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[S1] And I want everyone to do this. [S2] Okay. [S1] And you're able to remember all 10. All right. I want you to imagine you're coming to my office. It's in, in the suburbs. And you can actually just breathe. And if you can, close your eyes just to help you to focus, if it's safe to do so as you're listening. And ther...
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[S1] It's a glass building. Let's say you're coming to take a, a speed reading class with us. I'm gonna name ten places along this journey to get to that classroom. And what we're gonna do is take the ten keys for a limitless brain, and we're gonna imagine those, each of those keys in, in each of those places. [S2] Oka...
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[S1] parking lot. And that's their verbal memory. I want you to see it, and then we're gonna feel it and, and, uh, get it in our body. So the parking lot, when you get out of the parking lot, it's, you're gonna be reminded you need a good brain diet. And how you do that, pretend you're eight years old and use your imag...
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[S1] Even if you can't imagine, again, imagine you can imagine it, see it, feel it, taste it. All right, so from there, there's a waterfall, it creates like a moat around the, uh, the building, and so you have to cross a bridge. So the second place is the bridge. So what's the second place? [S2] Bridge. [S1] Bridge. Th...
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[S1] It takes more time to say it than actually do, to see it. And as you're stepping on it, you would never do that, but it's just, you can't forget it. You go into the building, the third place, you get into the elevator. What's the third place? [S2] Elevator. [S1] Elevator, great. And then, third brain tip, exercise...
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[S1] ... hallway. And these are brain nutrients, all the nootropics, right? So I want you to imagine you're tripping and falling on bottles of ginkgo, of creatine, of curcumin, of lion's mane mushroom. [S2] Okay. [S1] Right? And you're just tripping on it. You're like Donkey Kong or Lara Croft. You're jumping over thes...
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[S1] ... closet. And inside, you want to remember your positive peer group. So all of your happy friends are in the closet. They're celebrating, they're cheering, big surprise party. Happy friends, positive peer group. Maybe we're doing a mastermind. [S2] Okay. [S1] Right? You get out, and it's the sixth place is the r...
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[S1] The receptionist is cleaning the environment. [S2] Okay. [S1] Waxing, vacuuming, dusting, everything is clean. Behind the receptionist is the seventh place, which is the fish tank. What's the seventh place? [S2] Fish tank. [S1] Fish tank. Everyone say fish tank, and then the seventh tip, sleep. So imagine Nemo, Do...
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[S1] ... is a closet. [S2] Our friends. Our friends are in there. [S1] Yeah. All the happy friends in your positive peer group. Then you go to the receptionist and what's the activity they're doing? [S2] Uh, the receptionist is cleaning. [S1] Cleaning. Clean your environment. And behind the receptionist is a fish tank ...
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[S1] What were you doing? Like, what made you go, "Okay." [S2] Um, oh, I was kind of a mess as a child. I was... [laughs] Unfortunately, I, I really was kind of a mess. [S1] Well, fortunately for the rest of us, because I think it's one of the reasons why you have so much compassion and passion to serve.
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[S1] feeling so happy, and I'm thinking, "Well, maybe he's just happy because he's losing weight." [S2] Yeah. [S1] Makes everybody feel better that, you know, "Oh, I'm succeeding at losing weight. Isn't that great?"
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[S1] So we have long known that there are bio-psychosocial causes for mental illness. So that means neurotransmitters, hormones, genetics play a role. Stress and trauma play a role. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Loneliness, addiction.
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[S1] You now call this the brain energy theory. [S2] I do. [S1] And explain that so that anybody listening can understand what the brain energy theory is. [S2] So in a nutshell, it says that mental disorders are metabolic disorders affecting the brain. [S1] What does metabolic mean?
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[S1] So those things are true, but the reality is metabolism is so much more than that. Metabolism is a fundamental part of all living organisms. So in the simplest terms- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... I would say metabolism is taking food and oxygen and some other things like vitamins and nutrients,
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[S1] and turning those things into energy or building blocks that are used to maintain or grow cells. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] It's humans eating and drinking and breathing in oxygen and breathing out carbon dioxide. Those are foundational to metabolism. But in fact, they play a role in every cell within our body. They play a...
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[S1] I want to be able to explain this. So when you use that big word, metabolic, what are you referring to in the body and how can we understand it at a simple way? [S2] So in many ways, metabolism is ridiculously complicated. [S1] [LAUGHS] I was afraid you were going to say that. [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] Great. And I appreciate you being willing to help those of us that are not planning on getting a PhD in this- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... to actually understand the word metabolic. [S2] Yes. [S1] Because it's input process and then how it changes your body. But I like visuals and I know you have a really good one.
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[S1] So the, the easiest way to help people at least understand the complexity of metabolism. [S2] Okay. [S1] Is, is like traffic in the city. And so if I ask you what controls traffic in the city or what are all of the factors that play a role in whether there are traffic jams or no traffic jams,
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[S1] Accidents. [S2] Everything you said is true. So on one level, it's complex, right? [S1] Yes. [S2] It's really complicated. But if we really want to get to the heart of what causes traffic accidents and what causes traffic jams, we also want to think about what's controlling all of these cars. At the end of the day...
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[S1] Our age, all of those things play a role in metabolism. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But if you really look foundationally in a scientific way, it, well, what's really at the heart of it, it's these tiny things in our cells called mitochondria. [S2] Okay. [S1] And they are actually foundational to metabolism. They are a part...
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[S1] Wow. I want to go back to the analogy, 'cause I was with you, and I'm like, okay, the drivers- [S2] Did I lose you? [S1] The drivers are the power. The drivers. Okay, the drivers. And then if you now take that analogy, and we talk about metabolism, are the drivers in your metabolism your cells, or are they somethi...
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[S1] So mitochondria, for people who've had like high school biology, they probably remember mitochondria. [S2] I had high school biology. [S1] You don't remember? [S2] I do not remember. [S1] That's okay. [S2] Yes, okay. [S1] That's okay.
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[S1] But in many ways, the cutting edge research part of it is that they're also playing a role in hormone production. [S2] Oh. [S1] Things like cortisol, estrogen, and testosterone. The first step in the synthesis of those hormones occurs within mitochondria. Mitochondria play a role in producing and regulating neurot...
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[S1] But here's the thing. [S2] Okay. [S1] They're also affected by psychological and social factors. Trauma and stress affect our mitochondrial function, which then ends up affecting our metabolism, which then ends up making us, or putting us at higher risk for developing a wide variety of mental illnesses
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[S1] All the way from PTSD, to depression, to anxiety, to ADHD, to bipolar, to schizophrenia. People with serious adverse childhood experiences. So horrible childhood. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Trauma, abuse. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] They're at higher risk for developing essentially all of the mental illnesses. But guess what else th...
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[S1] So profound metabolic issue would be s- serious obesity. [S2] Yep. [S1] Type two diabetes. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] History of a heart attack, history of metabolic syndrome or current symptoms of metabolic syndrome, which include high blood pressure, insulin resistance, um, bad lipids. We're looking at two, two
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[S1] biomarkers in particular, which are low HDL cholesterol. [S2] Okay. [S1] Which is the quote unquote good cholesterol. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So if you have low levels, that's bad. And then high triglycerides. So if triglycerides are really, really high, that is a bad sign as well.
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[S1] It's actually sometimes very overwhelming and humbling. And, uh, every now and then I'm, like, waiting to wake up from, [LAUGHS] from, from my grandiose dream. Um- [S2] What is your dream? [S1] My dream is to help people who are suffering from mental illness who aren't getting better with current treatments. And t...
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[S1] ... that is not doing well in school. The parents are tearing their hair out trying to understand what do we need to do to help this kid. We've already tried 10 pills. He's in weekly therapy. Nothing's working. Everybody's blaming and shaming the parents. [S2] Right. [S1] The, the parents are clearly messing up. I...
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[S1] That sounds like a long time, honestly. [S2] It is. [S1] Two to five years of a, but what is it? Like, 'cause you guys say keto this, keto that, keto ketosis or whatever the hell the words are. What is the keto, like, what am I eating? Walk me through a day of being on the keto diet.
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[S1] So the keto diet in a nutshell is very low in carbohydrates, moderate in protein, and high in fat. So what you would eat if you were doing a ketogenic diet, again, there, there, I wanna even set the stage. There are vegan versions of a ketogenic diet. [S2] Okay. [S1] Vegetarian versions.
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[S1] ... omnivore versions where you're eating both animal source and plant source foods. [S2] Okay. [S1] And even carnivore versions of this diet where all you're eating is meat and eggs and stuff like that. [S2] Okay. So this is very inclusive, everybody. But let's just say you and I are going to breakfast, lunch, an...
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[S1] So what I might eat, if I were eating a ketogenic diet, I am an omnivore. I eat both animal source and plant source foods. I would wake up and I might have eggs and bacon or sausage or some kind of meat. [S2] Let's go. [S1] I might- [S2] Sounds like Sunday brunch, Dr. Palmer.
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[S1] I might add extra butter. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] If I need more fat, I might add extra butter to the eggs. So some people might look at me making my eggs, thinking, "Why are you putting all that butter in your scrambled eggs?" And I would say, "Because I need the extra fat."
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[S1] For lunch, I would probably, and for lunch and dinner, similar meals, I would probably have a protein source. So that could be steak, chicken, salmon, poultry. [S2] Yep. [S1] Um,
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[S1] And I would have low-carb vegetables. [S2] Okay. [S1] So that could include broccoli, spinach, any kind of lettuces, um, cauliflower, c- cucumbers, pickles, things like that. [S2] Great. Okay. [S1] I would take my pick.
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[S1] When I prepared those vegetables, I would put extra sources of fat on those vegetables. So I would put olive oil and plain vinegar, so that might be my- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... kind of serving. I might emphasize nuts and avocados because those are very high in fat, um, and typically thought of as healthy sources of ...
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[S1] And nonetheless, there's this thing called the keto adaptation phase or keto flu. So the first week or two in particular can be very rough. I'm just gonna let people know. It, people can feel weak, hungry, hangry, dizzy, irritable, other things. [S2] Really? Why? [S1] Because they are with, they're, they're basica...
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[S1] So the first thing that most people will start to feel is an antidepressant effect. And so they will start to notice that they just feel lighter, they have a little more energy, their brain starts working a little better. [S2] Oh. [S1] Some people might notice that their sleep
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[S1] Some people will notice if you're a power lifter, for instance, or a weight lifter, you will notice a decline in your ability to lift weights for about two months. [S2] Huh. [S1] And it will come back. For people using this for mental health, it's usually not a lifelong diet. [S2] What? [S1] A lot of people will d...
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[S1] they actually reinvigorate their metabolism or most importantly, what that means to me is that it's, they're improving their mitochondrial health. [S2] Yep. [S1] And that actually can then persist so that you've actually done some healing work on your body. And so that if you go back to a whole food, still a healt...
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[S1] But if they go, if they start adding back carbohydrates, even complex carbohydrates, whole grains or potatoes and other things. [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] Um, they may do extraordinarily well. And again, I wanna be clear, I don't necessarily recommend the ketogenic diet for everyone. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Not everybody needs i...
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[S1] Some people can just get rid of the junk food and the processed foods. Um, some people can just get rid of the extra sugar in their diet and do spectacularly well. So they might do well on a paleo diet or, um- [S2] Whole 30. [S1] Uh, whole food, whole 30, or a vegetarian or vegan whole food plant-based diet. There...
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[S1] who have more confidence, who have energy, who have motivation. Those traits are essential to human survival. We need those people. But when you take somebody who has a good dose of those traits- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... and puts them in a classroom- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... and says, "Sit still and read for five hours."
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[S1] The easiest way to explain it is that there are going to be some brain regions that are overactive and some brain regions that are underactive. [S2] Okay. [S1] So brain regions that help people focus and concentrate are likely going to be underactive. Meaning that if we compare them to the brains of people who are...
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[S1] So most people would get a full kind of diagnostic interview and work up. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so we're gonna look for any other comorbid disorders like depression, anxiety, other things. [S2] Why would those be comorbid? [S1] Be, so those are very commonly comorbid actually.
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[S1] Is it showing up because of metabolic reasons? [S2] It, it almost certainly is. [S1] What does that mean? Like I, 'cause as a busy mom, like I didn't, I was diagnosed late in life like most women. And I was diagnosed as a result of having my son go through the testing process because he was labeled a problem kid i...
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[S1] ... that are not getting enough food and oxygen. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] They are not going to have enough energy, and they are more likely to malfunction or not function optimally. [S2] So if I can attempt to translate this, you're basically saying that with an ADHD diagnosis, which means that there are parts of my bra...
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[S1] So stimulants are increasing a neurotransmitter called dopamine, and that dopamine is actually increasing brain metabolism in those conductor regions of your brain. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So, so when you take a stimulant- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... you're, you're, you're taking these underactive brain regions or this conduct...
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[S1] You are stimulating them, which means stimulating their metabolism, which means giving them more energy so that they work more robustly. [S2] So the drugs that are prescribed for ADHD are just increasing my brain metabolism? [S1] Absolutely. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] But most people don't think of it that way. [S2] I don...
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[S1] And I want people to think about it differently. I want people to think about it as correcting a brain metabolism problem. The reason is not because I am against stimulants. It's not because I'm against effective therapies and treatments. If somebody is taking a stimulant and it is working well for them- [S2] Mm-h...
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[S1] Oh. [S2] And now that- [S1] And plus, a lot of them impact your appetite. [S2] Yes. [S1] And so if you're not actually fueling your body, that also impacts your brain metabolism and the metabolism in your body. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can see my reaction, which is basically my jaw is kinda hanging ...
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[S1] They're not getting the message that there is a problem with your brain metabolism, honey, and this is something we can address. It's not your fault. Your brain metabolism isn't working right. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And the evidence for that is your inability to sit still and pay attention and do all these other things...
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[S1] Are you referring to somebody who might be on the autism spectrum? [S2] Yes. [S1] So what will happen though if you improve a person who has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum and has, uh, difficulty making social connection or reading social cues, what will happen though if you improve their metabolism?
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[S1] ... two weeks ago, 10% will go on to develop schizophrenia. [S2] Wow. [S1] People with autism have essentially higher rates of all of the mental health conditions. So although we may not be able to change their social skills- [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] And those differences are going to be difficult, if not impossible, to change, and we shouldn't expect to change them. [S2] I would imagine if you achieve a reduction of feelings of depression or bouts of anxiety, that, though, makes somebody feel remarkably better, even if they're not connecting socially with peo...
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[S1] The end of the day, in a very practical, concrete way. [S2] Yeah. [S1] To someone like you, I would first, I would first ask the question, do you really want a chain?
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[S1] But I don't want to have to exercise like that every morning, but it's easier to take a- [S2] No. Well, and, and again- [S1] I, I just-
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[S1] your success so that you can become a mediocre human being. [S2] [LAUGHS] What? Doctor Palmer. [S1] We, we don't want that. [S2] Wow. [S1] So- [S2] Well, I'm on the other side of it. So let's also, like, put into context, I'm now 55 and I have been utilizing medication
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[S1] research supported breakthroughs in terms of what you would tell somebody listening to implement immediately if they or somebody that they love is in the category of really kind of struggling with a brain that is not metabolizing correctly and it's showing up as ADHD. [S2] So if the symptoms are clearly interferin...
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[S1] If it's a child, let's say not doing well in school at all, getting very poor grades, getting into trouble all the time, has trouble keeping friends even. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Because friends feel like he's too wild, he's out of control, he doesn't sit still, he's always getting into trouble, I wanna stay away from h...
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[S1] feels like he's a troublemaker, 'cause all the teachers are telling him that. [S2] Or a weirdo. [S1] Or a weirdo. And all the kids, uh, all the other kids are even agreeing. And, and certainly if the, the parents and the family feel the same way, um, like you're just a troublemaker, why can't you sit still? Why do...
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[S1] So we have all of the basic treatment options still on the table. Psychotherapy, behavioral interventions, cognitive behavioral therapy, all those things, and stimulants and a couple of other medications. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Those are all on the table, and those may all play a role. But again, they may or may not wo...
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[S1] Let's do a common sense assessment of some basic lifestyle factors. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Let's look at diet. Is the person eating mostly processed foods? Is the person getting adequate nutrition? So that means adequate vitamins, minerals, other nutrients, adequate protein. Is that happening? Yes or no?
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[S1] Like you said, there can be lots of reasons. [S2] Right. [S1] Picky eater. [S2] Right. [S1] Upset stomach. All, I get it. I, I can hear all those questions, but if those things are not happening, if person is not getting adequate healthy nutrition, that needs to be on the table as one possible intervention of some...
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[S1] So, depends on the person and different people are gonna do better with different diets. I just wanna say that up front. [S2] Okay. [S1] I also wanna be respectful of people's dietary preferences and choices. So if you wanna be vegan or vegetarian or omnivore or whatever, you can do that. However, there are some c...
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[S1] ... kind of neurodiversity- [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] ... that's really interfering with life. Um, if maybe they have ADHD and they're a little bit on the spectrum and they've got some learning disorder issues and other things, you know, one thing to consider would be an elimination diet. There are lots of different types...
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[S1] And when that happens, you start to have these symptoms of being neurodiver- divergent. Is that what you're saying? [S2] Yes. [S1] So if you are allergic to gluten and you're eating gluten, it could cause ADHD symptoms. It could cause anxiety. It could cause you to feel depressed. And simply figuring that out coul...
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Of course it is. [S1] Of course it is. [S2] And that's causing you to be anxious. And so think about sensitivity to food and the way that your body can't really metabolize it as affecting absolutely everything, but especially
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