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Uh-huh. and so, I went to Hawaii and then to Australia and Japan and China, Uh-huh. Did you go on the Barrier did you see the Great Barrier Reef and, and go snorkeling? I, I, actually I didn't go diving. Uh-huh. I, I'm a diver and so, that's, that's actually been another of my favorite vacations has been taking little ...
Australia. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh, but, Did you have shrimp? I've seen in, you know, they, they show all this wonderful seafood and, and great big prawns, you know the big shrimp and, I don't remember if I had shrimp. No? Didn't have shrimp there huh I don't think so. I remember food Oh, I like that too. But, uh, in fact...
Oh you're adventurous. You went by yourself. Uh-huh. Really. And I was by myself in China too. Really? Yeah. Oh wow. China was a little bit more, uh, of a challenge. But, it, it wasn't more of a challenge in a sense because I hired a guide all the time, Uh-huh. and so I never, you know, got out by myself, or not much, ...
You're kidding! No kidding! Uh-huh. because I was already in Hong Kong and, um, but it only cost you about a thousand dollars to go there and I went to Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu and actually then I took a train up from Shanghai to a little, Quingdao I think is the name of it. It's a little, uh, sort of getaway retreat...
Yeah. Yeah. And I stayed, I didn't stay in the top of the line hotels but I stayed in, they were all completely clean, Uh-huh. and, you know, they were newly built and they were sort of the lower end of the top of the line, hotels, because they said you can't stay in the cheap stuff. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, and you don't w...
I highly recommend that way to go. If you're ever interested in going the route, I dealt with this woman, her name was Rita at China Tours in Boston Oh really. Yeah. Uh, and a friend of mine who had gone for a business trip to China and she just gave me this woman's name to contact and it would really be fun, I think i...
and, you know, I don't want to see them ban guns completely Yeah. but I don't want them to completely turn loose of their controls either so, Yeah. Well I, I feel that its, uh, I think the what was National Rifle Association, uh, had this bumper sticker a few years back if, uh, about if you outlaw guns, only outlaws wi...
So. There was a an article in the paper just this week where I think it's, uh, one of the gun companies, I can't remember which, was developing a ten metal, ten millimeter automatic pistol for the F B I which would give them additional firepower. Um. It had, held like a fifteen shot clip, which, uh, would be able, they...
but you had to have this card, it was like a driver's license card that you had to have it in order to buy ammunition Um. and that was the first, uh, this was twenty years ago. Yeah. But they had that so that they were trying to control it a little bit in that respect. See in California they, In California they make y...
We lived in Tennessee for awhile and I bought a pistol there and there was a fifteen day waiting period. You had to fill out an application and, go down to the sheriff's office and get fingerprinted Uh-huh. and, then you had fifteen days while they checked to see if you had any kind of criminal record before that you c...
You know, I think if we kind of stiffen them up a little bit, course, I, I feel kind of weird about that anyway, I think if somebody shoots somebody, they ought to be shot. Yeah, I'm, So. We, we're getting into capital punishment now Yeah, but, you know. But I, I agree with you there that, uh, It would definitely be gu...
Myself. Yeah. Well and they're actually a necessity in life, you know. Oh yes. They're not, you know, not everybody needs a gun but sooner or later I need one. You know, whether I'm out hunting or you know, I'm never had to protect my life or, Yeah. well I did in the service but not, you know, not on the street so I do...
and I enjoyed my guns. Yeah. I have a good time with them so, Well I know what, uh, I took my kids out and taught them out, how to shoot a gun. My wife the same thing, uh, she knows how to shoot any weapon that we have not that I have an arsenal or anything, Yeah. but we have several guns around the house one of these ...
Yeah. I had to explain that to my, I've got a six year old now and he, you know, I have a fifteen year old and a seventeen year old, well they understand now. Yeah. You know I've taken time to teach them and now the young boy wants to know and, you know, like I told him, you're a little bit young for a gun. Let me go o...
and he took me out with him and, uh, single shot twenty-two, and taught me how to shoot. Uh-huh. We went squirrel hunting and, and, uh, he taught me how to shoot, uh, a old single shot twenty-two All right. and, I was probably about twelve at the time, Uh-huh. and I thought that was the neatest thing and, of course Unc...
I think so. Okay. Well it's been real nice talking with you. All right, have a good one. Okay, bye. Bye-bye Do you have children? Uh, yes, yes, I have a daughter. Do you. Yeah. How old is she? She's only about, uh, uh, a little less than two years old. Uh, I guess you have not reached the stage where you need to, uh, p...
but that's all. Yeah So, do you, is there, are you planning to, like, encourage your children to go to a particular school? Uh, no, uh, um, no particular school. Uh, I think that's really a decision that, That you are going to let them make. They, well, help them make in terms of, you know, what they are, they are want...
Oh. Was that local or, uh, Uh, well, it was, well, it was within the state. Uh-huh. But it, it was not necessarily local, it was, Yeah. But I, I mean, so what's, , What's the criterion for choosing to go there? Yeah. Uh, well, at the time, I was, uh, thinking of going pre med Uh-huh. and in the state, uh, they had the ...
uh, I enjoyed it. So you, did you commute everyday then or, No. Oh, okay. No, no, it was a six hour drive. Oh, okay, when you said it was quite a, quite a way away, I did not know it that meant you had to drive like an hour or, I was, uh, it was like another world. Uh-huh. Basically, it was a, no it was a, did not get ...
So, did you go there, like, straight out of high school? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, see I did not get my degree until later on, so I just finished mine a couple of years ago. Uh-huh. And, uh, you know, I guess, you know, when you have to do it that way, it makes, makes your choices a lot easier but, Uh, that's true. Yeah, that, t...
which group do you work in in T I? Um, uh, the computer science center. Oh, uh, where is that at? Uh, north building. I see. How long do you work for T I? Uh, about three years. Did you work somewhere else, like sounds like you got your master's before here or, Uh, yeah, I have, uh, uh, no actually, I mean I came strai...
My undergraduate degree was not in, not in what my master's was. I see. So I made a career change basically. Uh-huh. I see. Well, let's see I, have not you know, there's a lot of pluses and minuses for different schools, you know, just like you said. Uh, depending on what they want to specialize in and what you can aff...
And, uh, I liked it almost as well. Uh-huh. Uh, but, uh, you know, that, I'm not going to hold them to that just because I went there. Right. I, you know, think that's Yeah. If they want to, that's fine, but otherwise not. Although I uh, would get quite a break on, on tuition Yeah. Um, because you went there. Yeah, bec...
Uh, and it was kind of fun, because you are trying to to, trying to get people interested in your school, you know. Uh-huh. And they were, this was a college night at a, at a high school in Richardson. And it was, Uh-huh. And there were a bunch of kids, you know, and a bunch of schools. There were a hundred schools, pr...
That worked out so well. Yeah. So did you drum up any interest then I think so. I don't know offhand but, uh, it seemed like there were quite a few kids that were definitely interested in going there. Uh-huh. So, there, There was one mother who, uh, came by right, even, before we started, who, who obviously was, uh, v...
Yeah it sounds like it. Yes. Well you know I think Richardson is probably you know one of the places that would definitely Okay, well the topic is selecting care for the elderly. Uh-huh. And I don't have elderly parents, yet but not that far in the distant future. What about yourself? Well, my parents are both in their...
They are. Have you looked at any homes for them or talked to them about that? Not for them, my, my mother and stepfather have, have, uh, set up an arrangement where they have a large home and, uh, two of my sisters and, and their families, one of them's husband and then all the children are living in this home. Its got...
and they make their crafts and sell them at a big fair that's held annually at a big mall here Right. You know, so there are a lot of, a lot of activities going on all the time and this is a nursing home, it's not a senior citizens home. So that the people are really, uh, Really in need of a nursing home. Right. They n...
And that, I think is what is scary, and I also feel that that's where some of the bad images of nursing homes come from. Is when people have to put people in a nursing homes and they really can not afford the best. Right. And that's right, I, well I took my husband one night to an emergency room when he was in an emerg...
Right. and then they could have done that well at home. And then she was upset, he had on two different shoes, one of which was not even his. He had on a pair, of slacks, Oh. and the wife said "these are not his slacks" and she said "I just took two pair over yesterday for him that were clean." And, You hear these stor...
they revived the man and cleared out his airway and so forth, and he was definitely, just by looking at him and the way he acted, you could tell he was in need of, of nursing home care, but the family were all talking about, uh, putting him in another home. They said he will not go back to that one. Well, good. Good, I...
Uh-huh. Like this was a really neat vital woman and you get in a nursing home and the first thing that happens you have to share your, your whole living space, with someone that you have never known before in your life. Right. Right. And oh I, I do not know what the answer is, but I do know that there are some wonderfu...
Visit, right. And, uh, hopefully, they would have, they would have it so that you could go there anytime. Right. Because if you could not go there anytime, then that would make you, a little bit Suspicious. right. You know, I, I, my, I remember my, my grandmother many years ago when she was in a nursing home before she...
Uh-huh. and, uh, I thank God every day that I have the resources that we have tapped into. Now, is he the elementary school? He's in elementary school. Uh-huh. And he's not severely learning disabled. Uh-huh. I mean, you know, he just, He's being helped. But he is being helped. He, he was in resource from second grade ...
It is something new, and basically what they do is they start right from the beginning relearning the sounds of letters. Oh. Um, I think I read about that in the paper. It's wonderful. Doctor Haggard is, is heading that up. Yes, and it's wonderful. He didn't have a problem with reading. As a matter of fact, he's readin...
And, and so it's, you know, it's not an intelligence problem. It's just a problem with learning. Has, has he had this since kindergarten, or is this something that maybe learning phonetics, and then he just didn't learn the right way? Well, you know, it's funny. When, um, when he was in first grade, he had trouble with...
Right. Well, second grade it was, I will, these teachers as far as I'm concerned are absolute saints, because in second grade, it was about the second week of school, I went up there, and I, I requested a conference and, because all year long they kept telling me I was crazy. Good, good, that's great for parents to be ...
We think there's a learning disability and we think he needs to be tested immediately, because, you know, once the first report card comes in, they, have all these people being tested, Huh. and she said, I think we can get him real fast. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And sure enough, they tested him and, you know, he qualified for, ...
That's true. So, because, that's something you can do by just enrichment types of things in the home That's true. Uh-huh. but learning disability, unless you are schooled in the types of things and ways to help a child like that, then it makes it real difficult Uh-huh. and this is, this to me is the benefit I see in pu...
I work a nine ten school, and we get students that come in that have been kicked out of the, uh, parochial and and, uh, private schools Uh-huh. and, uh, they come in and their attitude is, "I'm a bad boy," and proceed to prove it. Really, really. So I, I really hate that for them. I, I, would rather they not have that ...
No. and they, can do whatever they want. That's right, they can be selective, right. And they they, that's right, they have the ability to be selective. But you can't say then, well, public schools are, are not as good. Right. Perhaps they are, because they're, they're, If you choose the select top group out of the pub...
and if they don't, then when they reach a certain age, they just, that's the end of their schooling. Uh-huh. And, and, uh, they don't ever really go on. It's only their top ones that go on, like ours do. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, and, uh, so that, that creates a problem. And, and you can't compare, because they go so many m...
but on the other hand, I feel like my children, who are kind of middle of the road, have, are more rounded, you know. Better coping skills. Yes. Sure, sure, I think it's real important to have friends. I think it's real important to play sports. I think it's real important to be part of a team. Right. And so that's why...
Um. Okay? Yes. Well, this is a very timely topic inasmuch as we're going to a family reunion this weekend. Oh are you really? Yeah. Where is it going to be? Down at Lake Texoma lodge. Oh. Yes, this is one that's, uh, the Baker family reunion Uh-huh. and this has been going on at least, uh, I would say, at least twenty-...
and in fact it used to be at Lake Brownwood, and now it's Lake Texoma, because that's more central location for people from Oklahoma and Texas to come to. Uh-huh. I'm sure location's really important as far as figuring out where one ought to be. Very important, because, uh, you'll start losing people if it's too far to...
but now they, uh, have a golf tournament on the Saturday. Um. And then they have generally a show or an auction or something on Saturday night to help raise funds to cover the costs of such. Oh, that's a neat idea. Yeah, and, uh, everyone, uh, they get the community building there at Lake Texoma lodge, and everyone bri...
Oh. I just have one aunt and my family. So sometimes when these other families get together, they're really pulling in aunts and uncles and grandkids, Yeah. and we're kind of off on the sidelines. But it does remind us that we have family and roots. Right. So we keep going even though we're not a real big part of it. Y...
and they organize a baseball game for the kids Uh-huh. and several people bring boats, and there's a place they, they take the kids up to the lodge and go swimming up there in the afternoon, so it it's a full day. So there's lots to do. Some of the people come down on Friday afternoon and spend the whole weekend, Uh-hu...
Yeah, my side of the family is from back in Ohio and West Virginia, and I think we've been to one in thirty-five years or something like that, so, That's just too far away. Oh. Yeah, yeah that, that is a problem with the distance. The people that we have that don't come are out El Paso way Yeah. and it's just too much ...
each year, of course, they elect officers of the family reunion Uh-huh. and a number of years ago, back in the early eighties, my wife was president. We discovered how much work it is just to organize and get it together. And it takes a lot of planning, and assembling of stuff. Uh-huh. And choose, some place that eve...
Yeah, and it's, it's good for kids to know that they have other family. Yeah, and this year they're all excited. The show this weekend, this weekend's going to be a rock and roll show Oh, boy. my two grandsons and one of their cousins are, are going to dress up and lip sing to a rock song you know, in jeans and t-shirt...
Yeah, well, Oh, that generally happens. And, they do it as a labor of love. Yeah. So, the officer idea is a good idea. Yeah, well we've, uh, had various things over the years, uh, to raise funds for it Uh-huh. and again, it's not, it's not cheap to rent the lodge up there or the meeting room down in the cabins and su...
Uh-huh. Okay. Well, thanks a lot I enjoyed talking to you. Bye. Been nice talking to you. Bye. Okay. All right. Well, I am, uh, the product of, uh, I think as much the changing roles of women as anyone, my mother, uh, we come from a, my mother and I were, uh, really, first generation divorce in our family. Yes. My, uh,...
and also, uh, uh, uh, we were, uh, ostracized by his family, uh, basically just, you know, uh, we just kind of dropped off the face of the earth. Uh-huh. Right. And, they all felt that there was never an issue that my father was the, was the cause of the reason for the split up, even though he had impregnated another w...
I was I was first generation going to college in my family. Uh-huh. Uh, first, my mother had always had a quote career, but always a career as a, uh, uh, in a secretarial position. She did rise to the highest position that a woman could rise to in a secretarial profession in Des Moines, Iowa. That's, that's wonderful. ...
and I am the director of music in a church. Um, and but it's interestingly enough, I am still, everyday, confronted with, Challenges. Absolutely. Uh-huh. Challenges that have to do with my sex. Right. Uh, for instance, uh, well, you know, I am just not taken as seriously, you know, at professions, as many of the as man...
Uh-huh. uh, I think it's, it's the image that the woman has and, uh, in the world, as, uh, the lesser of the two. Uh-huh. Oh, always. And, uh, I think things are changing, but the changing is taking a long time longer than we would like it to, like it to take. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think we are progressing at a snail's pa...
So we have to, uh, face that reality also. I have never been able to figure out why they can not ever change, why they can not bend. I mean, why they can not just accept, you know, competent women, I, I have never been able to understand that. I guess it's fear I mean what , It could be, if they are they are not sure o...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think our problems would be fewer, if we supported each other. And just looked at each other as equals and none lesser, because we are equal. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Men have a lot of trouble with that though. Uh-huh. They, in their, in their own peer relationships, they do not treat themselv...
and I am the, you know, and I am the slave. uh-huh. And it, those are the only, only issues we ever fight about. I think it's just, I think it's just difficult for men to, uh, to accept women equally, even if they want to, they are more comfortable when somebody is the boss Uh, dictator, dictatorships are real efficien...
Uh-huh. Can you picture that? Uh-huh. I mean, if your husband did that to you, and you did that to your husband, you would always be trying to please each other and not yourself. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's true. And, uh, that's really the, the divine answer, and, and the right answer Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, uh, uh, that wo...
Um, I don't, I am only twenty-eight and I haven't had much experience with nursing homes. I don't, I have never visited any of them and, uh, I don't think I've ever even been in one. Have you? Um, actually I have, um, I've, I've been in them but, um, just visiting and, uh, we used to when we were like in, in our teen a...
He, he has, he's recently retired and so he's the one who she moved in with when she had a stroke and, and all the other children are working or whatever. Uh-huh. They're all my parents age. And, uh, so he's got, you know, his retirement though is really twenty-four hours a day. They have a day care two days a week. Th...
and is that how your parents feel or, Um, well, see it's more my grandma that feels that way. Uh-huh. She says that when her husband died that he said, oh, that my uncle had said that he would never put her in a rest home. So it's kind of, uh, I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't think my parents would but she is get...
I'm not really, really experienced but like I said I just have that one family, and I just really feel bad for the guy who his whole life is different now and, than he thought it would be. But, When he retired? Yeah, and he's got, you know, seven brothers and sisters and, and, uh, he's the one because he's the one that...
It's my fiancee's so I don't, I can't say much. Uh-huh. But I always feel like I would never put my parents in either and I wonder, I'm going to be the only sibling that isn't going to have children so if my parents do need to live with someone, it will probably be with me because all my brothers and sisters will be ha...
This country kind of takes the worst care of the elderly of any other country. You think? I, I I'm not really familiar with how other countries, And, It's really more of a, um, like a respect issue that the older, older people in other countries that I've been to seem to really have a lot more respect for the elderly p...
Uh-huh. I know. And so it's a, it's kind of a depressing topic though. How old are you? Um, I'm twenty. So it is, yeah, and it must be rough for you too to see your grandmother. Yeah, it's, it really is but, and she, she drives us Why don't you go ahead and say what you feel, and then I'll respond. All right. Well, I'm...
Well, we've been here since January, so we, we still feel very new, Well, but, uh it's working up to a year now, Yeah. so, I guess we're old timers compared to some people. Yeah, I think that's a good excuse. You need to get into the the system a little more and know where to take things. Right. Yeah. We've been here p...
Uh-huh. and then we usually save up our cans and, and change them in for money. Well, where do you do that, because we've been saving cans for my daughter's choir um, Uh-huh. but I didn't know where to take them. Um, there's a place on Parker Road, um, it's just over the overpass before you get like to K-Mart. I think ...
I, it seems like ever since we've moved here we've been hearing that, you know it's coming in a couple of months, Yeah, and, I think it's been delayed. but I think it was originally scheduled for February, but the trucks that were supposed to do it, there's been some problems with from what I've read in, you know, the ...
they fill up the whole kitchen garbage can Right. so, I'll be glad when the bins do come, and I think that's when I'll, I'll start doing the plastic, too. Yeah, it was real easy with the bins, it really was, it was just no effort at all, um, no more trouble than taking out the garbage, so, um, Yeah. I've gotten used to...
and it would be like two dollars but since last time we've gotten more like a dollar. Yeah. So it's gone down. Yeah Yeah, which is understandable, I think, more people are are recycling. Right. Yeah. That's something we, we don't really make any effort to, and whatever pop we drink, we used to take the boys out for a b...
Oh. but. Well, I'll have to keep myself and, and get on it. My neighbor across the street, um, is so careful about recycling, and so I keep telling myself, I'll, I'll get it organized, but, may, maybe they'll beat me and, and do the city wide first. Well, hopefully the bins will be here in this month and that will spur...
or do we, Um, yeah, you can do it as long as you want. They, you know, if it's been long enough, five minutes is, is when they cut in and say, say, we don't have any more room for recording You can't chat all day, huh So we can say good-bye now. Okay. It was good talking to you, and maybe we'll get on line again. Okay....
Oh, I used to have box turtles, um, well, years ago, when I was growing up Yeah, I, I really like them. Oh, yeah, I do, too. Lucky and Spot, that's their names Oh. and they live in an aquarium without water in my family room, and my dog thinks he's a mother turtle, and always has his nose all around my turtle box, so d...
I guess they're distantly related to a poodle, but they're not very well known in this country, and they're not, um, high strung or over bred um. Oh. And how big do they get. Ours is, uh, on the small end, and she's about ten pounds, and they range from probably ten to sixteen pounds Oh, that's interesting. and they lo...
Oh. now he wants a, a good size dog Uh-huh, well, we've got a good size dog, and we were considering getting a puppy, a small house, lap top dog for him, because he likes other animals and for me, because we used to have a miniature Dachshund, and I miss having a little one you know, around. Oh. Yeah. The kind you have...
Bichon Frise. Okay. I'm writing it out phonetically, Yeah. They're, uh, and they don't shed so they're, they're good dogs for people with, with allergies, Yes, and they love people, and they're, Do they bark a lot? Um, no, not really. Ours, um, ours barks more than, um, than some, because she spent a lot of time at our...
and, uh, now it's funny. She's, she's a good watch dog Uh-huh. and if there's, she'll bark that way, but she also talks a lot, she um, has a definite personality Yes. and so, if we're leaving her, she barks at us, because she doesn't want to be left. Um. Oh. Does she ever mess in the house? No, no, and they're, um, the...
and, And about how much are they? Well, they range, I'd noticed up here they're a lot more expensive it seemed to me from the ads in the paper. They run anywhere from two hundred to four hundred dollars, I think which I thought was a lot. And how about the, And how about the person in, uh, Houston? Well, she's no longe...
and it's very expensive. Yeah, um, but she might have some contacts here, I know I know that the dog's grandmother, um, was from Plano, Oh, that's where I live, Oh, that's where I live, too. Yeah, I'm at Coit and Legacy ... So, what do you think about it? Well, I found it interesting that they started off with a proble...
That's interesting. I was, I was wondering what your response would be. I'm a first generation American. Okay. So I'm, from immigrant parents Or an immigrant mother anyway. Uh, where did you come from? Okay. Okay, so where did your parents come from? Uh, Poland. Okay. And, And that was, you know, prior to World War Two...
Yep. Uh-huh. But what do you think, are you from Texas or, I'm from Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Okay. Yeah. Well, that will be interesting. Right, and, uh, a lot of, Because we have just, had a Naturalization Act where the Mexicans that were residents in Texas, I'm from Texas and have become citizens now. Uh-huh. Yeah....
Well, I agree with it wholeheartedly. Uh-huh. The only thing is I've got to share with you, my background is from New Jersey. Uh-huh. So, when you were giving your answer I was thinking, is this a Texan I'm talking to? No, okay. Because Texan philosophy is a little different. Right. Well, a lot of the experience that I...
Oh, well, then you have first in the experience on immigration. Yeah. Well, that is interesting. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I wonder, you know, even with those that were involved with Tienamen's Square. Right. You know, did we really protect them? Yeah, that's, and I think that's pretty crazy, because I mean those students wh...
What do you think about that? Um, And these are not the brightest. See, these are refujees, you mean? I mean we we're talking boat people. Okay. Right, okay. We have a lot of boat people in Texas. Right. Well, um, I don't have any problem with that. Um, You're a true liberal heart-to-heart. Good for you. Yeah, I guess ...
Uh-huh. um, interesting, my, when my daughter was in high school, one of the custodians was Vietnamese Yeah. and with his limited English they found out, you know, that, she was in student council, and they found out that he was a medical doctor, All right, so, we started recording already? Uh, I guess, I don't know. I...
So it's mostly all novels? Yeah, they're all novels. Okay. I'll read some, uh, classic, too. Oh, like what? Uh, like THE GRADUATE by Steinbeck. I'll, uh, Yeah, I like that. I like Steinbeck a lot. A, A ROSE FAMILY by Faulkner. That's one of my favorites. I have never read a lot of Faulkner. Oh, and this, this is more o...
Uh, I, let's see. What kind of books do you like to read? Uh, well, a bunch of stuff, I guess, uh, fair number of novels, but mostly shorter ones. And, like, I don't really like the, you know, six hundred page long Stephen King novels and all that. I really have to be in the mood. Right? I, I read one, like maybe once ...
Okay. So that's, anyway, and, uh, I read a lot of non fiction books, too. Uh, let's see, I like to read a lot of non fiction history when Civil War era and, and that kind of thing. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I found that real interesting. I'm reading THE LION AND THE WIND right now. And that was on T V. Now what's that? It was, u...
Uh-huh. What, how crazy? Well, just like some, one quote that he had was that he thought the America's emblem was stupid because it was an eagle, and it should be a grizzly bear because Oh, you, you know, like the grizzly and stuff like that. So it's, I saw the movie and that's what made me want to read the book. Uh-hu...
Like, let's see, and even like reading some new age things, things that I don't quite believe in, like here on my shelf I have a book called JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY. Yeah, I think that, It's all about how to have out of body experiences and all that. I'm fascinated by that. Yeah, I'm fascinated by that. Uh-huh, yep. T...
Right, definitely Uh, And I like to read, uh, I like to read some self help books like, uh, I read DIANETICS once, once I got past all the gibberish on it. Uh, did you like it? It was okay. It, it, it, it took me a while to really get into it. It, it didn't help me that much Uh-huh. I see. But, uh, I think once you're ...
Okay, you want to go ahead and tell me your favorite team, or who you think will be doing well this year. Uh, well, where I'm from the Atlantic coast conference is a very big conference and, course, we have Duke University that was the national champions last year, so I'm kind of hoping that they'll repeat again this y...
Do you like professional basketball? Uh, I, I follow it especially around the playoffs, so, course, I was real familiar with the Utah Jazz, and the Mailman or Karl Malone was, you know, pretty big thing and, the Lakers have always been amazing to watch. Yeah. I, I did keep track a little bit of the Mavericks. They've n...
Yeah, they, coming out of it this year. We'll see if it's held on. But, I think Chicago will probably with the N B A again. The Bulls? Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. They'll probably be pretty good. Course, the Celtics are always really, really good, too, with their players. That's true. Be interesting to see how the Olympics doe...
and we need to talk about baseball and so, Yeah, oh, my Atlanta Braves. Well, Well, I really do, uh, you know, the basketball season's supposed to start in the next couple of weeks. It's, yeah, yeah. It's a long season. It is, it is, and that's why I've, I guess my mind went blank. It's like last season was so long ago...
It's a little early. We definitely will. Okay, it's good talking to you. Good to talk to you. All righty, bye. Bye-bye. Uh, I guess my personal opinion, I, I don't mind paying taxes necessarily. I, I just sometimes wonder if our money is being used in the best way. Right. Uh, sometimes when I hear what, what they're, e...
Yeah. And I, I, I tend to agree with that Yeah. I'm not really into what they're doing per se, Yeah. and I think there's just too many, too many levels of bureaucracy. I think it can be, can be managed by less, uh, less levels. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know any time there's, there's a big, uh, budget cut, you know, I work w...