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I know they pay taxes, but they don't Yeah. you know, they, they get paid a hundred and twenty-five grand a year. Which is more than twice my salary by quite a bit Uh-huh. and, you know, I'm going, like, I, I don't understand how they're supposed to be my servants and yet they're paid more than I am Uh-huh. and they wo...
I mean, there is a lot to learn, but maybe it will keep them on their toes and a little bit more active in trying to catch up. I think two years is too short. Uh-huh. I think it would have to be extended, uh, you know, a term limitation for Congress would be like three terms or even four terms or you would increase the...
Uh, the C I A is moving out to West Virginia which is a really stupid location for a large agency like that and for almost any agency. I mean, the action isn't in West Virginia. I hate to tell the the senator from West Virginia this information, but it really doesn't the world does not revolve around West Virginia uh, ...
Uh-huh. I mean, we all know that that's not necessarily true. But I, I think that there are, there are advantages to having seniority and, uh, or, not having a complete turnover every, some small number of years. I think there are, I mean there's an institutional memory that you need to maintain. Uh-huh. But I think th...
Yeah. I'm up in Minneapolis now, but I was in Florida so, uh, yeah, I was kind of into it for a while there. Were you sailboating? Yeah, for the most part. Yeah Yeah. I had a little sail, Well, we don't get to do a whole lot of that up here No Just motorboat's all we, What part of Texas you from? Uh, Nacogdoches. Okay,...
all right. It's the oldest town in Texas. Is that right? Yeah. Wow, that's pretty wild. We have, uh, Lake Sam Rayburn out here and Lake Nacogdoches, so we do a lot of boating on. Okay, so you got some lakes around you can do that on. Yeah. You do skiing and stuff or, Yeah, little bit. Yeah? All right. Just got through ...
All right. Just came back from Denver but, Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, we've, uh, our, the snow up here is really kind of starting to melt now. Yeah, it, it, it was heavy when we were there though. Yeah. I didn't see any boats there, though. Not, not, not too many, no. But, uh, no, I just got back from a weekend. We ...
but, uh, my parents are pretty big sailors, too, they're kind of into it. Uh, all we, all we have up here mostly bass boats. Oh, yeah, I guess it's pretty, uh, fishing's a pretty big thing, huh? Uh-huh. Yeah. Lot of, lot of fishing going on up here. Yeah. All right. So, where about in Texas is that? Is that centrally l...
Let me see, Houston's north. Yeah? Okay. Dallas is south. Oh, okay, all right. Well, that sounds pretty good. Does, uh, I guess the weather, does that stay pretty constant there or, It's, it's gets cold at night, and then warm in the afternoons. Yeah? Probably seventies, eighties in the afternoon. Okay, well, that's pr...
have you done, uh, any other boating then or, No, I hadn't done any in a uh, lately, but that's all, I used to uh, have a friend that owned, his daddy owned a boat shop. Yeah? And we used to, when I was in high school, we used to go out, go boating every day just about. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I, And we had a different...
It's, uh, especially if you get a, a pretty fast boat like those catamarans are pretty fast. Yeah, what, You can actually, Do, if you get one like that do have somebody teach you that or they just, Well, actually, I, I've known how to sail pretty much my whole life. Uh, my family's pretty into it Yeah. and, uh, I took ...
but some people are more motorboaters, you know which is fine. Yeah. Well, that's about all we have Yeah, yeah, lot of people don't, don't see the excitement in sailing, but, then, again, they may they may never have tried anything like, uh, catamaran Uh-huh. and, uh, that's when you really start getting into speed. Yo...
but, uh, the races, I, I work with a guy right now that, uh, races catamarans in the summertime Uh-huh. and, uh, he's pretty gassed about it. He's got a good, uh, What kind of, what lake do you all use? Well, he, uh, he's from Detroit Uh-huh. so he usually goes on one of the Great Lakes, I think, and does his sailing. ...
or, No, it's for Cooper Industries. Okay. Are they primarily electronic, then? Yeah. Okay. Well Well that, they have a, you know, worldwide, but Right. all we do here is make transformers electronics and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Great. Yeah, how do you like it down there in Texas? It's real nice. Yeah? Been here all ...
Oh, no doubt. Yeah. Okay. I've never been to Texas. I've been to Oklahoma, but, uh, that's about as far as, Oh, it's, Oklahoma's nothing like it. Yeah? Okay, well, that's good, because I didn't like Oklahoma that well Okay, so what kind of luck you been having with buying and returning products? Uh, not too bad really....
But, uh, I don't know, I really haven't returned a whole lot lately. Have you? I haven't had to. It's, uh, the, every so often, I mean, I, I, I'm almost pushing it myself. Maybe I'll buy a shirt from G I Joe's and it shrinks too much and say, well, I should have known better, I mean, I bought it from G I Joe's Um. and ...
and if you want to buy American it takes real extra work to find. Exactly. It's probably a Japanese or a Burmese company owning and hiring people in the U S I was reading, Right, I was reading something in, uh, CONSUMER REPORTS tonight about that as a matter of fact. They were talking about cars, uh, the car issue just...
and, you know, they should start making quality products. Yeah, I think they're beginning to. The, the days of don't buy a car made on a Monday or a Friday are pretty much going away and, That's what I thought, too, until I saw the CONSUMER REPORTS issue. Uh-huh. Uh, they've got all the American, well, all the, all the...
maybe they're starting to get a clue. Uh, Well, they got a three year lead time. It probably won't start really showing up until ninety-four or so Yeah, that's just it. Technology that comes in right now is, is probably not going to be implemented until, you know, quite a few years down the road. But, uh, The computer ...
Yeah. Uh, I don't know. And the hardware, well, I mean, all the chips that make up the hardware are a commodity and the MacIntosh is about the only one that's going right forcing I B M and the rest of the D O S world to follow along. Yeah. Right, they're kind of the leaders right now, you know. I used to see all those ...
I'm really, I've gotten a little bit out of the, the personal computer business just because I don't have one at home. I, I do use a Mac at work but, uh uh, I really don't, don't do much with it at home Uh-huh. but, uh, Apple's sort of making a and they're ones were growling consumer, uh, need to worry about the Mac th...
Yeah? All right. But, uh, technically, I'm not actually in the industry. I don't work a computer company. No? I'm an abuser. Well, that's, that's all right. But it's sort of like surfing on the wave of future shock to you know, keep up with the changes as they happen. Yeah, that's true. Something that I find uncomforta...
Uh, I know that there's been some increases in crime lately in terms of murders. Uh-huh. Uh, that's kind of gone up in scale and, and some other things. Uh, I personally had a little experience the other day. Uh, somebody broke my passenger window and stole a uniform out of my truck. Oh, really. But, actually, you know...
but in comparison to Colorado, it's real noticeable. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. I mean you can just feel, I mean, I can just sense, I mean I won't even, I won't go to the grocery store at night. Yeah. Yeah, that's You know. And it, it's that kind of thing and, uh, That's really a shame when it has to constrain your activities li...
Uh-huh. Uh, but in Orlando, before I moved up, we had a real problem with it. Uh, we've been broken into in my apartment about four times in like two and a half weeks. Oh, no. And one of the things that I, I helped organize was a neighborhood watch type situation down there. Uh-huh. Uh, because they were just, it's on...
They know the house is unlocked and then they just slip in. Slip in, slip out, you know. That's amazing. They know exactly what they're going for. Yeah. So, I've heard that's really on the rise as far as uh, you know, a new type of crime. Uh, Yeah, it almost seems like they're getting quite a bit smarter. Yeah Really,...
but, uh, yeah. I guess, I mean, I think we've got a neighborhood watch program here in Minneapolis, I'm not real sure. Uh, Yeah, it helps to know your neighbors, you know. They give you, you're supposed to make lists of, uh, cars. Like I know a lot of my neighbors right around my development. If I see a car that's unfa...
Yeah. Well. Yeah, that, that whole thing of being alert and kind of noticing your surroundings, noticing people who look suspicious uh, activities like that, sure. Uh-huh. I mean, you, you hate to be paranoid but there are really only so many things you can do. You can have the house alarm, uh neighborhood watch progra...
Uh-huh. they did in Miami that time. But it's not, uh, if you kill someone in your home, as long as they are in your home, it's considered self-defense though. That's not always true. It isn't? No. There was a, there was a case about two years ago where a guy knew he was going to get robbed Uh-huh. and essentially what...
Yeah. It's like your hands are very much tied. Yeah. Well I think if, if you had a handgun though, in other words it wasn't premeditated, you had a handgun, it's the middle of the night, someone's Uh, I've had, uh, three boys through, I guess, uh, some child care, each one of them and now they're in school so it's all ...
but, uh, when I was when my kids were young, I was teaching at a university and, uh, the child care center associated with our university was quite good so I felt confident that they'd do right. Uh-huh. Of, aren't don't they kind of use them for, everybody kind of use them for guinea pigs? For their for their pet theor...
so, I never really worried too much about that being, uh, uh, the case with my boys. Uh-huh. Oh. Uh, I, you know, I think those things get into the headlines immediately when somebody finds out about them but Uh-huh. I don't think it's as common as, uh, the newspapers would make you believe Uh-huh. And another thing i...
and we went ahead but, uh, not everybody can make that choice and even, even though my wife wasn't working, we did have, uh, one or another of the boys in, uh, child care for just for part of the day. Uh, or a couple of days a week just so that, uh, other things could get done around the house and so on, so, So, we did...
But I think, you know, you have to look through a place and you have to get a feel for, uh, how they treat the kids and, uh, uh, what kind of staff members they have and how much turnover they have and things like that before you commit your child to them. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I think you have, the main thing is that yo...
Uh-huh. Well, Why don't you go ahead and start. Okay. Well I think the court systems could stand some improvement. Uh, trial by jury is good but a lot of time a lot of cases, uh, is circumstantial evidence that, that convicts a person, which I don't think is all the time good. Because sometimes it's hard to get all the...
and, uh they, Uh-huh. uh, I think it's a lot harder to get off on technicalities also because they, uh, uh, the judge is also sort of a jury, uh, but I'm not sure I like that I think I prefer the jury system myself. You think you prefer the jury? You think your chances are better? Uh, well, actually I think in most cri...
in a case like that, most of the time its, I don't know, maybe I'm too, too, uh, uh, conservative when it comes to that. the sentencing is really light compared to what I think they should be in a lot of cases you know, uh, Yeah. Well if you drag twelve people into a courtroom, I trust them to make the right decision a...
Yeah. That's, that's not a bad system. But I, I do think it needs to be shaken up a little bit. Yeah. But, the thing is too, maybe they need more of a, I don't know, more of a expert types to, to be on some of these jury cases because most time you just pick, you know, Joe Blow or whoever and a good citizen or whoever ...
but, Have you had that experience recently? Recently, I can't really say recently. But I think about, uh, about a year ago, uh, I bought a product from some company down at, uh, in Atlanta, Georgia. I believe it was one of these, uh, one of these, uh, mixers. These, like these juice machines and, uh the, uh, the blade...
And I'm not convinced that any of them work a hundred percent. Uh-huh. Uh, the one I have now is okay, most of the time. Uh-huh. But that's it. But that's, that's probably the worst. My daughter has a charm bracelet I bought her that's guaranteed. Uh, James Avery. I don't know if you have that up there but it, it's a v...
I mean they were so rude about it. Right. And so we wanted a different kind of catch and she said well it's not guaranteed. And I said, well put it on because apparently nothing's guaranteed so do it anyway. Uh-huh. So we got the kind we wanted and I was really disappointed with that. I felt that this was a company tha...
so, Right. So I felt kind of good about that, you know. I didn't even know the person's name that had given me the hard time or anything Uh-huh. Right. but I just felt like, well at least I did something. Maybe they'll fix it. They might work on that, you know. Right, right. But I find attitudes are more of a problem....
and they will gladly, no questions asked, take it back if for some bizarre reason you decide you don't want it anymore. Uh, they'll, they'll actually do things like this. I mean they're really, they, they bend over backwards service wise for you. I've, uh I've found also a lot of companies nowadays, have, they have eig...
I don't think most places are like that anymore. Well I think, I guess nowadays with the, uh, with the economy the way it is, I guess, there was a, there was a story on the news tonight about how, because a lot of companies are, uh, you know, things are getting rough out there, there's a lot of, you know, the morale am...
I mean, it's supposed to be all legal and everything. Uh, you go and you present your case, the other side presents their case and you're done with it. It's almost like the NIGHT COURT we see on T V. Uh-huh. Uh, and, uh, but it's not that we have, uh, such, it didn't backlog or all of the, uh, the cases that are, uh, a...
And I, usually it is the defendant, I guess, that wants to have the jury hear the case. Sure. So I'm not out for streamlining things to the point where we, uh, take that, you know, that would require a change in the Bill of Rights, I believe and so, and, and I wasn't, I didn't mean that Oh, oh, okay. I, I didn't mean t...
so. I agree that that should be encouraged. Uh-huh. People should know that that's an option just in case they feel they have to have a jury trial. But I think most lawyers do a pretty good job of making that evident to, to clients unless they feel they can, you know, tweak a jury into giving a different sentence or p...
But the lawyers are really, uh, it's to their advantage to play to as big an audience as possible so. Uh, I was wondering too, if they were thinking of about the judge making awards in civil cases not just sentencing in, in a criminal cases. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, I'm not so sure I'm in favor of that. But I am in favor of...
and that was almost twenty years ago Uh-huh. It isn't, sort of amazed me they first caught up with me for the first time, in, uh, that would have been about, uh, twenty years too uh, uh, just last year and, uh, the case I heard was a criminal case and it seemed it really, trivial. It involved two bicycles. We didn't do...
I'm Nevin from Sunnyvale, California. Hi, this is Jim Bliss from Minneapolis, Minnesota. How you doing? Pretty good. Good. Uh, I guess the topic is trial by jury and how we should change that or how we would change it. Yep. Uh, I'm ready whenever you are. Okay So, uh, what are your, what are your thoughts on the subjec...
No. And even like, you know, two-thirds majority, I mean, it's Yeah, that's, yeah, quorums are to easy to get. Yep. And there's always that, that chance that one or two people could be playing devil's advocate for a good reason, you know. So it's, it's definitely but, uh, I don't know. I could, I couldn't believe they ...
About the only good thing I would say about that is it that it would, uh, hurry the process up a bit Yeah. but I mean even now we've got, I know we've got plenty of cases out there where people have been wrongly convicted and things like that and that's what the trial by jury. I know . I mean, jeez if, if the judge wa...
I do too so. One of them just got his law degree. But, uh, to tell you the truth, I'm not real familiar with, uh, the system of jurisprudence the way it is right now. No. I really haven't studied it in depth. Yeah. I know a little more about civil cases when, than criminal cases. Which is, Yeah. it's more in how you pr...
Uh-huh. And it's like, boy, the stuff that they can twist around is, Yep it's pretty amazing. And it's like the, the truth isn't really important anymore. It's, Yeah, it's not. And then you get people who, who bring in cases just because they want to bring them up just because. Yep. Like this, this friend of mine's pre...
And, and most of the time they're looking to place blame. Uh and stuff. Yep See, you're from California, is that right? Uh, yeah. Well originally from Chicago but, Oh, okay. I was just thinking I wonder, I wonder how, how the civil system or the court system must differ between there and say where I am in Minneapolis....
I haven't either other than, But, uh, that friend of mine's telling me that I might have to go in for, uh, as a witness. He may subpoena me. So we'll see what happens. But, uh, I'm not really sure how we could change the legal system to make it better. . Yeah. It's, there are too many big problems, you know. There's, t...
and it's like it seems like every year they let out more and more just cause they don't have room for them, you know. Huh. That's not a, that's not a good solution either. Not at all. I'm not real sure what the, What do you think about capital punishment? Well, I'm kind of in favor of it for certain crimes. Yeah. Which...
Uh-huh. And, uh, they're pretty liberal on it. They tend to, like, fry people left and right. which, Yeah that's, go ahead. Go ahead. Texas is too. Texas, I saw on T V the other night, is the, has had forty-six in like the past several years. Yeah. So they're pretty hip on it too, I guess. They do it by lethal injecti...
I don't think that's right. But on the other hand, there's a lot of advantages to it. Yeah. I think crime rates deterred a little bit by using it and, of course, you have some savings in terms of taxpayer money keeping people in jail or not. Um, Yeah. with Florida that's a big problem because there's so many people in ...
Uh, go ahead. I wish if they were going to do it, they would be a little more consistent in dealing with who gets lethal injection and who doesn't. Right. Be a little more, you know, not being able to put it off for fifteen years. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because a lot of these guys, you know, they get in and they, they get off f...
But if you've got the death penalty hanging over your head, uh, I don't know, I think that may solve a lot of that. Yeah Maybe not solve it, but, I don't know, maybe , I, yeah I tend to think the repeal system for the death penalty is a little, little too lenient. Yeah. Uh, kind of takes away from the significance of t...
What do you do? I'm a doctoral student at the University of Central Florida. Oh, really. Yeah, I'm doing an internship up at Honeywell. Oh really? Uh, yeah. Neat. But, uh, I don't know. It's, it's an interesting issue. There's, like you say, in Texas there's been quite a few and, and in Florida in the last few years, I...
Oh, is that right? they gave a run down that Texas Texas tends to be a little more robust and disciplined area then . Okay. Yeah, I, I kind of, yeah, I've heard things about that. I've heard that they don't mess around very much. Yeah. Uh, they, they don't get repealed as easily as they do. Like the guy in California g...
I don't know. I, I'm trying to think about other crimes that would warrant it. Uh, I guess, what is it, what's the policy now with treason? Do they, uh, do they axe you for treason or is it a life sentence? No, I don't, I don't think, uh, the military doesn't execute anymore so. Yeah. Or death before the firing squad o...
And, uh, there's a lot of things that I see that are so obviously wrong. That you would think it would be easy to correct. Uh-huh. Right. But the system doesn't allow for the corrections Uh-huh. How about you? Well, that's interesting. I have a sister who used to live in Kennesaw, Georgia. Oh, yes. And, uh, she has a y...
Uh-huh. I'm only up here temporarily on an internship but uh, I live in Orlando, Florida usually. Okay. And the schools down there, from what I know, are not bad. They're pretty good. Well, that's great. But I know that in some, I know in a lot of rural areas they're not that good. Uh-huh. For example, I have a brothe...
my husband and I go to the store and we buy these math books and fractions and multiplication, division things and I feel like, uh, there are several areas that we're just really, really slow in. Uh-huh. And, uh, I don't blame the teachers as much as I blame the system. It is, What do you think's wrong to cause that? W...
that's, that's one thing I worry about . Uh, also I think, we have a lot of, uh, Hispanics There you go, uh-huh. and we have a lot of, uh, the county I am, I'm in, the minorities are mostly Hispanic. Yeah. Probably quite a few black people up there and and, No We're from a county, we're from the county they marched in....
Yeah but, you know, it, it's, you don't want to seem racist or prejudice or whatever, but then again. But it is a problem Uh, especially in the inner schools, inner city. Yeah, there is no denying that, that, Sure, you know. Teachers, you have to admit that teachers have to slow things down for people who don't unders...
Uh, we had a school that had classes probably about the same size you're talking, twenty-seven, thirty kids to to a class. Yeah. But, But your teacher had control. Yeah. We zipped right along, you know. I, I was, I was doing mathematics, fractions and division and multiplication by the third grade, easily. Uh-huh. Yeah...
Uh, if, Uh, I'm of the age that could have gone, although I didn't and, uh, I guess, uh, looking back on it, I tend to think it was pretty, uh, mostly a mistake. Uh-huh. On the other hand, uh, the more I learn about the history, the more I see it was incremental, uh, decisions. Any one of which was sort of understandab...
I work with several that were over there, and for some of them it was just kind of, I don't know, not so much a holiday, I guess that's how they tend to talk about it. But that they just kind of lived out in the woods and ever now and then, they'd go and shoot their rifles and then they'd, come back and you know. But t...
Otherwise there'd be, they'd get you someplace else. Uh-huh. Looking back, it seems like that was only partly true. That, uh, there might have been a better place to draw the line Uh, I guess you can, I guess you can say that a, a certain amount of resolve and willingness to fight, uh, brought the cold war to an end. B...
Yeah. And it was a, it was a traditional the traditional battle of, kind of good versus evil, if you, you know whichever way it is. Well you're not, But in, in the Vietnam war it seems like it was, a, a, the sides and the lines that were drawn are all confused as to who's good and who's bad and and, uh, you know, the,...
I mean it's dying now, but it's still alive as opposed to, this Desert Storm stuff may have, uh killed it. Yeah. But I think that was one of the biggest, that, you know, the, uh, the domestic unrest, Are you in the middle of anything? No. I'm not in the middle of anything. I've just, about the last thing I did about m...
That was the only thing we didn't, you know, putting the ceiling up and things like that we don't, we, we weren't sure how to do that and. and I did all the sheetrocking and the interior work Yeah, that's the exact opposite. We did all, put the roof up and did all the roofing and the, put all the interior walls up. We ...
Probably so and I, we'd never done it so we just left it alone. But that's, I guess, I'm only twenty-one so I, my, my vast experience of home, home owner's knowledge is not very much. So it's just what I have to do, more or less, around the house, you know, for my parents so. Did you, you framed it in uh, on, on, you f...
He, well he did all the flooring himself. He put the whole, the whole floor in and then I just started with the walls and the roof and started there. And then we were, put a, like a, not, not necessarily a garage, but just like a, off the side of that after we had the house part made, we just decided we'd carry the roo...
so. You just put forms in the ground and fill them with concrete? Yeah. Huh. Exactly, so. It's, Well, the last thing I did completely myself was an outside deck which I was pretty proud of Yeah, those those are, we'd, I've done one, I helped somebody do one of those before. Those are, those are, you know, you can buy t...
You can always tear stuff out and redo it. It's a, Yeah, yeah. That's not near, like building a house or anything but, Yeah, those are nice. Especially when you get done, you've got something, you know. I don't know, I like them. You just sit down on on the deck and do whatever. Have a barbecue Yeah. I I built it two...
Designed, so we could pour concrete and support it with a, a nice firm four by four posts. And, uh and then the rest of it I just did. Yeah. A, a contractor friend helped me, uh, with some of the, uh, foundation work but, uh, it was pretty, it was about four or five hundred square feet. The same size as the addition th...
that's good. That's not bad at all. Didn't have to, Yeah. the wood may it got surprising as to the fact that how much wood is, you know. To get, to get good lumber it costs, I don't know about Dallas, but even in this little town, it's, it's not cheap at all. I was surprised. I'd be surprised if it wasn't, uh, cheaper...
Yeah. It's nothing but woods up here, down here. Yeah. I don't, I haven't, I mean, I haven't, I used to live in Dallas. In Arlington, actually. And, but that was just when I was a kid so I don't really know what the cost of living is even like in Dallas anymore. But it's, I don't know, we're a college town so that does...
That's a lot easier. You've got something going all the time. Well, what do you think in terms of, uh, benefits? Well, personally, you know, I think, you know, of course I'm sure we're familiar with the exact same benefit package and I think that, uh, we've probably got one of the best around, you know, besides, they t...
and I suspect that that's probably true for everyone. Yeah. When I was much younger it was, uh, less important to consider retirement and less important to consider medical benefits. But as I grow older and my family grows, it, the medical benefits are more important and the retirement is more important. I had never re...
Uh-huh. It's certainly a, a supplemental way, uh, Uh-huh. and I suppose if, maybe in, in your instance, if, if you're started with T I in your early to mid-twenties, and happen to stay with them until you're sixty-five, then you'll have a very good retirement plan. Right. But I had another career first and then came to...
so And it's, I understand though, it, Yeah. Uh, believe me, I do that myself. Do you? Yeah? And I disagree with you. I don't think it's the worst investment, in the world. Do you really not? I, I, you know, I, I debate about whether it's really good or not, you know. Well, it's, in terms of guaranteed return on investm...
and, uh, one of the things that we talked about with the counselor there was, you know, they work up this whole big, you know, proposal, profile for you, that, all the things that you need to work on and you need to do. And then one of the things that we talked about with her was, you know, the need to save for our son...
That's, what, that's exactly what's happening in my family. Yeah, Is it really? Yeah. except that mine are a little bit older and, and I've shown them the numbers and said this is what's going to be available, all this is going to do is give you a little spending money while you're there. Uh-huh. You better make sure t...
I don't, uh, it just amazing, it amazes me how much the, the costs are going to go up over the next ten or fifteen years. I just don't know how anybody's going to do it. And boy, it gets really scary when you start talking to them. Uh, I have a, an eleven year old daughter now who's saying, gee, Dad, I want to be an al...
That's right Well, you know, T I, you know, T I offers some good stuff and then I think there's, I mean I think there's some negatives, but there's going to be some negatives anywhere, you know, no matter where you go. I have, you know, all, this is the first really large company I've worked for. I've always been invol...
and you can pick what you want and, yeah. now it's up to you it's menu selection, so, to speak. Right. That sounds really good. I read a thing, I don't even remember if it was in the DALLASITE or the INSITE one, about uh, companies allowing you, and they said that T I was looking into it, to purchase extra vacation day...
so, Well, I could certainly, personally stand seeing them go to a, a standardized compensatory time for overtime. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I don't believe any of us would have to purchase any extra vacation days, if they did, that. Well, true. True. Uh, and, and I would certainly support something like four to one or five t...
But that's, and that's that way with a lot of things, you know, there. It seems like, it depends on what, what group you happen to be in, what, what you're going to get and what you're not going to get so, Well, that's for sure. Which is the same, but, but then it's probably that way anywhere, you know, that's, Oh, I'm...
Uh-huh. So, they're really not full, full force into it, but they're trying, so we're attempting it, but I wish we could do more. Yeah, there's, there's been no emphasis on recycling at all in San Antonio. I used to work for the power company here and there was discussion for a while about, uh, building a garbage burni...
it's not very convenient to do. Right, when they put centers and stuff like that. Uh-huh. Yeah, well we have those, uh, which I think is one of the best things is those cash for cans. I don't know if you all have those things around. Yes. And I really like that because that makes it real convenient because they're in a...
Yeah. So, I really, I really like that, but, people are really concerned, it's just that sometimes it's not the right people, which is really, really sad because, I wish we would do more Yeah. At work we started, uh, all the recycling stuff. They're really trying, I think what started it at work was that planet earth t...
it would be nice if it could be more. And I'm sure that the, uh, driving factor for recycling the computer paper is that we get paid to do so. Oh do you really. We sell the paper back to the, uh, to a paper manufacturing company. Well that's a neat idea. Well, it, it defrays the cost of buying the paper, I think. I, no...
We're trying to cut cost and everything like that, and, and recycle and all that stuff and, and here we are wasting. And I don't understand, sometimes, the way, the thinking, the logic behind it. Well the last time, uh, someone moved offices in my building and, uh, the, uh, properties people came in with all, with the ...
So, you know, there, they don't take up much storage space. Exactly right, well that's very good Yeah, yeah I, I felt a little guilty about taking the boxes for about two seconds until I realized they would be thrown away, so. Right, right, I thought, well I was doing them a favor by taking them. I found about five, uh...

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