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**Adam Stacoviak:** Did you get up?
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** I did get back up... I did.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Are you still friends?
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** \[laughs\] Well, yes... Distant friends.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah... So not really.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Well, life has its way of changing things. But I don't harbor that any longer, nonetheless.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** And it might seem like a silly example, but it still gets at the way in which people respond to us, and how that makes a difference in how we feel, and then what we're more prone to do.
**Adam Stacoviak:** We were talking, to some degree, as the subject is the center the failed person... But what do you do whenever you are the relationship to the person who failed, so the friend in the car? How can we respond to other people's opportunity for resilience, opportunity for learning from these falls, or t...
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Sure. In that case, it would have gone a lot better to be like "Ugh... That sucked. Are you okay?" Checking in more with me, instead of the laughter. And it's not to say that in relationships, too -- they're all different. If you are more prone to already laugh at yourself in situations, t...
\[44:21\] Think of all the times you're on teams; a lot of people work in teams. So what's your response to a team member who doesn't do what you need them to do, or they do muck it up, and it has implications for you... Like, you now have to stay late at work because your team member messed up the project, and now you...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** You don't need somebody to load more weight when you're already feeling disappointed.
**Adam Stacoviak:** It's hard.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Right? It is.
**Adam Stacoviak:** The position of empathy is interesting, because \[unintelligible 00:45:15.28\] see often in a sort of doubling down on or talking about other people's missteps... Regardless of whom, or severity etc. It's almost as if we thrive. Not we as like you and I, but the proverbial we. I think maybe even pot...
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** \[46:25\] Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with you. It really does help when we lead with more questions or curiosity... To go "Where were you at? What was your frame of mind when you said X, Y or Z, or when you did X, Y or Z?" ...that I can find out more from them, as opposed to me telling t...
**Adam Stacoviak:** It doesn't feel good.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** It doesn't. And really, who literally wakes up each day and is like "Let me try to figure out how bad I can feel today, how much I can fail everyone I care about and myself?" No! We don't do that. There is just a sort of narrowing latitude for people to be people. I sort of joke in going "...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right.
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** So why do I think it's helpful to judge somebody else's process, when I've got my own? And just because mine doesn't look like theirs, or theirs doesn't look like mine, doesn't mean it isn't valuable for learning to get them where they need to go to cultivate the skills they're gonna need,...
I really enjoy being able to talk about these things, because we can say these are the things we know about the brain, and ways in which we can be better humans, and work better together. There isn't a formulaic approach, it really does come down to going "How can I adapt? How can I be flexible and how can I manage the...
• The importance of clarity in uncertain times
• Analogy of lotto balls to describe the uncertainty and unpredictability of life
• Clarity as a means of coping with uncertainty and achieving functional communication
• Differences between internal (personal) and external (circumstantial) sources of uncertainty
• Challenges of communication during the pandemic, including text-based vs. face-to-face interactions and the loss of nonverbal cues
• The impact of lack of clarity on relationships and personal anxiety
• The importance of awareness and self-reflection in navigating uncertainty
• Clarity vs assumption: operating from a place of clarity leads to better decision-making
• The need for future thinking and planning to achieve goals and contribute to the future
• The role of personal values and desires in decision-making and goal-setting
• The value of taking deliberate and intentional action towards one's goals and vision for the future
• Importance of clarity and responsibility in communication
• Assumptions vs taking 100% ownership of one's own level of clarity
• Differentiating between honesty (telling the truth) and dishonesty (omission or commission)
• The power of words and decision-making as a means to create clarity
• Cutting away other options and making a clear decision (dēcīdere)
• Focusing on quality thinking, decision-making, and clarity in communication
• Applying the "heck yes or no" principle when making decisions
• The importance of trying on options in one's mind before making a decision
• The need for self-awareness and being true to oneself when making choices
• Contorting or conforming to external expectations vs. staying true to oneself
• The value of prediction models and exploring potential outcomes
• The importance of seeking wisdom from others, but also trusting one's own instincts
• Cultivating clarity through deliberate and intentional action, rather than relying on external factors
• The role of desire in seeking clarity, including the idea that "you've got to will it to want it"
• Being a scientist of oneself, observing and learning from internal obstacles and opposition
• The importance of being assertive and clear about one's own goals and expectations when interacting with others.
• How being polite can sometimes be mistaken for being unclear or unwilling to express oneself.
• The concept of "time-boxing" as a way to clearly communicate needs and boundaries.
• The idea that "nevers" (things we never want to do) can actually serve as a blueprint for getting what we want.
• The value of conversation and seeking help from others when struggling with clarity or decision-making.
• The importance of considering one's contribution to the world and how they can use their unique skills and strengths to make a meaningful impact.
• Career dissatisfaction and reevaluation
• Exploring new opportunities or career fields
• Reflecting on personal desires and aspirations
• Importance of self-reflection and journaling for career exploration
• Embracing curiosity and experimentation in one's career journey
**Adam Stacoviak:** The way we got to this topic was during retrospectives we do, Mireille. We talk about the show, what we've been doing, and somehow life always mixes in... And we talk about our troubles, our woes and things that happen. And we both had issues that could have been a little bit maybe better or avoided...
**Mireille Reece, PsyD:** Yeah. Well, I think that just with so much unrest and uncertainty as the mainstay, that more than ever I think it's helpful if we can have some clarity. I talk with patient metaphorically, that life can feel much more like the lotto balls popping up like, "Oh, gosh, that popped up, and that po...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Can you give a visual to that though? Because I think-- is everybody familiar with lotto balls and how that drawings work? Because that's analog and old. Is that still happening these days?
**Mireille Reece, PsyD:** Well, I just see it on the commercials, sometimes. There's winners. So lotto balls are like--they're all swirling with air in this small container. So there's pressure, and then all of a sudden, they have to jockey over which one gets to go into the slot, that then sets the order sequence of t...
**Adam Stacoviak:** And it's random.
**Mireille Reece, PsyD:** It's random. But it's all a fight around which one are we gonna go with, based on the air and the pressure within that small, little space. I think we're all in smaller spaces than we were some months ago. And really, there's uncertainty in so many ways about what's next and possibly where you...
I just think how people think in pictures more, and so an analogy would be when I go out to my car, I don't ask anybody else where they're going before I decide where I'm going to drive. I already have a clear idea of, "I'm getting in my car to go to place A, B, C or D", and that's the thing. It's an internal thing of ...
**Adam Stacoviak:** I think in team terms too, where there's a common goal. Maybe there's a result, an anticipated result. And it's about, "Well, I know where we're going and you know where we're going", and we have maybe different life perspectives, obviously, and maybe some different standards and discipline we opera...
**Mireille Reece, PsyD:** Sure.
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's the challenge.