn Nash:** I'm going to miss Brian so much. The poor man has had to listen to us for so long, and he just understands us... And dude -- and Jason, who am I going to ask about their mom? I'm just like going to miss Jason, and he's all like "Whatever..." and I'm just like "But we're not going to talk to you every w... |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. So I'm sure they're going to have a great time with the new stuff. I'm really glad that Changelog has decided that they want to focus on the episodes that really started the whole Changelog stuff for. |
**Autumn Nash:** Okay, but still be our friends, Changelog. Don't forget about us. |
**Justin Garrison:** I'm sure we'll have plenty of opportunity to talk to fellow people from before, from Ship It episodes, and Changelog folks in the future, which is good going forward. |
**Autumn Nash:** We should have Jerod and Adam on Fork Around and Find Out. That'd be so fun. |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. And so for anyone else, again, if this is your first episode listening, Autumn and I are starting a new podcast, which is discovering over the last month how much work that is. Especially to do it - I want to say in a...Not the right way, but a sustainable way. |
**Autumn Nash:** Professional way...? |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. Something -- we want to keep the audio quality up, we want to keep the guests, and the topics... The quality is -- this isn't just a "We're hanging out and talking." |
**Autumn Nash:** And we should not trust us to do audio. Keeping it real - that is a whole job. And so is editing... Props to all the people that do all of the editing, and audio, and clips, and website for their own podcasts, because we do not have time. |
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