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[S1] You're sitting here. [S2] No, no, no. I, I literally thought you were going to. That is, that is so kind. And everyone who's requested me or has connected with my work or has liked a video, read a book, or listened to a podcast, thank you. Thank you so much. That, that honestly is, wow. That is incredible. Thank y...
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[S1] So I think everyone's very lucky that they get to have you every single week in their life. And, you know, as our friendships developed and blossomed, it's been so wonderful getting to know you better, to getting to know Chris better, and I'm just so grateful that you're doing this. I'm so grateful that I get to d...
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[S1] Thank you so much. [S2] You're welcome. I have to share one other funny thing with you. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Because when you go to the forum and you're, you, you know, kind of tell your story or submit a topic or you submit an expert, when you submit an expert at Mel Robbins.com for this podcast, we actually ask, w...
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[S1] And I want you to hear what somebody said. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You ready? They said, "Oh, please." We all know who Jay is. He's our favorite author. He's a former monk. A remarkable podcast with the number one health podcast in the world. He's been giving really amazing talks about love and relationship, and curren...
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[S1] ... monk, is so useful in everyday life. [S2] Wow. [S1] So people not only love you, but for those of you who may not know Jay's work or have ever met him, I want you to know he is the number one New York Times best-selling author of Think Like a Monk. He is an award-winning podcast host. The, the show which you n...
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[S1] But my relationship's great and I feel good. And I started to recognize that the quality of love in our lives, the love we're able to share and receive from others defined the quality of our entire lives. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And so what else is there to write about if not love? Because I think it's one of the most u...
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[S1] Well, it's really interesting because the research shows that when we're young, because our prefrontal cortex hasn't yet fully developed- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... we see love as a feeling. And as we get older, when our prefrontal cortex is more evolved, we actually are able to use self-control and reasoning in our feel...
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[S1] When you respect their values and when you're committed to helping them achieve their goals. [S2] Wait, there was something missing there. What about, like, attraction? What about, you know, I really, I mean, I realize there's a difference between lust and love. [S1] Yes. [S2] And connection and chemistry. [S1] Ye...
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[S1] Absolutely, absolutely it does and I- [S2] But that's my definition. [S1] No, no, no, that's your def- [S2] I'm more shallow than the monk. [S1] ... that's your definition stops. That's a, no. Uh, that is a given and I, and I fully agree with that. I'm, I'm-
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[S1] I use my language very carefully in the second one, respecting their values. What I often find in relationships is that we want people to value what we value- [S2] Right. [S1] ... equally to how we value it. So if I value sports, I want you to love sports and adore sports as much as I do. If I value my career and ...
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[S1] Okay, so I wanna, um, stop right there because you've already dropped a bunch of, like, amazing wisdom bombs on us all. And just make sure that everybody got what you just said. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So the three things, first of all, it strikes me that in an amazing close friendship, those three things are present to...
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[S1] And one of the things I loved about your new book is that this is really about love, period, in your life. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And thinking about love as a skill and how to both let it in and let it out and, and give and receive. And I also just got something from you that I wanna acknowledge.
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[S1] ... that this is probably an Achilles heel of mine. And in the example that you just shared, I just realized something that I am not doing with my husband, Chris. So you talked about the example of other people saying to your wife, "Rati, you should open a restaurant. You should open a," and I could see that 'caus...
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[S1] Right? [S2] Maybe I'm getting- [S1] Yeah, and then you feel the pressure. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I think often in relationships, we either want our partners to change, so we're pressuring them to change because we don't respect their values, we want them to conform to ours, right? And so then the resentment builds. Or yo...
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[S1] Because I'm afraid that he's going to get very busy and that's going to impact our family life negatively. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] That is my fear. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] I haven't even sat down with him to have the conversation, "What's your goal?" [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And instead of being afraid of it or trying to manipulate ...
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[S1] That means you're saying that the day they changed their mind, you're now immediately unlovable. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And so you're deciding whether you're lovable or not based on whether someone else thinks you're worthy of love. And I think that that sets us up for a lot of pain, a lot of stress, a lot of pressure....
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[S1] And that word is loneliness. I'm lonely. I feel alone. It's been a lonely day. It's been a lonely year. I'm experiencing loneliness. [S2] Right. [S1] But we never use the other word. And the other word is solitude. It's just not used in our vocabulary. And he says that loneliness is the weakness of being alone. An...
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[S1] Well, this is going to sound like a dumb question, but I have to ask it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] How the hell do you figure out what you like? [S2] [LAUGHS] So, yeah, it's a good question. [S1] No, I'm not. I'm, I'm serious. Like, if you've always been somebody- [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, so let's, let's role play. [S2] No, no, ...
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[S1] I don't know who I, I like, how do I find love? Like how to coach me. [S2] So, so first mistake, and I would, I wouldn't say this in a coaching session, but to speed it up for us, first mistake, you're already thinking it's about what do you like about the partner. I'm saying what do you like about yourself. [S1] ...
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[S1] back in our lives. [S2] Because we never took that time to reflect, because it was always about them. We make it about them. So give me, I'll give you a relation- [S1] Well, I love, okay, so stop. [S2] Yes. [S1] I want to make sure everybody just heard that. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] ... guaranteed. The second thing is, you're more likely to be dependent on that person because you think they're out of your league, and so now you'll become, do, mold, fold, become anything they want, they want you to be. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And the third is, you're going to be scared to leave them because being wi...
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[S1] So can we talk about that? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Because, you know, I know that you were in business school when you first heard a monk speak at the age of 18, and you felt the call to become a monk. And did you meet Radhi before you became a monk, or how did you guys meet?
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[S1] And what was really interesting about that is I think the monks became my first male role models. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I was looking for them to validate me. Now, the interesting thing when you're trying to get validated by monks is they don't validate you. They're just trying to teach you the truth. And so that'...
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[S1] You have this younger self meditation. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Would you be willing to just walk us through that meditation for just even a minute of what that is like? [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] for someone to say this. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And then the wisdom was, please say this to me every day. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And that whole thing that you said about showering yourself with love, and, you know, one of the things I want to point about, point out about your book,
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[S1] And one of the other places that I want to go, Jay, because I think there are so many people that struggle with the beginning stages of love. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And we were joking earlier about lust versus love and chemistry versus true connection. And in your research, you talk about
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[S1] ... the need for us to define love- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... for ourselves before we think about it, we feel it, and that we have to know the four phases of love. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So you can walk us through, like, these four phases of love. [S2] Yeah, absolutely. So- [S1] And I wanna try to figure out which one you'...
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[S1] And what you forget in that moment is that you signed up to your contract of the word love, but they signed up to their contract of the word love. If their love meant, "I like this right now,"- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... that's what they meant when they said, "I love you." And if you said, "I love you," and that meant...
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[S1] And so the first one is attraction, as we said. [S2] Right. [S1] You have an attraction, you get excited. [S2] There's a spark. [S1] There's a spark. There could be something there. Now, if there isn't a spark on the other side, that withers away, it's- [S2] Can we just draw- [S1] Oh. [S2] ... right there. [S1] Ye...
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[S1] 'Cause I think especially, and again, mother of daughters. [S2] Yes. [S1] And a son, but, um, I'm more worried about it with our daughters. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] The attraction piece seems to flood everybody's ability to think. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And ha, what are like the red flags that this is the, "I love you tonight, ...
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[S1] Yeah, so, what's really interesting about the way I see red flags is, I think a lot of people think red flags are things that other people show you. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And for me, it's more about how strong your radar is and what you're looking for. [S2] Okay. [S1] Because people just think, "Oh, someone's just gon...
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[S1] You are giving them qualities that they've never shown you. [S2] Give me an example. [S1] I'll give you an example. If someone is attractive, you assume they must be trustworthy. If someone is smart or they went to a good school, you assume they must be organized at home.
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[S1] ... to be that they're kind all the time. Another red flag is something called the context effect. So studies show that if you're holding a warm drink while on a date with someone, you're more likely to have warm feelings towards them. [S2] Really? [S1] Really. We're that biologically simple. The context effect al...
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[S1] Yeah. So the first thing that I'd, I'd look at is, is that person responding at the pace you're responding? [S2] Oh. [S1] Right? Is that person responding at the pace you're responding, or are you constantly having to force play games? Are you spending a lot of time in? So what's really interesting about what you'...
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[S1] ... the stress decreases. [S2] Yes. [S1] And comfort increases. So we think the spark's gone, but actually you've just become more comfortable in their presence. Now, how does this answer your question? The way it answers your question is the idea that you can't control your hormones. You are going to go through t...
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[S1] ... to be thoughtful, to be mindful, and slow things down. And that's the number one thing I can say. Slow it down. You will make better decisions when you actually take time to see the other person, but take time to reflect. [S2] Mm. [S1] That you message them, but then you also take time, again, to slow down and...
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[S1] One of the things that I wanna really focus on next, because Jay unpacks the four phases of attraction, dreams, struggle, and trust- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... in the book, is I think my favorite rule, honestly, of all eight, is number four. Your partner is your guru. [S2] I thought it would be. When you said your favo...
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[S1] Will you explain what that means? 'Cause I think when you first hear, "Your partner is your guru," I didn't realize what it meant. [S2] Yeah. [S1] 'Cause it didn't mean what I thought it meant. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] And I want to encourage people to understand that this step comes as you deepen a relationship. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] This isn't something you want on day one. Like if anyone's listening to that rule and you don't read the book and you're thinking, "Oh, yeah, my partner's my business mentor," or, "They're my coach," o...
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[S1] ... they reflect the truth back to you just by being present with you so that you can see yourself. And so a guru isn't a partner who's telling you what to do or manipulating and controlling you because that's ownership, that's not a relationship. And I think people- [S2] Ooh, ooh, hold on. Hold on, everybody. [S1...
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[S1] You just said that when somebody's controlling you, and when somebody is, I would even add in nitpicking, criticizing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Manipulating, judging, uh, being cold with you, silent treatment.
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[S1] So, talk to that person- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... and this notion of partnership versus ownership. [S2] Yeah, absolutely. And so,
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[S1] In how to talk to anyone. [S2] Right. [S1] And so what we do is we compare them to someone else, thinking that if they know what one of our friends did for their anniversary, then our partner will get their act together. [S2] Yeah. [S1] No one in the history of comparison has ever changed their life
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[S1] Is someone giving you care in the way you want to better you, or are they doing it to make you more comfortable and convenient for them? Are they telling you what to wear? Are they telling you which of your friends are a good influence on you? [S2] Oh. [S1] When you hear that, you think, "Oh, they might actually c...
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[S1] And it applies the other way too, Mel. I think a lot of us who are in personal growth, who are in self-development, we have a bad habit of wanting to improve our partners, but not in the way they want, in the way we want. The amount of people that come to me and say, "J, I'm like really begging my partner to read ...
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[S1] Maybe that's what they need to do. Maybe they don't even need to learn from me. Maybe they need to learn from a completely different person and maybe it's one of our friends. Maybe it's someone else. Maybe it's someone from decades ago. The, the point is, are you trying to get them to the next step in their journe...
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[S1] Yeah, yeah, no, it's beautiful. You do it so well. You do it so well. [S2] I just want everybody listening to get the wisdom that you are weaving together because I think that's it right there. Are you trying to get them to step forward? You said it better. Something about like your- [S1] Yeah, I'm saying-
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[S1] I'll give an example. There's, there's a, a couple that I know, and one of them finds knowledge and learning to be what growth means to them. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And one of them finds service. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So one of them will happily go to a soup kitchen, a homeless shelter, and help out every week. And to them...
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[S1] Yes, and I think you also have to be present enough to know when someone that you quote, love, is pushing you off your path. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] That you're busy supporting them on theirs. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But they are not meeting you. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Halfway. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Now, one thing I am gonna disagree with...
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[S1] ... episode. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] To a person that you're in a relationship with because I think it provides a tremendous amount of things to talk about. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And it might not be the same things that you think you wanna talk about, but, you know, in closing, Jay, I just, you know, there's one more thing I...
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[S1] I just keep thinking about this idea that the whole purpose of your relationship is to help your partner achieve their goals. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And if you're in a relationship where you are focused on their goals and they are focused on yours, that is true partnership. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Because you're showing up
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[S1] In a way that somebody really feels honored and seen and heard and supported, and you will feel the exact same way. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And it's so simple, and we make it so complicated. And so I want to ask you one final thing. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, you know, I was, I obviously were friends, but I did research befo...
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[S1] When the, when, even when we're doing an agnostic wedding, the idea is that you start meditating and praying for the couple from the moment you're asked. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So the journey doesn't start on the day when you turn up. It starts from the moment you're asked and requested to do that. So I usually start m...
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[S1] ... will help them fall in love with themselves. And that what I see in them, they'll see in themselves. And that what I don't see in them, they'll discover within themselves. And so I think whether it's marriage, whether it's moving in, whether it's a long-term relationship, that's what I'd have to say. [S2] Beau...
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[S1] ... and start noticing all the love that is there in your life. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And you'll start feeling and finding the one that isn't. Because you are loved by your brother, sister, family, child, dog, cat. Like you, you are loved. You're loved by Mel and me. You, you are loved. And if we start noticing how lo...
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[S1] and I love you and I'm just grateful to be here for you. [S2] Wow. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Okay. [S1] Just that. [S2] I think the episode's over now. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Now we gotta go back in time because, you know, I think one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on is because the entire mission of this show is to...
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