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Oh.
And I, I,
And how old are your girls?
They're eleven and eight
and I gave in at Christmas
Oh, yeah.
and they have, they keep their cages real clean.
It always smells of cedar
and they just sleep and eat bits of apple and carrots and,
Sure.
I think they're cutting us off.
No,
that's
Oh.
somebody's trying to cut in o... |
I've, I've got incoming calls
and I don't know why, calling.
Oh, okay.
I, I hate to cut it off,
I think they would cut us off,
I understand.
so we'll just wait.
Okay,
well
Whoever it is will call back.
they'll cut us off pretty soon.
Well, it's somebody calling for my kids, you know,
jeez.
Yeah,
I know.
Actually, it's ... |
How does,
and I keep losing all my fish.
In the salt water?
Salt water or,
No
Yeah.
just regular water.
Yeah,
they just raised our taxes up here about a year ago.
Well, they've, uh, statewide raises,
they raise ours it seems like constantly.
We just, uh, passed a new one, uh,
fortunately or unfortunately it doesn't go ... |
Well, it seems like a big politics game
like up here, last year, the governor was up for re-election
so he said the budget was fine,
the state didn't have any money
and then right after he won the election he said we owed a lot of money
so they raised all our taxes.
And now it's election time again
so they're trying to... |
I hope they put that in writing
Yeah,
yeah,
they say they're going to lower,
but I'll see.
I feel like the middle class people are supporting the nation and, uh, that the rich are not paying their share
and of course the poor can't afford it either,
but, uh, I really feel like
and, and I feel like, you know,
I'm a midd... |
Well, I don't know many rich that don't have enough tax breaks to,
I mean, I'm talking about the really rich.
Well, they should just tax everybody the same amount no matter what you make.
Right.
That would be fair.
Now I'll go along with that. You know,
Yeah
no loopholes or anything.
Everybody pays ten percent or fifte... |
I think it's pretty fair.
Our state taxes are somewhat based on the federal.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, they have not gotten it where the withholding is accurate.
Oh
So, and, and you withhold no matter what you do,
they withhold what they're supposed to and at the end of the year it's not enough.
Oh, great,
so you ought to be sa... |
But, you know, if you have a lot of federal deduction, it ends up hurting you state wise.
Really?
And you end up owing, you know,
you may get nine hundred dollars back from federal
and you're going to owe fifteen hundred in state.
Ouch
And, uh, it's, it's just ridiculous.
But, I, I don't know.
I've,
they just came up w... |
Have you been following the, uh, the progress of the space health code ?
Uh, to a degree.
I haven't kept up as, uh, much as I would like,
Uh-huh.
I've just been so busy, uh,
Uh-huh.
I barely get a chance to read a newspaper now and then,
so.
Yeah.
I think it's pretty exciting that they can, uh,
it would be interesting ... |
Well, they, they just made leaps and jumps.
I think a lot of our, our technology we have is, is quite a bit due to lot of the space travel, uh, uh, equipment and stuff that,
Yeah,
I agree. Uh,
as a matter of fact we're the ones that I have been to Houston to, to, you know, to visit the, uh, space center out there,
and,... |
Yeah.
we were talking about that just the other day.
What did we do without it back then?
Yeah.
I guess there was a lot of buttons and a lot of zippers and snaps.
Yeah.
Yeah,
there's, there's a lot of, a lot of little things that have come up .
I know maybe some of the big things that, uh, uh,
concentrated foods for on... |
Yeah.
I always thought well, what do you do hit a brick wall, eventually.
It's hard to consider that something could go on indefinitely.
Yeah,
that, that is, uh, that is something that would be hard to think about.
I agree.
You know like you say we're used to finite things
and something that is infinite and just incomp... |
Yeah.
I think, uh, it's in everyone's nature to some degree to want to get out and explore something they haven't, or experience something, you know, indifferent.
Huh.
I think that's what made us, uh, progress to the state we are is our curiosity.
Oh, sure.
Sure.
Of course.
That's true.
There must be some better better... |
That's right.
That's right.
And if you are just content with being, you know, with the way things are then, you know, then you must lead, lead a pretty dull life.
Yeah.
Because if
Well, they are always finding easier ways
and, you know, just because they don't talk about it or something like that.
Uh-huh.
And they are ... |
I think, uh, you know,
we've gotten different programs at work, you know, to, to, uh, make it visible to management that we are doing things better,
So how many, um, credit cards do you have?
Um, I think I'm down to one.
Oh, my gosh,
I wish I was that way.
Is that why you said I had more experience than you?
Well, no.
... |
How, how do you use it?
Emergencies come along,
and I and I use it.
Yeah
that's understandable, exactly.
Uh, like, uh, my car, uh, had a major problem, and seven hundred dollars,
Uh-huh.
and uh, things just come up
Right,
right.
and you just never get to use it the way you'd really like to.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
Well, actual... |
I try not to use them too often.
But living in this area, uh, like I live fifteen miles west of Washington, D C
Um.
it's a very expensive area
Yeah.
So, sometimes you have no other choice if you need to buy something.
Yeah.
Well, I, I know I was up in there and a lot of credit cards,
and I was just starting to get to w... |
yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, now we pretty much just pay cash for as much as we can there.
Uh-huh. Um.
Uh-huh.
Our, our only credit card is Sears,
so and I have that for automotive purposes.
Uh-huh, um.
Right,
right.
Well, well that's great.
Um, everyone I know here uses, um, credit cards like they're going out of business to b... |
I see.
so that I use, because I travel some.
So I use that,
and I don't really have to worry about that, because I only use it for business,
so I automatically have the money to pay it off.
Yeah.
But. Um.
Uh, I wouldn't mind, uh, you know, getting back into one if they would, you know,
you start out at a low limit,
and... |
Um, the temptation's too great.
Yeah.
Um.
So, I don't know,
just, uh,
writing checks is just as easy I guess.
Yeah,
that's true,
that's true,
but. So, I guess, uh, we've kind of exhausted this, uh, topic
Yeah,
well, really,
what, what can you.
Yeah,
you can't say too much about it really.
Other than, you use them or yo... |
I guess, uh, they don't care if we end it early.
So, uh, hopefully, uh, you have a good Thanksgiving.
That's coming up,
and. And, then, uh, maybe we'll talk again.
Okay,
you, too.
Yeah,
may be,
you're the furthest person, actually, that I've talked.
I've talked to a lot of people in Texas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Texas is the big ... |
Well, I, I'm not really certain how I, uh, I'm not certain that, that it does a lot of good. I mean, that it ends up, ends up effectively, uh, uh, uh, avoiding a lot of the crimes that have capital punishment penalties.
Right,
you don't think,
Yet, on the other hand, uh, I don't know,
I mean, there is things that
seem... |
Uh, I, you know, I think to a certain degree, the reason that it, it doesn't serve as a deterrent, uh, may be because you never know if it's going to be applied. Right,
unlike, uh, like in, in Arab societies. If you get, get caught stealing, they chop off your hand
and and you walk around the rest of your life with on... |
Uh-huh.
but on the other hand, uh, uh, you know, I don't, I don't know if it's that is, that is that serious that they're really never going to be out of jail, uh ...
Right,
but then again, also, you can't bring back lives that have been taken anyway,
so uh, it's,
Uh-huh
it doesn't,
it seems by, that by,
I don't know,
... |
Oh, really?
In Dallas?
No,
I'm in Austin.
Oh, really?
Where, where are you calling from?
Uh, right now I'm in Utah,
but I'm from Plano, Texas.
Oh, I see,
uh-huh.
So, uh, uh, what are the laws like in Texas?
It's, Texas is, has, is one of the, one of the well,
I guess there is more and more states that are, that are goi... |
Oh, really?
They do it by, uh, by, do it by lethal injection.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I'm originally from Kansas
and in Kansas also, uh, they, they almost immediately put back capital punishment
and, uh, there they do it by hanging.
Wow.
Still, uh, they have,
I still remember the, the, the movie, uh, IN COLD BLOOD.
I don't know if... |
I mean, the, the movie was made in, like, nineteen sixty-two or something like that
Huh.
and so it's, uh, it's not particularly graphic,
but on the other hand it's, it's fairly impressive to watch them, you know, walk into the room with gallows.
It's kind of a barn like structure.
Wow.
I think they're there,
I think th... |
So they don't know who killed,
Has a real bullets
and the rest of them have blanks?
Right.
Yeah,
I, I certainly wouldn't want to be the executioner,
I know that
Yeah,
no.
I've always said that if I, if I had to kill and clean and do my own, my own meat, I think I'd become a vegetarian.
I know.
As long as you're sort of... |
May be two different things.
Oh, well, if you, if you had all your, all the money in the world or something.
If I had all the money I wanted, then that's whole different matter.
No,
in that case, I'd, I'd, I don't know.
I, I, my dream car for years was a, was a Porsche Turbo .
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, I don't know if I... |
we just, we, well, I have
my car is the first one we ever bought new, too.
Uh-huh.
But we just bought another used car, a couple weeks ago, actually.
Uh-huh,
yeah
me too
So what car do you drive?
What is it?
Uh, mine is a Honda Accord.
Uh-huh,
we almost bought one of those.
Do you like it?
Yeah,
I do,
and, and, um, it'... |
and mine is a standard
Yeah.
and the reason I got a standard was because I thought it handled a lot better
Uh-huh.
it had a lot more pickup and everything.
Yeah,
you get a little more control over when when it's doing the things it's doing.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Uh, what, what rental agent did you go to to actually rent to ren... |
I'm not sure those are AVIS or not,
but we have corporate contracts you know, with the various companies
I see.
Uh-huh.
so it depends on your destination, too.
Right.
Kind of strange
You work for a big company, then.
Work for T I. Uh-huh, which is how I heard about this
T I, I see.
Uh-huh. Um,
but yeah,
I, I, uh, I don... |
It did, huh.
Yeah,
they had a whole bunch of things that, that sort of broke at the same time
Oh, my gosh.
and the bill would have been over fifteen hundred dollars,
and I had to pay twenty five for the,
Oh, that was great.
Yeah,
it was.
That's unusual to hear,
usually, you know something breaks,
you look at the warran... |
and of course I'm glad I did it.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that is good.
But, um, we still have, we still have like, you know, three years left on it.
Yeah,
well, I've been lucky.
Mine hasn't had any trouble except last week a shopping cart crashed into it
Oh, no.
but I was real lucky because it just hit the, um the lens to the ligh... |
Um, I probably wouldn't, just because I already have one
Uh-huh.
but, you know, if I had to make the choice again, I, yeah, I, I'm perfectly happy with what I decided um, although we did just buy another car,
Uh-huh.
and that's a Legend
Oh, yeah,
those are nice .
um, but it's, it's a used one
Uh-huh.
and, um, my husban... |
And.
Yeah,
my sister drives one.
She drives a, uh, I don't know, is it Legend
Uh-huh.
it's a,
I'm not certain,
but she's liked it. Um,
Yeah.
But, I, I have, I have never had,
and we,
in fact, what I'm driving right now,
we bought a, we only had one car for a long time,
and and yet most of our usage of the car was just ... |
Oh, well, it's, uh, it's worked.
Hasn't left you stranded.
I mean, that's exactly what it is, you know,
it's just a, it's a cheap little little car just to go, you know, run around town in
Yeah
I know.
Yeah.
and, uh. It's actually kind of fun to drive.
I, I,
you know, getting back in the Daytona now, I almost don't lik... |
it's kind of,
I can't drive that,
the Legend, it's just so huge.
Oh.
I, I don't like it,
and it's so, uh,
So, uh, what kind of home repair work have you done?
Well, um, done a little, uh, repair on the, uh, shingles on the roof recently.
We've had a lot of wind around here.
Been pulling them up, huh, or just loosening ... |
But you're probably, what, about halfway across the state from San Antonio, though, aren't you?
Well, we're up, uh, we're north and, uh, oh, about, uh, I don't know, uh, eighty to a hundred miles south of the Oklahoma line, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah,
okay.
But you're still getting a good bit of the rain, though.
Uh, we did h... |
Yeah
Did you put them up originally or just going up and stopping leaks in them?
No,
I,
uh, as a matter of fact, we've never had a leak actually yet.
Now this,
we just bought the house last year,
and, uh, uh, just before we took possession of it we had a fellow go up there and do whatever needed to be done on the shing... |
Uh, parts of it are steeper than others.
What do you use to keep from sliding off that rascal?
Well, uh, you wear, uh, shoes with good traction, and, and, and try to remember where you are at all times
Yeah,
I imagine, I imagine.
And remember to yell Geronimo, if all else fails.
Yeah,
yeah,
that would be just too much ... |
Thing is,
we've, uh, the main thing that we've had with this house recently has been some, uh, squirming, I call it, of the foundation.
We're just on a concrete slab, you know
Yeah.
but, uh, the soil right under this is a clay,
and it, uh,
It's settling unevenly?
Well, it, uh, depending on its moisture content, it eith... |
uh, I think, with, uh
Wood framing?
yeah,
right.
Okay.
But, uh, somehow or other that does manage to, uh, show these little cracks.
I don't know quite how that works.
Maybe it isn't drywall.
I don't really know.
they plastered over drywall.
Yeah,
I think it is.
I remember my parents home is drywalled and then they, uh,... |
Yeah,
that's good.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that would, that would be in terribly, terribly exasperating to have the, the slab floor like that swelling and giving like that.
Yes,
well, the previous owner had a major problem with it, because, uh, oh probably a variety of things.
His neighbor used,
return anything.
Well, really, the... |
Uh-huh.
What age are your children?
I have a five and a half and a three and a half year old that play with them
Uh-huh
And, uh, I don't think they're unduly rough,
but maybe they are.
I don't know.
But, uh, a lot of the little Barbie sets they come with real little pieces
and they're easily lost and easily broken
but,... |
Don't remember her breaking, uh,
No,
I don't.
But I also don't remember lots of little pieces
They've got so many different things with it now.
Well, that's one thing they've got.
They've got every type of imaginable,
camping on the beach, and all of these come with, oh, like tiny, tiny little plates and little sunglas... |
Any direction.
she's not that strong, that I would she's not that big of a girl that I think could really take a grip on it like a bigger kid could, you know.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Yeah.
The main thing that they've, they had when my daughter was playing with Barbies was just clothes.
Yes.
You know, that was about it.
That wa... |
We, uh, haven't had that much, you know, problem with things that we have bought.
They seem to, to last.
In fact, when they offer us extended warranties, we, we don't buy them because we've,
Don't buy them because you don't need them.
Yes.
And, uh, it seems like it's just a, an added tack on.
Plus a lot of the credit c... |
In fact, they usually,
when they do go out, it's either something my husband can buy the part and fix
and we don't even have a repairman come,
or it means it's old enough that it's time to replace the whole thing.
It's time to replace it.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
So, I mean,
I think these extended warranties are gimmicks, really.
... |
You never, you always think gosh, if I say no, then I won't, you know.
Uh-huh.
But,
Well, my husband finally just put his foot down
I don't know.
and he said we're not going to buy any of these anymore,
and if it goes out, well you know.
You probably got your worth out of it anyway.
Uh-huh,
and, uh, so we really hav... |
and you look at the different ones and find the ones that have the,
So, uh, what do you think about child care
Oh, well, my, my feelings on it is, uh, I wouldn't take a child to day-care You know?
Right.
I mean, I'd, I'd wind up, uh,
just a baby-sitter in a home.
Probably find someone,
how come you wouldn't take them t... |
I mean I'm sure there's some good ones,
but I just,
I don't think that I would, uh,
I took, uh, Cammy to a oh,
it was a preschool day-care type of thing.
Oh, uh-huh.
But I kind of, I liked it some ways
and some ways I didn't
Uh, I think the ratio of kids to teacher is really important.
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
And,
How was it?
... |
Oh, you know, one thing I noticed is, uh, uh, just, they were trying to get her to, teach her to write her name,
and, uh, I didn't notice it until this summer when I was working with her that she would bend her wrist all the way, oh, not in a natural form.
Oh, she did?
Yes,
and, uh, I was kind of mad that they had neve... |
No.
Huh.
They never,
Or just never said anything.
Course, like I said, I took her two days a week
and maybe that was,
my main reason for taking her was, uh, just social skills more than anything else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I felt she needed the
just, I didn't feel like she was mature enough socially
Yeah.
and, uh,
Well, one thin... |
yeah.
I don't know,
it's so hard to take young kids anywhere for very long.
Well, I think it's hard to leave them,
it is.
It is.
The older ones it's not,
you don't even really have any real worries, because you know that they'll play with whoever's there
and they usually adapt pretty well.
Yeah.
But, uh,
Yeah,
it, it i... |
then, then on the other hand I think it's harder to stay home in some regards.
It's hard to always keep yourself feeling like you're doing something productive,
and at the end of the day your house still feels like it's a mess,
and you haven't got anything done
and
Oh, yeah.
what am I going to fix for supper
Oh, yeah,
... |
So,
Huh.
But, I think for taking kids to a, probably people that take them to, uh, preschools and day-cares full time, oh,
they would, I don't know, probably just feel a different, uh,
I think, I just think it would be hard to do that full time.
I feel such a responsibility, even when we go out for a few hours that,
ar... |
Uh-huh.
Um, he's a real sports kind of person,
so he plays tennis with, with the kids.
We all kind of play tennis as a family,
except the baby plays in the playground.
Uh-huh.
We take turns with her.
Um, uh, let's see,
we have a computer
and we do a lot of things with the kids on the computer.
Um, uh, let's what else w... |
Uh, my little girl, Jennifer, likes to do crafty things,
and I'll take some time and do that with her.
And, of course, we always read a bedtime story at night,
and even the, the older kids sometimes sit down and, and will join in and listen to a story.
I'm, basically the story person because my husband doesn't have,
U... |
Uh-huh.
but, you know, on school nights, the two older ones get to bed about nine.
They go upstairs at nine,
and, um, now, this weekend we'll have a baby-sitter come
and, uh, my husband and I will go out to dinner and come home and, um, probably not too late.
Uh-huh .
Maybe Brian will still be up, and spend some time w... |
Yeah.
but with three kids and laundry and keeping the house the way I want it kept, it is hard.
Yeah.
I can imagine.
Um.
Yeah.
Even just finding the time to do the grocery shopping and everything.
Uh-huh
And that's another thing,
I'll take one of the kids with me grocery shopping, um, usually on the weekend,
and that's... |
Yeah.
So what do you feel are the current trends in the way families spend time in general, you know, in America?
I, I think a lot of people, a lot of people set their kids in front of the T V and H B O and rent movies and, and, kind of leave them to their own means. Um,
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I think, you know, it's very, ver... |
I'm a newlywed
and we're you know, thinking about having children sometime in the next couple of years
Uh-huh.
and,
Uh-huh.
And it's, it's very hard, because when you get used to two salaries, it's very hard to, to cut back to one.
Yeah.
And, um, um, but, you know, if you have the type of job,
I have a friend that's a ... |
Well, I think it's a big, it's a big, um, responsibility.
You just don't, have children so that you can continue the lifestyle you had when you were single.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you have children, you have to say, now, this is different
and you do have to give things up.
I, I personally feel that it is extremely important... |
That is great.
Yeah.
What kind of mix do you have?
A boy and a girl?
Two boys.
Two boys.
Two boys
Yeah.
Do you know what is on the way yet?
Are you
No.
I am just about three months,
and, uh, I don't think we really even want to find out.
I do not blame you
We like surprises.
So We will take either.
Well, we have got tw... |
Yes.
Oh.
Maybe, maybe you will get lucky and get a girl this time.
Maybe, huh.
We, we kind of like our boys though too,
so
Well, our boys, one, is, uh, he is in graduate school at A and M, uh,
he is in the Navy.
He is a lieutenant in the Navy
and the Navy is sending him for his Masters in Ocean Engineering
Oh my goodne... |
She is, uh, loves riding horses
so she goes out riding as much as she can.
Do you have horses?
No
She, just, she knows people that does, huh?
Well, that,
yeah
but maybe that riding place that is North of town that she goes to.
She rides English, and does jumping, takes lesson and all that kind of stuff.
Oh, does she?
O... |
but that is where the, kind of,
well it is a program for Advanced kids.
Advanced.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have heard about it.
Our little boy is in the first grade
and I, I taught school for six years.
Oh, okay.
So, I do know about that program
and
Well, my wife is involved
and she kind of heads that up for these kids,
and last ... |
Oh, yeah
I bet.
Huh, well so does she go actually out into a different classroom with, with, uh, other kids that are involved in this?
Well, uh, yes,
but they, well they have,
well you probably know a peace group that, uh, that they are advanced type. That they are special, well, uh, classes for peace classes.
I think ... |
Well, you will get to different levels.
I guarantee it.
Yeah,
yeah.
My husband is going to take our six year old to the monster truck show tonight.
Uh, okay.
They like to, uh
That will be fun.
both boy things
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
but we, we, do not have any real, uh,
like we don't really ski.
We have not taken our kid... |
Sledding, that is what you have got to do.
Tobogganing.
The what?
You have got to go tobogganing and sledding with them.
Oh, well yeah,
we, we have done that.
He, in fact, he just goes right out here.
We have got quite a bit of snow, uh,
last week we got a lot.
Well you are welcome to keep that
Yeah
You would like that... |
It is fun.
As long as you do not have to drive in it.
Yeah.
I,
no,
I do not like that.
I,
really, it makes me nervous.
Yeah
I had plenty of snow to last me forever.
I, I don't care if I ever see any,
well, I don't care if I ever see it,
but keep it off of here
Yeah,
yeah
Well, uh, I don't mind it,
but, uh, uh, the wint... |
and, it is too early yet.
Well, you have got, You have got five months before you will see that
Yeah,
we do, we do.
We have had a few early springs though in the last few years.
They have not been too bad.
Come about March, it gets, you know, a lot nicer.
Oh yeah.
Out oldest son. When, uh,
Okay.
You probably, uh, more ... |
and I have traveled most of my life
and I know just especially in the last, oh, ten years and really since,
in the last half of dozen years I see more and more women traveling.
Right.
You know, as far as boarding planes and driving cars and calling on customers.
I sell sporting goods
and even in our industry, uh, there... |
and I think that's a change you're going to be seeing more of in the, in the future, people having that kind of attitude that the father's going to take more active role in child rearing.
Sure.
I think, uh, it's the age old thing,
every once in a while you read in the newspaper or you'll see it on T V or something wher... |
Right
Yeah,
they forget.
Also, I think, uh, a good argument for that is in the area of politics, you know,
if a,
a woman Congressman I'm sure makes as much as a man Congressman as, and the same as a senator or whatever.
Right.
So, they certainly, uh, they certainly deserve it all the way.
But, I guess just the most sig... |
I think, I, well,
another thing I read, too, the other day,
this is not just for working women
but how much they're out there, I guess is
the car designers, uh, are starting to design cars with women in mind. Uh, because in the past the male bought the cars,
but now they're showing that fifty-five percent of women are ... |
so,
Right.
You know, she certainly did her part in help getting me establishing in my business
and she still works everyday
so,
Yeah,
we all do.
You bet.
I just happen to be off today.
Uh-oh.
I work, too.
enjoying it
What kind of work do you do?
I'm a nurse.
Well, good.
And I work at Medical Treatment Center, uh, which... |
Well, trying to think what else I can say in regards to this subject.
I don't know,
I'm kind of out of, out of things.
You see the old, uh, cigarette ads, you know, about you've come a long way.
You've come a long way baby?
Baby,
right,
and, uh,
Right.
You think about this when you come to, when it comes to a subject l... |
Uh-huh.
A two eighty-six.
I'm probably eventually going to get a three eighty-six. Um.
What do you use yours for mostly?
Um, mostly, um, word processing applications and, uh, just as a dumb terminal.
Uh-huh.
Um, but I, um, I think eventually I'll start using it for spreadsheets and things like that.
Um, what do you fin... |
Uh-huh.
Well, it's getting to be more and more like a Macintosh
Yeah,
it's, um,
I want, I want to be able I just want it more for multi tasking, which I suppose is also like a Macintosh.
Uh-huh.
Uh.
Well, the one thing I used to use a, uh,
I've never used an I B M actually.
I used to use a, just an Apple two E, which o... |
Well, see, what do you do?
I, uh, do, uh, consultation and, and testing of various kinds for, uh, English as a second language programs.
Oh, wow.
Um, and, uh, are these like, uh, do these programs, um,
are, are they based on, on a, on a, um, other language,
or are they based, are they based
like a lot of the, um, you k... |
Uh-huh.
Most of the stuff that I do is not, uh, interactive
Uh-huh.
and I use it for uh, data analysis on testing,
so.
Uh, to see how well they retain the vocabulary and things like that.
Well, just, actually, just, uh, item analysis, statistical analysis of the tests, uh.
Uh-huh.
You know, when you write a test you ha... |
and on my two E I had a hundred twenty-eight K
Yes,
it's amazing, you know, how, how like in the general user community the expectations have just grown so much.
I remember my first computer was a T R S eighty with four K on it
Yeah.
and you know, then, then we, then I started playing with Apples, you know,
and those h... |
Well the S P thirty goes up to eight
Uh-huh.
but I haven't upgraded it quite that far yet.
I think probably when I get system seven I may have to do that and, and get another, possibly another hard disk.
I don't know.
They say that system seven uses a lot of memory.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I imagine .
Okay, Bill,
right?
Yes.
Oka... |
I'd say I camp quite a bit.
Yeah,
you do.
Um, now do you have a lot mountains,
well, you don't have mountains in Texas, do you.
Where do you find places to camp?
Well, uh, we, we do a lot of canoeing when we go camping
Oh.
and we, uh, we also, uh, carry all our equipment with us
Uh-huh.
and so we canoe down the river a... |
but we have just found it just real enjoyable to be alone up in the mountains.
Well, that's good.
And, then the boys are, our boys are old enough now,
they're twelve and eleven,
and so, they're involved in the scouting
and they do a lot of camping with the scouts
Uh-huh.
and last time our one twelve year old went to th... |
Um, last year they camped in tents,
and this year I believe they will be in tents also.
Uh-huh.
Course I imagine it gets cold in parts of Utah.
Uh-huh,
yeah.
It doesn't get very cold in Texas,
so lots of times we don't even take tents.
Oh, is that right?
We just use trail tarps.
Oh, and what does that consist of?
Uh, i... |
and they'll keep you dry or whatever.
Oh.
Yes,
well, see, when, when we go camping here,
we have to take our big huge, heavy sleeping bags, and lots of tents
and, I like to sleep on the air matresses.
I'm not,
my bones are getting so old,
so I like to, I like to sleep on the matresses.
Uh-huh.
Um, so, have you had any ... |
so of course we don't, uh, want to go hunting.
Uh-huh.
But we got to see a lot of deer um, out and about
Oh.
and there's,
of course, we see smaller animals all the time,
and, uh, one thing that is a big concern in the evening, at night, uh, is, uh, make sure that all the food's put away and so forth because, uh, we hav... |
Oh.
But most time they run away from you if they, if they see you're up, you know
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
but they don't have any problem walking right by you if you're asleep.
Oh, my word
So.
Well, that sounds a little less fierce than bears.
We, we want to,
music do you like?
Uh, lots of different kinds I guess.
Uh, I like c... |
And I listen cause on Friday nights they have the, uh, they have what they call Saturday Night Alive
or they have on Saturday night, Friday night and Saturday night and they have Christian rock and roll.
Uh-huh.
So
you know, they have that type of music,
but they just have different words
so, I listen to that too.
Do y... |
Um.
Uh, we'll have to, uh
What kind of
I have a lot of friends that like country music
What kind of rock music do you listen to?
Do you listen to like that really heavy metal stuff
or,
No,
I'm more into, uh, older rock, like the psychedelic era, like, uh
Seventies and like that stuff.
late sixties, seventies, uh
Uh-huh... |
Like have you heard of, uh, of Carmen?
Have you ever heard of Kim?
Uh, now I've heard of Striper.
So the only one I can
Striper,
they're the really heavy, yeah like the heavy metal stuff I guess.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh, the first of Amy Grant before
Yeah.
was, you know, became more mainstream, top forty.
Yeah.
Cause she,... |
I imagine that she puts on a pretty good show.
She does.
Uh-huh.
She's real good. She's real good.
So, I like her.
Uh-huh Uh,
I like some country music.
It's just that I like finding a lot of it's,
I don't like the country music that's like my wife left me, my dog left me, everybody's left me.
Yeah
Mama got run over b... |
you know he's fine.
Reba MacIntyre.
Yeah.
I like them.
I don't care for the older, you know, like the dog left me stuff.
You don't like Patsy Cline?
Huh?
You don't like Patsy Cline.
No,
huh-uh.
I don't even really know who she is, you know
You know, so. But, have you ever been to any of them concerts that you like?
Tha... |
And I just thought that they done broke up and left.
No.
They're still together.
They're still making albums.
Huh.
Wow,
I didn't know that.
Uh-huh.
Huh.
Uh,
That's interesting.
In fact, I mean there are people you know that basically just follow them around, from city to city on tour selling tie dye and things like t... |
You know, they seem to have a really bad time with keyboard players.
They keep on dying
and they keep on replacing them
and the new one's in this thirties you know. Uh,
Oh, alright.
But, uh,
Cause they look pretty rough.
I mean, I've seen like picture of them
and they just,
Yeah.
Well, they don't actually look as rough... |
uh.
I mean it just just looked like they, got a bunch of retirees and put them in leather jackets and blue jeans.
Uh-huh.
Well are you into that that rock music, you know, all that druggy stuff and all that I mean?
Well, uh
You know what I am saying
like, I mean like they come on the stage
and like, you know, you,
they... |
Generally, I don't think they are.
Uh, my, my personal opinion is that, uh, the politicians are out for their own good because they, they're entrenched.
Uh-huh.
They don't ever have to go out and get a real job.
They just stay in their current job,
Uh-huh.
you know what I mean?
I agree, uh, with, with both of those thi... |
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