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Yeah, I married your cousin's brother's uncle or something like that. Do you, I mean, is that since, I mean do you have them every year? Uh, yeah, every year. And, uh, still, you wind up meeting people you, uh, you never knew you were related to. Let alone Yeah. And, Well, I think that is probably why our is probably s...
Uh-huh. Yeah, we know how that goes. Uh, with lots of kids you don't have lots of money for recreation. That's right. Well, that's fun. So, um, let's see, uh, some of the things we do together as a family, we like to play games a lot, and you may think this is funny, but one of our funnest games we like to play togethe...
and We get an occasional one or two day thing Oh. but most of them are going and seeing Grandma and Grandpa. Oh, now where do they live? In Arizona. Oh, so that's a bit of a drive for you there. Yes. Oh, so you like to go there for the holidays and. Oh, we don't go very often for holidays. Generally we try to get all o...
We have, ours start at twelve and then they go down to four. I think the hardest thing for us has been, is to find you know, leisure time activities that all of our kids can enjoy together with the age span that we have, you know, I bet, yeah. like the older kids love playing board games and that kind of thing Uh-huh. ...
Um, do you feel that the current trend in families spending time together is a positive one or a negative one? I think it's improving, actually. Uh-huh. We had an interesting experience the other day. We, we have pretty much a, a routine that we spend, we don't have our kids play with other kids on Sunday Uh-huh. and w...
I think it's gone to one extreme where the families were just running all different direction Uh-huh. and I think more people are interested in spending time with their kids now. I think so, and I feel like, you know, like President Bush, Bush has mentioned quite often, that we are trying to become a kinder and gentler...
You feel like you're in the minority? Oh, definitely. When we tell people how many kids we have they look at us like we didn't have good sense. Oh, dear But, uh. Well, out here in Utah, five is about the the average, Average. yeah. My wife and I were in Utah until I guess we were about twenty-four. Oh. Uh-huh. Never be...
Well, uh, no, I'm trying, Aberdeen? Huh. Is, is that close to Dallas? I don't have any idea. I've never heard of it. Oh. Must be a little town. Don't you. It's, I guess it's out there, clear out. They have a ranch that has like five hundred acres, and, Yeah. Okay, Martin, do you do any exercise? Yes, I do. Uh, I like t...
Um, so those are more or less indoor sports. How's the weather out there in Georgia? Yeah. Um, in, in, in the winter, you, typically it's, it's probably too cold to go out and do things like tennis. Um, I like to play tennis in the summer time or in the spring, fall, Uh-huh. but in the winter it gets pretty cold. Oh. U...
Right. Do you do, uh, any anaerobic type, weight lifting or weight training type exercise? No, huh-uh. I, first of all I'd like to get my weight off. I'm about fifty pounds overweight, and so I'd like to get the weight off, and then I'd really like to get into that. Uh-huh. And, uh, we have a, my husband and I have a, ...
but it's like low impact aerobics, just with weights. Uh-huh. Yes. Okay, are you familiar with, um, step or bench aerobics? Um, no, I mean, yes, I am, but I have never done it myself. Have you done that? Uh, yes, I have. In, in Atlanta that's, um, most of the health clubs are all, Oh. that's the, that's the in thing. ...
So how is that? Um, it, they call it a low impact aerobics, and it's supposed to burn off more calories at the same time. Oh. And from when I've done it, it does give you a good, a real good workout. But only thing I'm concerned about is potential for injury to your knees you know, that and movement of going up on the ...
Oh, that's good. Well that sounds, you sound just like my husband. He he injured his ankle about seven months ago playing volleyball, Yeah. and, oh, he's just had a heck of a time getting that ankle healthy. Yeah, I. So that's what he does, he wears his, his brace and his high tops and, Uh-huh. Yeah, I did, I injured m...
Oh. But, um, so how, how successful is your exercise video? It is amazing how fast you take off the inches Uh-huh. and I would, once I start my I'd like to do the forty-five minutes a day on the bike for a week, and then, every other day I'd like to incorporate the video, and then the bike on the other day. Uh-huh. But...
I really enjoy that, so I'm looking forward to losing this weight and being firm and healthy Uh-huh. So, in the winter, I guess, there's a lot of, it's quite cold and snow. Yes. Yes. Now this one has been quite mild. Um, we could have been out walking throughout the whole winter, because really we only had about three ...
Yeah. Um, okay, Bill, we're talking about family reunions. Right. Okay, um, have you ever had to plan a family reunion? Uh, yes and no, it wasn't really a a planning one, but it was kind of, uh, it was a birthday Oh. and I brought a lot of family together then. Uh-huh. And how did you feel it went? It went pretty good....
Um, oh, let's see what else. Usually when we have kind of our family reunion it's my grandmother's birthday, and and it's all of like, she, she comes from a big family. Uh-huh. She has like seven sisters I think. Oh, boy They show up and all their kids. And then all, she has, uh, I have like, uh, let's see, she has fou...
Oh. Uh-huh. And, uh, each one of the, everybody that showed up donated some money for the rent and for, for like soft drinks and and so nobody like really got stuck with the bill. Oh. Oh, that's good. And each person in the family, you know, brought a dish, or something. Uh-huh, and then did you have a main meal, or di...
Oh. Now how old is she? Uh, she's eighty-six. Oh, goodness. Is she pretty spry, is she, you know, pretty. Now she does, she looks probably like she's in her early sixties Oh, wow. and if she didn't have arthritis, she'd get around better than me as a matter of fact Uh-huh. Oh. Oh, that's neat, that she's in good health...
we sent out five hundred, uh, announcements, because our family is quite large, like your, your family there. And so that was a real challenge, and I was president of our family reunion for two years, and I wasn't very at that duty, for two years in a row, but I found that advance planning was the key to success. Uh, a...
We are Uh, my immediate family, you know, my, my parents and my brothers and sisters, I guess we're the ones that have the gypsy blood or whatever, because my dad was in the Army and we're we're pretty strung out all over. Oh. But since they've moved back to Carolinas, we still are the only ones do not live in in Yants...
I got out as soon as I graduated. Yeah. Oh. Just like this town is too small for me, Good-bye. Oh, you're ready to move on to How do you feel about gun control? Well, uh, I mean I don't think that guns should be outlawed Um. but it's going to, a lot of the stuff that, I mean all you do is to get guns and then like with...
But, it's kind of like if you want a gun you can get a gun, especially if you have the money to pay for it. Uh, in most States as long as you aren't a convicted felon. You know or on probation or, uh, you know, other obvious things like that. Yeah. Uh, and I know, I know that like in a lot of states you could, you coul...
the amount of violent crime has decreased by so much. It has? Because then, Well I mean yeah. The, uh, the in comparing per capita murders are incredibly lower than the United States. Um. Uh, you know, I mean, the problem though, you know, they, if the, since the United States had this, you know, pretty much unrestrict...
but. Do you own a gun? No. I've thought about getting one. If I get one, I think I will probably, you know, get something. I probably wouldn't get a hand gun. I would probably get like a shotgun. Just for protecting myself. You know, from burglar type thing. Uh-huh. I do kind of live in the downtown area. Yeah. You kno...
You can sort of point it somewhere in the direction of you know whoever. Yeah. You pretty much stop them. And, you don't, then the actual shot doesn't go that far, you know, a wall will stop it pretty much. and, uh, my Dad gave me a gun Uh-huh. but I never did go out and practice with it enough to feel comfortable with...
And you know, you're pretty much dead you know. Because you, you've just told the person that you, you're about to kill them then, You know Uh-huh. Set them off. and, and, well I mean, you, you basically made it clear to the person that you know unless he, unless, you know that you are a real danger to them and then y...
So, Julie, how do you feel about AIDS research? I think we need, we definitely need more of it, definitely. I'd agree, too, but, I mean, it seems like it just makes economic sense in that, you know, uh, you know, it would have made even better economic sense to, to, to have had a lot more research than a longer ago. Oh...
Um, well, that's, but that's why they should have started doing stuff before. I mean, still, you know, since it's dormant for such a long time, there's still probably a lot of people, you know, before the tests ever really came out who are, who are draining a lot of money right now. You know, Yeah. I think a lot of it ...
Yes? Uh, do you think, you mean, do you actually think we're doing enough right now to, No, I really don't. I did, I did like a research kind of thing on AIDS research and stuff, and, uh, really we're not doing much at all, I mean, most of what gets raised, I mean, it's not really federal movement, most of what gets ra...
I, I, I don't know what the likelihood of that is, but, I mean, you know, people really waking up. Uh-huh. Especially with the ultra conservatives move our, our political system sort of seems to be taking. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I would probably agree with that. Yeah so, Uh, so do, do you think it's more important to spend mo...
Uh-huh. and that, and, uh, I don't know, I guess I think that, that, uh, research is, I guess the most important, just because I, you know, it, it really needs to come to an end. You know. Uh-huh. I don't know. I don't know, Fish. What do you think about that subject? I think it's, I think it stands a really interestin...
And then we'll see what happens when, uh, they're not funded quite as much. Or supplied with arms the same way. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, but on the same token, you know, Israel has lost a lot of their, you know, value to the U S in being, you know, the foothold of capitalism. You know in, in the Mideast. Uh-huh. Well, I, w...
Oh, you don't think they got the codes from the U S already? The U S would claim that they would have not given them to them. I see. I mean, of course, you know, public statements can be taken for, That's true. They can, yet they, Uh-huh. Yeah. Well what do what about this situation with the, you know, the, uh, continu...
Uh-huh. I mean I'm not, not saying at all that Hussein wasn't quite willing to enter that fight. Right. But, you know, I think, I think that, that, um, we chose to have our official feelings hurt. Uh-huh. Where a lot Well, do you think that, uh, we should ignore it and just allowed him to go ahead and, uh, you know, mo...
No. Um, you know, over, over the, uh, over, over what, what probably won't accomplish him, accomplish much for him politically. No, it doesn't look like we're getting ready to do, to do much more in there. Uh-huh. Even at this point. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well what about, uh, do you have any, any views on, uh, Israel's relatio...
Uh, they had been doing it, they started first in Sarasota City. Uh, you know, which makes up a pretty small portion of the county actually. Uh-huh. Yeah. And, uh, they've got these, I don't know what, if you're familiar with Sarasota county at all. Not quite, no. They've got these, it's, it's county wide program now. ...
Do they require you to presort it? Yeah. Okay. See that's something in Minneapolis they're really strict on. In terms of you got to put everything in its own little bag and really presort it really, you know, tightly. But when I lived in Orlando, it's like you could put almost anything in there Uh-huh. and they'd just ...
Oh, okay, yeah. Okay. And, uh, and, and she's just Shaklee crazy, you know, because it's her business and everything. And, uh, you know, and she asked, we were talking one day and, and she asked me a couple of questions, you know. And she, and, and what she said that, that generally, the problems that people have with ...
If you have yard trash, you put your yard trash in some kind of container. Uh, or you can have bundles up to a certain weight, and certain dimensions, tie them up and put them by the curb. Yeah, you got to tie them up and everything. Well, the plastic, cans and glass, they give you this little tub and it's about a foo...
yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, up here, they give you one, one of those containers and you put everything in it. Uh-huh. So it's like, if, if you use a lot of stuff, you, it's like well you know, if you're a partying kind of guy and you drink, you know, like a couple of twelve packs, maybe, over the weekend it's goin...
they've got these large garbage cans that you can rent from the waste management company here. Uh, if you want to have a nice garbage can, you know. Yeah. And it's on wheels and it's big. Oh, you can actually rent those? Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah Yeah up here the, the city provides them. Kind of like, I thin...
Uh-huh. And Sarasota is on the west coast? Yeah. Okay. Like south of Tampa, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm, Yeah. About an hour. About an hour south of Tampa Yeah, that's, Okay. Uh, yeah, well. I listen to this talk radio station down here and it's really, they, I don't if you ever listen to talk radio but those guys, they ju...
Yeah. But they get into some really good conversations sometimes, you know. And some of it, sometimes it's serious and they have some good feedback and all that stuff and from listening to that, I kind of got an idea that I thought would be good with Yeah. and this kind of fits into the, uh, the aid program, the welfar...
and I don't know, I don't know how much the stuff actually, what they actually have in there but I know they use that, I mean they sell those, Huh. Well what about, uh, required drug testing, uh, as a, uh, condition of employment? Yeah, that was, that, that was the other one I was thinking of I think that's, uh, I mean...
and yet, uh, a lot of these large corporations such as Texas Instruments, although they don't admit to it, it's actually, oh, a drug testing policy comes about as a result of government pressure. Uh-huh. So what that means is, to me, that really it's the government that's requiring this, although they don't actually ex...
I guess it kind of borders on where, I mean what do you value more. The invasion of, uh, the person's privacy or the possible danger to, you know, other people. So really, it gets to balancing, uh, personal freedom against, uh, the general welfare of society. Yeah. I guess that's that's been the big role of government,...
Maybe chop their weenies off. Yeah. I guess, uh, uh, it's an easy one for me. I think that's, uh, there's something seriously wrong, yeah. What is it that you are, you know, particularly upset about? Uh, I guess, uh, I think they've lost their compass and, uh, I'm not sure they know exactly what, uh, uh, public educati...
and, and, consequently, they're not so motivated to get involved and make sure things happen the way they'd like to see them happen? Yeah. The immediacy just isn't there. Uh-huh. And, uh, uh, I also think that one of the problems and, actually, I don't think this, I think this is a cultural problem. The, uh, problem wi...
and you've got to have a certain level of education to do the reading and the critical thinking involved to come up with a decision. Yeah. You know, I, I believe that the original idea of public education in the United States, which I guess was controversial at the time of the constitution. Uh, you know, it barely made...
Yeah, I think that one's significant. That's what I used to think education was all about when I was a college professor and then I quit and got disabused of that notion But, uh, the, uh, uh, now the only thing people seem to agree on is that education is, uh, an economic enterprise to train people for jobs. And, uh, I...
Yeah . Oh, you laugh. How many, what ages? Well, twenty-seven up. Uh. And we had five. You've been through the fun part Oh, yeah. And how about yourself? I have a four and a half and a three. Oh. well. So. It's, I, I'm sure there's a lot of differences in the way, in the way it's done now and then. Yeah. Well, when min...
Yeah. But whether it was going back and laying in bed with them and just shooting the breeze or whatever, telling them stories or reading to them. What was the age difference between the youngest and the oldest? Six years. So they were all real close? Yeah. That's tough. That's a lot of time. Oh, yeah. We look back and...
Yeah. Maybe thirty minutes max. Well that's plenty though. And well he spends a lot of time with them while I'm cooking and then I spend time with them while, you know, he's doing other stuff. And, and, of course, we try to spend a lot of time on the weekend. You know, there's a lot of times my house may not be as clea...
Well, that's true and, and we do a lot of that on the weekends, you know. We try to spend Saturdays together. Right. If my husband golfs, you know, he'll do it during nap time, things like that where they're not really missing the presence, you know. Right. And, and we do a lot of family things together. We're, we're k...
Sure. and, And they think that's a family activity, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's great fun And, uh, well, yeah, if, My daughter's like, Mommy can I help you with the laundry? Of course, you can Yeah. Just keep them talking that way. Absolutely. Yeah But, uh, another thing we used to do is have family councils. Ever...
Oh. And everyone would get one vote. And I always thought we'd get outvoted five to two Yeah. but it never worked that way. So they would just pick whatever issue kind of was at a head that week Yeah. Well and we could bring up and we could bring up stuff too. and then, Oh. And that was always good time. Boy, we real...
Well, we did too. Yeah. And I remember the one daughter saying, we had a, a friend of hers that used to drive us up a tree Uh-huh. and she said, hey I don't make fun fun of your friends so why make fun of mine? Uh well. Kind of kind of hit us between the eyes. Yeah, yeah. You don't think of it that way do you No. But t...
Well I think that's great. And we'd usually take notes Yeah. and, you know, the younger kids, uh, or maybe all of them needed help at one time or another. Yeah. And, uh, but they were usually tougher on themselves than they were on us. And they loved it. I, I think that's true. I can remember times my parents would say...
I, I, myself, almost, uh, am in favor of it. Uh, I work at Honeywell and I went through a, a pretty, I don't know, I went through a, standard drug testing thing before I, I was brought on. Uh-huh. I think that's pretty standard. At least at Honeywell it is. Uh, I think it's important to insure the quality and, and, uh,...
Yeah. But Yeah. And that, that definitely happens, you know. I mean those, the drug tests, sure they're accurate but there's always that margin of error. Yeah. And that's, that's something to be aware of. Another thing is, a lot of times, you know, they aren't that accurate. They aren't that sensitive. Like if you're o...
Uh, electrical engineering. Oh, okay. Great. Uh, yeah, I'm a graduate student at U C F in Florida. University of Central Florida. Oh, wow . And this is actually a an internship up here. But, uh, they, uh, even for interns they, they do the whole random drug or the whole drug testing thing, so. They test you, uh, before...
Oh. So, uh, there's some noise on this end. I'm actually in a mall calling so Oh You probably wondered, huh. But, Yeah. what happens if you were to fail? Then do they give you like one one more chance or two more chances? Yes. That's a good question. I believe from what I remember of the literature they gave, uh, if yo...
Uh, no. Okay. I'm just about to finish my Master's in May and, uh just interviewing with companies right now. Oh, okay. Great. Yeah. That was the first time I'd ever gotten any kind of drug screening, you know. Was, was going to Honeywell. A friend of mine is also a doctoral student down there. Uh-huh. And he's doing ...
Okay. Uh, I think, I think the unwritten rule is, yeah, expect it but they don't do it. Oh You know, so. That's good I guess. I don't know. I mean, I, uh, I have gone to a couple of parties since, since that time and while I don't do any drugs myself, I've seen some people who work there, uh, you know, smoking a joint ...
Yeah. I'd be very very careful and, uh, you know, checking them out. Uh, our, had place my mother in a nursing home. She had a rather massive stroke about, uh, about uh, eight months ago I guess. Uh-huh. And, uh, we were, I was fortunate in that I was personally acquainted with the, uh, people who, uh, ran the nursing ...
and she was able to, to return to her apartment again. But it's really a big, uh, big, uh, decision as to, you know, when to do it. Yeah. You know, is there something else we could have done, you know, in checking out all the places that, uh, might be available. Of course, you know, there's not one on every corner, esp...
Because it was, you know, it was just a change of, change of location and it was very disturbing for her because she had been so used to traveling. Yes. I mean, she she had, she had children all across the United States Uh-huh and, you know, she spent nine months out of the year just visiting her children. Right. Uh-hu...
I think, my mother, excuse me. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, my, uh, my, uh, probably one of the biggest decisions I think that was very strengthening for our family was rather than have one child make that decision than just delegate it. Uh-huh. I think that they, they had a great deal of, um, all the brothers and sisters got...
Yep. You were very, fortunate. And they, I know. They, and, well, they had, well, they had, they had seen it coming. Uh-huh. So, so, I mean, it, I mean, I, I, I, I I, I truly wish that if something like that were to happen that my children would do something like, that for me. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Absolutely. Unfortunately,...
And, uh, fortunately, we agreed, you know, on exactly, you know, what we thought should be done. My mother also was very very independent. She had her own, still had her own little house and still driving her own car, at age eighty-three. Yeah. We were lucky in, that in one respect in that after she had her stroke she ...
And I think that when she passed away it was probably one of the greatest, um, I, I, I think it would be, it was more of a relief for her. Uh-huh. Sure. And, um, I mean, but she was truly, she was truly aware. I mean, I, I, I I don't know how I would, how I would deal if one of my parents came with, with Alzheimer's. o...
It would, I think, I think, I think, you know for myself I, I see that as probably the, the, what everything would hinge upon. Oh, Is it, how close is it to a home environment. Yes. That's right. That's the, that's probably the major question. I think that great strides are being made nowadays in, in caring for the eld...
Yes, um. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's right. Sure. Absolutely. And, people, things are scattered so much nowadays. Yeah. I, I, I think that perhaps, perhaps the extended family, you know, that it maybe one of the solutions to a lot of things even child care. Yes. You know I mean, of course there, there comes other issues, yo...
Uh-huh. I mean, uh, it's, money seems to be too big of an issue. With, with, with, with what's going on today Oh, yeah. sure. realistically it is. and I, I think, I think that we may not, that may be, you know, perhaps if we put money on the back burner that may, that may choose to alleviate a lot of the problem. Uh-hu...
Okay. It was good talking to you. Okay. Yeah. All right. Take care. Hey. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, the first thing for me is I wonder, I see a couple of different ways of talking about what privacy is, um, if privacy is something that disturbs your private state, I mean an invasion of privacy is something that disturbs y...
so my immediate reaction was one of that sense of invasion but after that I realized, no, I, I really wanted this and it was sort of exciting and so, that was almost an example of an invasion that turns out to be not invasive. Uh-huh. Right, it turned out to be, uh, uh, an invitation. Exactly. Uh, and at the same time ...
and you, one's feeling obligated, because of some sense of, of the way the ritual is played out. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And, and, uh, that, that then ends up being the, the most common example for me. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, I guess I'm not typically feeling invaded in my privacy relative to this second, this one that you...
Well, I guess, although, I, well, that's a good point where you said that how does one define what invasion of privacy is, because, uh, if that's the case of a tree falling in the forest Uh-huh, yeah. and I'm not feeling invaded then maybe my privacy hasn't been because I have no sense of my privacy state having been i...
more harmed or something. right, because, you don't have anyway to turn it off. Yeah. did you hear about this Lotus data base that was being put together? Yes, I did. I was just about to write a letter when I heard they canceled it. That would be an example where my sense of threat would be high because I would find th...
And the person who had takes unsolicited phones calls and pays money and then all of, a sudden you get your thirty a week because now, they're advertising you. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And, um, one of the problems with the Lotus data base was, um, that it was uncontrolled access to who would have that informat...
Uh-huh. And I guess that turns out to be the basic problem with any invasion of privacy is whether or not you're feeling, threatened as a result of, of it Yeah. so, maybe that is a, a little bit of what privacy is. Yes. Exactly. Uh-huh. I also thought about it, was of, uh, waiting to talk to you that, another thing tha...
Yeah. It's, it's generally being alone is not a very desirable state, at least officially. Okay. Um, so there's not, I mean, doors don't have latches on them. People don't tend to knock, you just, if there's a door closed and you open it because it's in your way you, people walk in out and, as a, as a westerner in Indi...
But it does mean that you have yet another reason to follow a set of social norms. Yes. And which isn't of, always the case in all cultures, and it wasn't until I was thinking about it just now that I realized that's actually something that's culturally relative. that is true. I haven't thought about that and, and that...
Yes. And if that's gone, um, I, I really don't know how to live very well, and I wonder, I really do wonder how people do that. That's interesting. Are are there any other specific things that, that you feel like, where, where you feel your privacy to be invaded on a day-to-day basis or either on a growing frequency? A...
we go out to dinner, Yeah. we take the kids to the park, and, uh, you know, whenever we, he, my husband has time off or something, we take them to the zoo, or we, you know, we do everything we can possibly as a family. Do you work outside the home? No, I don't. Yeah, I don't either, it makes it a little bit easier, I t...
Uh-huh. and, we just do all kinds of fun things like that an. Yeah, we have family that's far away. It sounds like you might too. Yeah, we do, so they, you know, the only way they know their grandparents is by pictures. Yeah. And, uh, Right, and phone calls that's about, about it. Yeah, right and, uh, you know, they, w...
Especially since my youngest one is excuse me, only fourteen months. Right. She, she's really getting to the age where she's playing, and likes to go places. Uh-huh. Yeah, and with, you know, me being at home and just having the one income, you know, you don't have, this lot of extra money to, to do a lot of, you know,...
Yeah, so. Have, um, have you ever been to the Science, it's called the Science Place? Yes, yes, that's what. We we haven't lived here too long and we went there a couple of weeks ago and, uh, Uh-huh, the kids thought that was wonderful. Oh, yeah, we, I guess there's Science Place One and Science Place Two. We've only b...
yeah. That really seem, they really seemed to go wild in there. Yeah, yeah they had a lot of fun in there and, uh, there's, uh, there's some petting, you know, like, uh, uh, I think it's Owens Country Farms has a free petting, you know, like a farm that you can go to and the kids can pet animals and stuff. Where's that...
We take, you know, whenever we take them to Showbiz or they think it's wonderful just to go to McDonald's, you know, they don't go for the food they go for the, to play around and, There's another place in Mesquite called Monkey Business, That's right. Uh-huh. and it's a indoor fun park and it has a bunch of different ...
and the one in Mesquite is, uh, Scyene exit. Uh-huh. And it's, it's, uh, the kids just had a wonderful time there, they, you know, you just pay that admission, and then all the, the, the rides are free. You know, of course, they have all the little video games and, you know, those little quarter rides, you know, to, an...
I, we try to do a lot of things as a family and, you know, inexpensively as possible, so. Definitely. Well, I think, I don't know if we've done five minutes but I'm sure that will be good. Yeah, that will be good, yeah. It was good talking to you. Well it was good talking to you. I really appreciate your suggestions. O...
What am I afraid of? Yes. Um, I don't know if I'm really afraid of spending too much. I just, uh, don't think that I need them, you know. I, uh, they are tempting at times, but I, I just, you know, sometimes I just don't like everybody knowing everything about me, you know, so, Well, that's very, can be very, very true...
That's right. Uh-huh. I use mine a great deal, um, for groceries, for everything that I can and, then just write one check at the end of the month, for the entire thing, Uh-huh. That's what I do. right. That's what I do. Just a second. to child in Sorry That's all right. Sounds like you have a little one there. I have...
Yes. So, yeah, um, I'm, I'm like you I, I use my, only use my credit card for, um, you know, when I, you know, I just use it whenever I feel like I don't want to write a check, and then, but I don't charge anything that I can't payoff at the end of the month. Uh-huh. So, Well, uh, do you, uh, do you ever use the A T M ...
Oh, that helps. Right. Yeah. Well the, the other thing some people are not aware of, is they will use their A, their credit card like their Visa or their MasterCard for cash Uh-huh. and when they do that, they begin paying interest right from that very day on. You're right. And that's kind of silly. Yeah right. Absolut...
Right. Because I, Well, I think that's the only thing you can do, is just say no and mean no and, not be tempted. Yeah. It's like, I'd like to know where they determine that I'm such a good credit risk that they can go and say, you get this much credit line. You know. Well, You've already been preapproved. oh, absolu...
Right. And, then they can't meet the minimum monthly payments on it. Well, and some people use one credit card to pay for another credit card they own, Uh-huh. and, I mean, that does nothing, but exacerbate the entire problem. Yeah, it does because you're, you know, you, you're, you know, you're just costing yourself m...
Good luck. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Here goes Sharon. Okay. Well what do you think about Nolan Ryan being the first baseball player to earn a million dollars? That's the only thing I found out tonight Oh, you found that out tonight? Yeah. I haven't even heard that, that's great. I think he deserves every penny of it. ...

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