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[S1] They calm your inflammation, they make you happy. It is the best probiotic you could ever take. [S2] That's so cool. [S1] I know. [S2] That is so cool. [S1] We're trying to, we're trying to produce short-chain fatty acids through so many different things. Like everyone's like, "Take this pill for, to produce short...
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[S1] ... like about what you're saying is the second that you said, your gut bacteria's mad at you. And if I think in simple terms, which I like to do because if a concept is simple, I can apply it to my life, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] When you tell me the game here, everybody, is make your gut bacteria happy.
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[S1] ... Take your gut bacteria for a walk, 30 minutes outside, and all of a sudden, it's like doing its happy dance, and it's making you feel better, and we all know this to be true. And then you said the third F is fiber and something else. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So what does that mean? [S2] For-
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[S1] You then, uh, made it do its happy dance with the walk, right? And the sunlight. And now the first thing that you're putting in your stomach is not something that is gonna cause all kind of gaseous, I don't even know if it's a word, but you know what I mean. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's not gonna make the balloon inflate....
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[S1] ... gut reset protocol. [S2] Hey. [S1] What are we doing, Dr. Shawn? Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. I am so glad that you're here. So thank you, thank you, thank you for being here. And I know that you're not here because of me. You're probably here 'cause you wanna know, what i...
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[S1] Emergency survival mode. And people always equate it to kind of like, you know, you're getting chased by a tiger, um, and you don't really care about taking care of your gut. You don't really care about, uh, balancing your hormones. Like your focus on how do I survive in the next minute. [S2] Yes. [S1] And unfortu...
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[S1] ... you're gonna have fear and stress, you're gonna pay attention to it. [S2] Right. [S1] And spend more time clicking it. And, um, so that's what works on social media or news media. And so we're always, and it's good to, you know, obviously know real live world events, but it's also good to learn how to manage y...
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[S1] Uh, spices. Uh, they work like prebiotic fiber. So these are, uh, amazing things like turmeric and ginger and all of these, uh, foods. So, uh, also fruits and vegetables. So the best fruits to have when you are bloated is bananas. [S2] Really? [S1] Uh, is avocados, is a, um,
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[S1] Okay. [S2] When you start on the five day reset, the first day on, in addition to what you've already done in the morning, you're going to add exercise. And E, it's the first E of the four different Es that we're going to be doing. And the last day we're going to add all of the, um, Es together. So it's like- [S1]...
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[S1] No, it doesn't matter. Just move your body because let's be honest. [S2] Okay. [S1] Any kind of exercise is good exercise. Now, if you want to add in yoga because you get the twisting, amazing, because we know that physically twisting your gut
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[S1] during menopause, that speeds up to almost double. And so getting that body moving, lifting weights. Okay, so exercises number one. [S2] Okay. Day two. [S1] Day two, eliminate E. So the second E is eliminate. So what that means is that food elimination diet we talked about, you're going to start doing that. So tak...
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[S1] Maybe triggering. So, so for some people that could be nuts, for some people that can be shellfish, some people it can be corn, but usually it's gluten, dairy, and sugar. If you're not sure, just take those three out. Okay? That's- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... eliminate. That's day, that's day two.
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[S1] Bromelain from that pineapple, that, uh, papaya that has a digestive enzymes in there that help you digest it. So you're gonna add foods back that your gut bacteria love. So yogurt is another one. [S2] I have a question. [S1] Yeah. [S2] What protein- [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ... is better for your gut than other in terms...
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[S1] bacteria happy and satisfied as well. So that's a really, like, gut, your gut loves protein. What it doesn't love is fake protein. Do you know what I mean? Like those shakes- [S2] Fake meats and stuff. [S1] ... and bars and fake meats and, like, all the fake stuff. Like, um,
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[S1] Now, I noticed you didn't say locally raised meats, chicken, lamb. Do you not- [S2] You can. [S1] Would you not want to eat meat during-
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[S1] ... opposite of enjoyment, right, is when you're stressed and anxious, you can't digest and you can't heal from what you've just- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... what's just happened to your body. And a lot of people, they come back from a vacation or holidays and they're so stressed and they're punishing themselves by doin...
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[S1] One of the things that people don't realize, that can be so healing to our body, not just our gut, but our entire body. [S2] Got it. Okay. What do we do day five? [S1] We're putting it all together. We're doing- [S2] All right, tell me what that means. [S1] All
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[S1] ... because oftentimes- [S2] Uh, yeah, me too. [S1] Yeah, because I, you know, like I felt after this week where the pants started out fitting at the beginning of the week and at the end of the week, I kid you not, I could not even button these pants and the pictures, I li- I do look like I am in my second trimest...
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[S1] ... was taking a probiotic. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Do you recommend that people take probiotics? Like what do you, what's your, and I realize that not all probiotics are created equally, but does taking a probiotic help if you're bloated? [S2] Yeah. I mean, okay. This is
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[S1] how I would think of it. In, um, our species in our gut is like the Amazon jungle. There's like thousands of different, you know, hundreds if not thousands of different spe- species in there. And when you get- [S2] Of probiotics? [S1] Of, of, of bacteria. Yeah. So a probiotic- [S2] Is probiotic the same thing as a...
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[S1] Yeah. So if a probiotic is a bacteria that you take by mouth, right? So- [S2] Okay. [S1] A probiotic might have, um, say hundreds of strains, right? But that's not even close to how many different, uh, different types of bacteria are in your gut. So what the problem with probiotics today is that if you threw seeds...
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[S1] Right? You just threw them. Not knowing what climate you were in, not knowing what the local kind of, uh, weather, soil was like. You know, some seedlings may come out of it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, if you got lucky. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But you don't know what you're doing. You're just throwing things at the wall an...
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[S1] So are you saying that probiotic food based on the research is a more effective way- [S2] Yes. [S1] ... to put healthy bacteria and to get your gut health in order, more healthy and effective than taking an oral probiotic?
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[S1] Absolutely. When we get to the place where I can say, "Mel, let me see the organisms that are in your gut right now, and let me produce a cocktail that's going to be complimentary to them." And then you're going to be like, "Oh, yeah, this, this definitely works." And that's why fecal transplants work so well. [S2...
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[S1] ... body to fecal trans- [S2] So, you know, we're talking about delivery of bacteria, right? So you can deliver them through a probiotic. [S1] Yep. [S2] You can deliver it in a food matrix, like, you know, here, serve it on a platter through a food matrix. [S1] Yep. [S2] So you're eating sauerkraut, and the bacter...
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[S1] You get it transplanted and placed into your colon through a colonoscopy. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Okay? And you let it sit there so it can kind of like, it's like adding soil. [S2] Right. [S1] You know? [S2] Yeah. [S1] You let it kind of fer- like, sit there, let it get incorporated. It can cure
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[S1] Yeah. What they did is they took the patients who had schizophrenia, and they took their gut bacteria and they put it into mice that didn't have their own gut bacteria so that they could see. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] What happens when we don't change anything in, at the animal's brain. We just give them the gut bacteria ...
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[S1] ... they exhibited the change in mental health. So, yeah, you're, you understand that that potential is there. So, when you ask me what's the best way to get bacteria into your gut, um, and I'm like, okay, probiotics- [S2] Well, actually- [S1] ... is a C, uh, you know, food based probiotic foods is a B, and the A ...
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[S1] You're basically saying is that the healthiest way to get a sample of live, healthy gut bacteria is when that live, healthy gut bacteria moves from the stomach down the intestines and out- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... somebody through the colon. And so we
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[S1] Obviously, no, that's fecal matter, but inside that is live, healthy bacteria and a healthy person. And what you're saying in terms of the emerging science is that that source of live, healthy bacteria, even if it's encased in something we all think is disgusting- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... that is actually the most e...
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[S1] You know, the, and to add on that, um, you know, one of the other ways to get healthy bacteria from other humans, you, you broke it down so, so nicely, um, because the best way to get healthy, good gut bacteria is from other humans. Um, it's just by spending time with other humans that you want to be like. [S2] Wa...
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[S1] Well, thank you for being here. And I just want to jump right in. [S2] Sure. [S1] Um, and just start with, I guess, some definitions. When you talk about the little voice in the back of your head, what does that even mean?
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[S1] Well, what was interesting about what you just said is you said this kind of question, what do I really think? What that little voice is saying to you is that I think some of us are so used to hearing that negative voice- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... that we don't realize that we could get to a point where we could think...
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[S1] ... to, "I'm always going to be like this." And if you are telling yourself that you're never going to find friends, you're not going to feel motivated to leave the house. You're, you're- [S2] Right. [S1] ... truly convincing yourself. And in a more pedestrian kind of example that we can all relate to is if you've...
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[S1] and you start to feel like, "Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna get back in shape again," or, "I don't have the willpower to eat healthy," all of that, that little voice- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... is instrumental in you not taking the actions that would change that situation. Is that why this is so imperative that we pay att...
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[S1] ... future. And this is the benefit of exploration, whether it's in therapy or it's reflecting about ourselves. It's much better done if we're writing or we're talking with someone of, "Hey, what's going on inside of me and how do I understand that?" But understand it so I can use it to my advantage, right? So tha...
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[S1] ... the thing that is most distressing to us. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So th- the broad brush part could, could be just saying, "Oh, I- I'm a loser," right? Or even sometimes we see ourselves in the third person, uh, "You're a loser. You'll never make it," right? "You're just not good enough," or, um, "No one's gonna wan...
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[S1] ... it is, it's so pervasive, right? So instead of arguing with it, the idea is to recognize it and reject it, right? [S2] How do you do that? [S1] So the broad brush is so important to realize because it will impact absolutely everything.
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[S1] ... tremendously impactful. And it, it can be, it can be addressed, it can be, it can be treated, but the, the, the most powerful negative lessons are sent to us in childhood because if we learn those lessons, we don't test them again. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So someone who learns, "I'm not good enough. No one will love...
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[S1] I have two things I'd love to dig into, um, listening to you explain all that. And the first one is this observation that I have that, you know, the, it's, it's just absolutely mesmerizing how complex and intelligent and incredible the human design is. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And it's always struck me as just so sad [LA...
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[S1] ... that is traumatic or dysregulated, you know, dysregulates your nervous system or sends you into a state of an alarm as a kid, that our default isn't, "Wow, these adults are kinda screwed up." It's, "There's something wrong with me." [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And that we aim it back at ourselves.
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[S1] ... children are trying to understand, right? Especially at the, the stage of life where there's so many connections forming and the, and the child is, is growing and learning about the world around them, that the child is trying to understand, but without the benefit of abstract thought. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And of ...
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[S1] ... of us, because we have the ability to do that. There's a brain function involved in abstract thought that's a complicated one. And when, and there's life experience too, to understand how people can act like this, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] We, we, we combine our life experience and our capacity for abstract thoug...
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[S1] ... self, which is why the, the lessons that we learn in childhood can be so, so difficult into the future because we, we don't have the capacity for the abstract thought, we don't have the life experience, so we attribute the negative things around us to ourselves. And, and this is where there's a, an English, uh...
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[S1] It, it comes along across time in childhood development, so there's no one stage where, "Oh, that comes online." [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But it starts off in very kind of minor ways and then grows w- with the ability for sort of full, abstract, uh, thinking. And, and if I could say something to, to what y- you had said ...
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[S1] It makes perfect sense. And it also applies to every relationship you have. [S2] Yes. [S1] Your friendships, your romantic partnerships, your family, all of it. Because if you can't regulate your own emotions or you're not aware of how your subconscious mind and this repetition that you're talking about,
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[S1] ... of this story you keep telling yourself at yourself, if you're not aware of that and what's trying to come to the surface, you're going to bring all that into every single interaction you have with any other human being. And so you're right. [S2] Right. [S1] It does start with you. I wanted to share with you b...
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[S1] And I want to read to you some of the responses of what the little voice was saying because I noticed they fell into kind of positive sort of coaching, nudging type voices. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And then, you know, the person with the sledgehammer in their mind. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You know, bullying them. So, you know,...
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[S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Can you talk a little bit about that sort of tenor and the content of the nudge versus that just almost like you're behind enemy lines beating yourself down? [S1] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, the, the positive voices, voices just need an ally.
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[S1] We need to be very, very attentive to nurturing the good things. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And to what are the negative things and where do they come from. So I'm very, very curious, where do those negative voices
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[S1] ... for that, right? How do I, how do I make myself the best that I can be, instead of beating up on myself? And we can bring that to others, this sense of humility, of humility and then active gratitude where we start to become unshackled from the past. I'm grateful that I'm here and doing the best I can. And so ...
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[S1] Um, it's like staring at a dark tunnel. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I'd love to have you speak to-
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[S1] ... fester, which is why the, the, the, what's called for, it's exactly the opposite. People will say, "Oh, I can't go talk about that because I'll start crying and I'll never stop." [S2] Yeah. [S1] We hear that. Nobody starts crying and then never stops, right? Or, "I'll just curl up in a fetal position, I'll nev...
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[S1] behind me, right? And it is also so that we do not drag around with us the weights of the past and say, "Why am I not going anywhere?" Right? Well, look at what you're dragging behind you. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And if you don't go and look at that, you know, then you, you will continue to not feel like you're moving ...
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[S1] And I noticed it, and that's what you're talking about going in. Like, oh, well, that's kinda weird. Why would I be trashing myself for sleeping in on a vacation? Why would I be making up a story that someone's mad at me? [S2] Right. [S1] Where does this connect? This is the little voice coming from the dark-ass, ...
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[S1] And in the kind of s- the, the range of, of, of kind of sexual abuse, uh, experiences that people could have, this would be down at like the one on a scale of zero to 10 in terms of how scary and awful, but still traumatizing. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And the next morning when I woke up, I hid under the covers until all ...
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[S1] And in my body had this experience that I had done something wrong and someone was going to be mad at me. [S2] Yes. [S1] And even though I had processed, quote, "that trauma in therapy,"
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[S1] ... that again, even though I thought, I thought I had it all figured out, it was one of those massive weights that I was dragging around in my life that was tied to that voice, "Someone's mad at you." [S2] Yes. [S1] And it wasn't until I saw that thread
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[S1] Right? So you're in fourth grade. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You woke up with something happening to you. So, so, so clearly you, it's hard, but the brain can do it anyway to make you responsible for it, right? And you weren't even awake, right? [S2] Correct. [S1] Yet, yet somehow, you know, this is how humans work, right?...
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[S1] ... a sense of shame and a sense of being at fault. And, and in part shame, it's a reflex to trauma, that it generates shame in us. So unless we look at that, wait a second, is this shame appropriate? Because sometimes, you know, we can do things we might feel a little ashamed of and then it, then we feel the sham...
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[S1] ... then. And the lessons of trauma that we learn as children, they may be false, but they're lessons nonetheless. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Right? And you learn that you may do things wrong. You're not even aware that they're wrong until you've done something wrong, and that you should feel ashamed about those things. Ri...
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[S1] Unless we look at it and make ourselves unlearn it, we don't automatically unlearn it. So all of the life experience since then, all of the achievements and education, personal, professional achievements, all of that that's been the case in your life, did it make that lesson go away? [S2] No. [S1] Right? Your brai...
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[S1] ... until you have that sort of aha moment and you realize, "Wait, this is still in me and it predisposes me to have this reflexive shame. And what did I do wrong?" All these years later, I think it's extremely powerful because, one, the genesis of it, how long it stays with you, impervious to all the other things...
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[S1] What's interesting is the more you repeat it, the more it becomes not, "Did I do something wrong or I must have," it, but, "I have." Like, it becomes the presumption. And I can see how this affected me, Dr. Conti, in social settings, always kind of feeling like on the outside looking in. Like, it just is in- [S2] ...
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[S1] hear this little voice and then do the deeper work to follow that thread to what the weight may be- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... that you can process from your past to free yourself. [S2] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think the starting place is always just a curiosity.
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[S1] ... go to therapy. I don't, I don't, I don't miss therapy unless there's no choice about it. I'm out, I'm out of town. I just simply have no, no two ways because even though I can help other people do this as a trained therapist, I can't do it for myself. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So, so when people think, I mean, I can d...
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[S1] Don't do this on your own because talking to a friend or a loved one about the, the little voice in your head and how you see the dots starting to connect can provide you the insight and self-awareness that you really deserve. [S2] Mm-hmm. Yes. [S1] Um, th- [S2] Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. [S1] Is there anything ...
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[S1] ... Oh, since that breakup two months ago, every time they go out, they're kinda like this. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And their friends see that, right? But maybe people haven't talked about it and, and...
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[S1] ... Good news. Because if you- [S2] I do think- [S1] Yeah, because if you're, if you have a level of patience that you bring to this process, you're giving it room to work. And I will share personally, that even just identifying,
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[S1] ... the fact that this was a reflexive- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... habit of mine, to tell myself someone's mad at me. Even just identifying it. Like, "Oh, there it is again. Oh, interesting. Oh, wow, there it is again. Oh, how, how could the person in front of me in the line at the coffee shop be mad at me? I haven't s...
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[S1] Pick something for the year that you want to master and become a student of it, then execute. That's my advice. [S2] Good advice. Amy, an entrepreneur from Chicago, says, "There's so much doom and gloom in the news right now, and sometimes it really gets to me. How can I maintain the optimism needed to stay motiva...
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[S1] ... to grow your business. And here's the way that I, um, think about this. Number one, first of all, you have done the hardest part, which is having the self-awareness that you're doing it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So that's a really important thing because procrastination, when it comes to things that you need to do or...
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[S1] But you are probably, unless you're somebody that does your best work at night and you get that kind of night owl thing, you will be better suited to think about how to get sleep, which you need so that when you wake up tomorrow and you have zone one, you actually know what to do with it. [S2] That's good. [S1] An...
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[S1] Because we think a partner will solve all our problems. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Let me tell you something. The wrong partner will create more problems. And you want to tread very carefully in this area. Because we way too quickly turn over authority
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[S1] And what ends up happening is that the right person, as you are hiring an expertise, will start to appear and act like a partner. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Now, that's for an existing business. If you're starting a business, it's great to start with a partner, 'cause then it's not as lonely. Um, but if you have an existin...
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[S1] Because you do need to step away. The research is also very clear that you'll come up with your best ideas when you are away from your business. You will come up with your best ideas when you're taking a bath. You'll come up with your best ideas when you're outside, taking a walk without your phone- [S2] So true. ...
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