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And California seems to be taking steps, I mean, you, you read about the, the fairly , fairly stiff laws they put in on cars now they're, they're enforcing. The smog and, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah. But, uh, again, uh, that didn't occur without a crisis. Nothing will occur, I guess, without a crisis. I mean, even California was notorious for its smog years ago, before it even was an issue, out here. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, the greatest thing that happened to pollution in the last couple of years as far as I'm concerned, is the no smoking rules, on airplanes and in restaurants. And it, it really is a pleasure for me, although, I guess smokers don't think that. But that, to me was pollution , Well, that, that's, that's that's personal air pollution that was its most personal, personal, uh, pollution that I can think of. Yes, yes. Yeah,
well, I, I, definitely advance that. Well, listen I enjoyed speaking with you. Surely. And let's hope some, there are other people that feel the same way something happen. Right on, thank you. You're welcome. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Uh, national health insurance, I think, is a problem inasmuch as the quality of health care that people would receive. Right. Yeah, because, uh, the articles that I've read regarding national health service in Canada and England has indicated that, uh, what stay, stay in line for, uh, four hours to get an aspirin from a doctor. Right. Yeah, I'm, I'm sort of mixed on this. I think that the, the answer may lie in, uh, not in so much a, uh, national kind of medical thing that like England has but more of a, um, national insurance, uh, sort of clearinghouse or whatever.
I think that, uh, too many, uh, the problem with, with right now is that we've got too many different health insurances that people have to go through and, and I think that, I think you, you mentioned Canada. I think that they have a system where, uh, they, the government deals with the, with, I mean, you, you go to whoever you want but file through one, one particular, uh, setup Um, I see. and that way they, they are able to reduce prices because they've, you know, it's, it's all one, one centralized thing. Yeah. Well, I, I think that, uh, again having gone through a period when I was out of work and had to buy health insurance on my own, if you don't have a company supporting you in the, uh, picking up the major portion of your health insurance, the cost is almost prohibitive. Uh-huh. Right. Uh, I, I was listening, uh, on the radio the other day and they were talking that, something like this, I think they were talking about the fact that, um, the money that could be saved, um, in administrative costs and so forth nationwide by consolidating into sort of a national insurance provider, um, could, uh, could, they could make it, provide health insurance to, to people who couldn't afford it just by the money they would save. Yeah. Uh, we're currently, where I'm working now, under Blue Cross. I don't know what the total cost of the program is but for dependent coverage I'm paying a hundred and seventy dollars a, a month or something like that. Right.
So I assume that probably the total cost is probably, three fifty to four hundred. They're probably picking up about half of it. Right. And that's a pretty good policy, but if you had something like one of these, uh, health maintenance programs, H M O, uh, where the, uh, where you go to the doctor and it only costs you ten dollars and the insurance picks up the rest. If you tried to buy something like that, I'm it would probably be five or six hundred dollars a month for just the cost of something. Yeah, H M O. Yeah, and they're, they're fairly expensive. I, I, um, I I was on an H M O, uh, up until last year and, uh, through work. Yeah. And it was, I forget how much I paid a month but it was much, you know, is at least twice if not more expensive than the regular health care. Yeah. And, uh, the reason I, I quite was because of, uh, not because I didn't like it, I, I really kind of did. Uh, the reason I quite was just because the, the doctor a, a certain doctor that we enjoyed going to was no longer associated with that H M O so we, my wife decided she wanted to, to stay with that doctor, Yeah.
so, we went to the, to the, the medical insurance that we have at, here at work, Yeah. and, uh, I, uh, I like the, I like the convenience of the H M O in, in a certain respect because it, uh, even though you're, once you find the doctor that you like it's not a problem. You know, a lot of people complain saying well, I don't want to, uh, have to be told who I need to go to but, you know, if you don't have a doctor anyway normally it doesn't really make much difference. Because you can, you know, if, if you find someone you really like Yeah, that's right. and then, we did find several good doctors. And, um, like you say it's, uh, five dollars an office visit. And, um, my wife was in the hospital had our, had our daughter and I think her total bill was around three hundred dollars for everything. Oh, goodness. Delivery room and everything. Yeah. including a private room because there was a little extra that she had to pay but that was, that was still included in that that cost so. Yeah. It's really nice because they, you know, their, their attitude is different than, than a regular, uh, insurance, uh, health insurance, uh, the, in, in a, H M O, you know,
they're trying to prevent a problem by, by keeping the cost down at the front end, you know, and have you come in, you know, Yeah. they, they charge five dollars a you know, pop, Yeah. you're more willing to go in and try, to take care of a problem before it grows big. As to a company's benefit, to have a program like that because it keeps their employees healthy and on the job. Yeah. Because they don't have to worry about going in and, and paying, uh, seventy-five dollars to have the doctor look at you for ten minutes. Right. That's a, Yeah, I, I, uh, I, I really liked it. We both, my wife and I both did. You, you don't have to worry about filling out forms, uh, you know, for reimbursement and all or, you know, getting paid eight percent of, of whatever. You just pay the, the five dollars right then and then you're done with it. Yeah. But here again the, the doctor's practices in hospitals, have become fairly sizable businesses under themselves now. Uh-huh.
Uh, you take a hospital, uh, the physical plant itself, you have to pay your share of the operating of that eight story building, uh, when the rooms are empty. Right. So, they spread the costs out over, uh, all the patient costs and, uh, that's how you come up with aspirin that costs four dollars apiece and things like that. The horror stories that you hear about people going into the hospital for a week and, uh, it being, a four thousand dollar bill. Right. Well, they, and you know, they're also they're taking up the cost of people who can't pay. Right. You know, they, they get a lot of, uh, a lot of, uh, people who are just have to be there and can't afford it and so they, they know they're not going to get you know, get money from them Yeah. so they, have to absorb it somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. My daughter and son-in-law had a baby, here about, uh, what, he'll be three in August. Uh-huh. And, uh, their insurance plan that they're under encourages you to shorten your stay in the hospital. Right.
And like she went in, she had the baby and she was out in two days time. Right. And it was treated almost like it was an outpatient visit to the hospital, Right. the, the deductibles didn't apply. Right. And so that's one way, one way the insurance companies are trying to hold costs down is by, uh, okay, if you'll shorten your stay then we will, uh, waive the deductible. Right. Our, our insurance is, uh, is doing something similar where they're also going to So what movies have you seen lately? Well, I saw, um, lately I've seen SOAP DISH. Oh. Which was a, and that was a lot of fun. It was kind of a silly little film about soap operas and things. Well, see that's something I want to see,
Yeah. that's on my list to see. Yeah, it was, it was okay. It was not, um, not a wonderful film but it was, I mean it was, it was cute but not the biggest laugh I've seen. Oh, okay. I saw THELMA AND LOUISE. A couple of days ago, and really liked that. Oh, did you? Actually I saw it twice because I liked it so much. Oh. See that's also on my list. And it's very, it's really disturbing but a good movie. A disturbing movie, how do you mean? Well, it was, um, let's see. The, um, it's, it's different, it's kind of, it's an action adventure kind of, you know, shoot 'em up kind of film.
Right. But it's with women in it instead of men so that's kind of a that's kind of a twist on the normal thing. A switcheroo, huh? And it made me think a lot about, you know, you would applaud Bruce Willis in DIE HARD if he was doing this but you might not be so you know, so encouraging, of Susan Sarandon and then Gena Davis when they do it. Right. When the shoe is on the other foot and see how it, So, that was kind of interesting. I've, but I really enjoyed it. Oh. So, I Because that, that just reminds me of, you know, like back in school and, you know, the girlfriends just taking off for a day or something. Just getting in trouble and probably not that much trouble Yeah, that's kind of what it was. but, Right.
um, yeah. They had started out with that, then they got into lots of trouble. Before we found the shopping malls that's what we did. Uh-huh. Yeah, well, I'll have to put that, I'll have to keep that on my list then. Yeah. I also saw that Madonna movie. Oh. It's TRUTH OR DARE and that was pretty scandalous. Scandalous? Yeah, it was kind of, yeah, Madonna she's pretty trashy. I can imagine. And so it was, it was interesting I guess she does it for the social value of showing you what trash is, huh?
well, I think she kept saying that, uh, they talked about her, it, it was a film of her concert, um, tour she had taken through all, all around the world. And they were all to her at the Vatican city and wouldn't let her perform in Rome, and she, kept saying that her show was not garbage. Huh. It had a social message to it and, You just had to find it. You had to wade through it and find it Right. We never quite believed that, so. You never quite got to, I thought that was pushing it a little bit but, she , All I know about that woman is that she's an incredible marketeer She is. She's rich Yeah,
and she's rich and she, yeah, so. she's smart at what she does. She knows how to do that. She knows how to twist this around, huh? Yeah. What did you think about DANCES WITH WOLVES when you saw it? Well, okay, see, we're getting back to last year. That's probably the last movie I saw. Um, DANCES WITH WOLVES, I just adored it. Really? How can I tell you. Um, a couple years ago, I guess, well, maybe ten years ago I, I had read BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE and, so, you know, just the general theme of the whole movie was, um, pretty, Uh-huh. I mean I really liked it a lot. Right.
I mean it was a real consciousness raiser, I guess. Um, and I only bring up WOUNDED KNEE because that was what ten years ago you read and, and understood, you know, about the American pop, Indian population, Right. and then everything went away for a couple years, Uh-huh. and now it's back again. And, you know, it's sort of a popular view of, um, what happened way back then. Right. Of course, no one will ever know. Really I don't I know, I was, I wondered if, uh, the tribes that they represented the tribe that was the, the evil tribe, if they were really as bad as it made them to be. Well, who knows. I mean it, it, it sort of showed like two different types of tribes like one was a warring tribe, and the other one was, uh, vegetarian kind of, you know, feel good tribe. You know, sort of thing, Right so there possibly were because you know you always have conflict in the world. Uh-huh.
Nobody can get along peacefully Yeah, but I wonder I thought because they made a big deal about how this, this film was such a big leap for the, the people who, who were the ancestors of the, this Indian tribe and that, you know, that was so wonderful that they done that and they, uh, uh, I wonder how the ancestors of this warlike tribe if they were offended by the film, Oh, I see. if it, you know, you didn't, hear any press about that. Yeah. Huh. I thought it was a very interesting movie. Well, I think so. I, um, I have come to respect a little bit more the, uh, you know, what went on here, Right. but, but who knows how it's supposed to all end Uh-huh Right. You know on the, on the broad scope I mean, um, like if, uh, it, it, it had a much bigger thing I
meaning to me I think about, you know, just the meaning of, um, the freedom of this country and, and what that really meant. Right. And that was taking over somebody else's freedoms. And sort of trampling that Uh-huh. and, uh, so you know it, it meant something bigger I think. But still it was a I loved the buffalo scene. And I thought Kevin Costner was just, I got a little sick of his mug on the screen every, three minutes, I know the but he's the director, you know. Um, but, yeah, I, I just thought it was a really interesting, intense film. Well, that's good. Intense I think is the word for it because three hours went by really fast. That was, that was, it was, it was good. I looked at my watch only a few times, which is a good thing. Yeah. Ate a lot of popcorn.
But it put me in a really, it put me in a really bad mood, I don't know why. Did it really? Yeah, we there were three of us who went. We were just all really grouchy when it was over. Huh. So we decided that may be the mark of a good film. It made us think. And so, It made you think. we were grouchy. We felt guilty for being, Maybe well, maybe that was, um, but there are no answers, you know. I know and we, we had nothing to do with it. That, that can make you crabby, yes. We were not responsible,
but we still felt the thick blame for, what had gone on. Really, that's true. We could have, But it, it's, they sort of candy coated the western story for many years, Right. and, um, you know, when the truth, oh, well, it always balances out one way or the other once you get the whole story Uh-huh. but, Yeah. Well, I do. I'm just out of school so I've seen, a lot of Oh, okay. don't have a job so I shouldn't go see movies all the time. Oh, there you go
Um, I rented a good movie, um, called CINEMA PARADESO which is an Italian movie which is probably the best movie I've seen ever. Oh. Oh. It was just, wonderful. Really? It's, uh, story about a little boy in a Italian, a little Italian village, and he, um, owns a, um, or he works in a, a movie theater and it it helps the projectionist. There's a little, oh, an old man who's the projectionist and he befriends this old man, and then it just tells about their friendship that lasts through all these years. Oh. And it's just, I mean, if you don't mind reading subtitles, I thought I had to kind of get beyond that. Those little, you know, reading the little words at the bottom of the screen but, um, oh, I just laughed and cried and, I really loved it. Oh, I'll have to write that down.
That was a, a great one. Wow. And other than that I, I'll have to write that, have you, have, did you see TEXASVILLE? Are you into, Larry McMurtry? No, I I hadn't. I had read, um, THE LAST PICTURE SHOW and but that's out on video now and I haven't seen it. But I was interested in reading TEXASVILLE before I saw the movie. Yeah. Did you like it? Um, I, I read a lot of Larry McMurtry books Right. and TEXASVILLE is just like that. It's like very peculiar circumstances and very peculiar things that people do with each other Uh-huh. it's, it's, you know, and it's just sort of a,
Okay, uh. Do you have annual family reunions or, Uh, yeah, uh, our, the my mother's side of the family is quite large, or well, was quite large at one time, and, uh, they, uh, for as long as I can remember, have had, uh, a yearly reunion, um, back, uh, early on they used to, to rotate them from from to, to different people's houses, in the family. Uh-huh. And, All local. Were they like all in Dallas? Uh, no, no not, no, this was, well, I am actually from Mississippi, and, so that's, Oh. it, it was around there generally. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Uh, that's where the family grew. Just from city to city then . Yeah, and it was not only in Mississippi, in some other places, as well, Uh-huh, uh-huh. so. It was, uh, it was a big deal, but, uh, they tried to, to centralize it in one spot. So, in the past couple of years they had it at a state park every year. Uh-huh, uh-huh. We rent a pavilion and, and do that and that's usually works out to be pretty good. And, uh, they will rent a pavilion on a weekend, and uh Do you go back? I have not gone back lately. In fact, uh, this past Sunday was the, was the reunion, but I did not get to go. Uh, I have,
Is it choice or just business or, Not getting to go. Uh-huh. Uh, just, uh, the distance involved and, Uh-huh, uh-huh. uh, just not, I have a younger daughter now and, uh, I, it's kind of hard to get her, get her there, and everything. Uh-huh. But I am going to, to, uh, hopefully next year get to go back, cause, uh, a lot of the family has not, uh, on her side, my mother's side, has not seen, you know, my daughter, so Oh. Do you have brothers and sisters? I have one brother, so. Uh-huh,
uh-huh. And, is your mother still living? Yes. Oh, so, so you go back and visit with her anyway. Would you not? Right, yeah. I mean, either way there was family reunion time, or not, Right, I, I usually see her a, couple times a year so that's no, no big thing. But, uh, I, uh, I do, I do enjoy the reunions. The only problem is that now, uh, originally when we had them, uh, they were mainly my mother's Relatives, right. uh, father's. My mother's father's family had quite a few, uh, brothers and sisters. Uh-huh. So, it was a large reunion of, of, of that group, uh, from that descendants. Uh-huh. And, uh, a lot of those people have,
and at time, you know, they all knew one another. Right, right. And now it has gotten, uh, that, uh, a lot of those people are have, uh, have died off, or, you know, what we are left with is the, the relatives of, of, of that group. The next generation, uh-huh. And so, uh, it's not quite as close as it used to be. So, I think people feel less of a desire to really go. I know that, why do you think that it's less close than it used to be? Well, I, I just think that, uh, you know, at that when, when they were you know, the, those were all brothers and sisters a lot and or they were all in the same geographical location. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. You know, back around, you know, in the twenties and thirties when they were growing up, uh, you know, they were all located together, in one small community. Right,
right. Right. And as, as time grew, I mean when time went on the family grew and moved away and so forth. And now when they come together it's, it's generally, you know, like say the kids of those people who are not, you know, anywhere near one another and I do not think they feel the, the closeness that they used to be there. Which is a shame Uh-huh. but that's just how it is. My mother was complaining last year about you know, it's dwindling down every year, you know, that's just, I think that's just Is that just family's lack of priority, anymore, maybe yes , we get so involved in our work lives and just, social lives and so forth. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, yeah, I think that's some of it. But, you know, I have, uh, I, I, it's just the way, you know, I think society is now, is that we are not, we do not have the extensive family we used to.
Uh-huh. It's more of a, you know, a smaller, smaller unit, and you know, we, we tend to try to do things, I think with our immediate family, as opposed to the extended family. Of people that we may or may not remember or know, you know, very well. Right, right. Uh It really makes an effort on, to, do this anymore. Right, it requires a lot of effort to, to, to do that sort of thing. Right, right. I mean, I, I used to enjoy going, I mean I still do kind of enjoy it, but, uh, it's, it does not, it's not as many people there that I really, really enjoy seeing. Right, right. You know, I, it's going just for the sake of getting together, I think for the family. And,
Do you correspond with anybody other than your mother and brother that's in that group? On a regular basis, not just Christmas cards. Uh, Um, um, no, not really. in that, but, then again, uh, well, I, you know, I have some aunts that, uh, I, I, I do. That's about my mother's sisters, you know, Uh-huh, uh-huh. but I feel closer to them, because I kind of grew up with them. But, But, uh, as, you know, for the rest of that group, no not really. Right. Uh, you know, and, and generally when I was growing up a lot of those people, the only time I ever saw them was at the reunion, so, uh Right, right. you do not really feel that that really close to them. Right. In my, my, uh, father's family, we get together every year at a different location, either Dallas or Oklahoma City.
They had chosen Santa Barbara, California for this summer and, and did not get enough people that were willing to go that far, because most of us live either in the midwest, or like in the Texas, Oklahoma area. Uh-huh. And, uh, so they cancelled that one and, uh, are looking next year bringing it back closer, but we have a letter, a family letter, that circulates, Uh-huh. and it usually goes through me twice a year and what you do is take out the last letter you wrote that's on the bottom and put the, your new letter on the top, and then that's the way it's kept in order. And then, about twice a year then you are kept up with what is going on and when you meet them at the reunion, you do not feel like, I do not know anything about this person. You have, read something about what is going on and about their children and so forth. That's a good idea. So, you are kind of, half way acquainted that way. Right. And that, that's been a, that's been a nice way of keeping us all aware of each other, I think. Yeah. Right. We tried to start that in my husband's family. His mother's side decided they were going to have a reunion a couple of years ago, and I said, well let's start this letter, and it just never
my husband's sisters started it and sent it to us and that's as far as it got. I sent it, on to the next one, Yeah. and, and, but we are going in a couple of weeks to the next one, in Scottsdale, Arizona, for that family. Uh-huh. We are real glad we got together because since that, that time there were only like two of the, one sister and one sister-in-law of the original family left. And the sister-in-law died and the sister is in a nursing home, so, we are glad that we took that opportunity two years ago. Okay. Uh, well, since I initiated the call, I guess I'll start off first. Uh, number one, I have absolutely no problem with random testing. Uh, I spend an awful lot of time traveling on the job and I feel, I would be very comfortable if they would do drug testing for, particularly airline pilots and the such. I'd feel much more comfortable than I do now, based on what I've been hearing in the newspapers. So I really don't have a problem with it. Yeah. Uh, I don't either. I, uh, I've never,
I don't work, at home right now. I stay home with my children. Uh, but my husband works and they do have that at his place of employment and neither of us have a problem with it. We've, particularly, like you said with the things that the airlines and, and such. It's, uh, it's a scary thing to know that, uh, you just don't know what people are doing uh, before they go to work. Uh-huh. So, and the, the advertisements on television lately have been so, uh, there have been so many. You know, there's, uh Yeah. just about like train train wrecks and things like that, that I feel like, probably just for our own safety when we're traveling and things that would be something I'd like to know that's going on. Yeah, I, well, I happen to be, uh, my job is I'm supervisor of personnel safety for the world's largest paint company, so I,
it's very near and dear to me when we start talking about drug testing for random sampling and testing for cause, this type of thing. And even in our field we have people that are in very high risk jobs and we, at the present time, do not have random testing. Um. And I am pushing towards that. I, I honestly feel if people have nothing to hide, they shouldn't have a problem with it. Right. And if they are trying to hide something, then I have to know that, because we're we're talking major liabilities. Not only with themselves, but with other employees. Uh-huh. And I really, you know, they, they're talking about sports and sports personalities and all this stuff that I, I would much, much prefer having doctors and airline pilots tested on a random basis. Yeah. I, I have a real fear, but that at some point something's going to happen. And they're showing it with AIDS, so why, you know, they they ought to start doing something with the drugs So I really have no problem with it. Yeah.
Well, it's, it's unfortunate, I think, that everyone doesn't have that opinion. Uh, some people just, uh, I've heard some people just talking in our group of friends that they just feel it's an invasion of privacy and things like that, but, uh, in the long run, it seems to me, it's kind of like what they keep talking about the, uh, the AIDS testing with doctors or dentists and things and how that, you know, Uh-huh. they feel that's not fair and whatever, but, you know, those kind of things I'd like to know myself. Yes. It wouldn't be, in my opinion, I, I've had a lot of dental work done, and the last dentist didn't even use gloves at all, so Oh, really? that kind of, yeah. And, uh, so that kind of thing really kind of concerns me. Well, that scares me because if that's the way they are, I, if I were a dentist, I'd want to be protected, too. Well, you would think so.
Uh-huh. That is, because, well, and I worked for a dentist and that's, uh, you know, you, you come in contact with a lot of, of blood and things like that and it's real, real dangerous. Uh-huh. I, I would think, but, with all the accidents, just with, with, uh, everything happening with, just airlines just drive me crazy. People are afraid to fly now. You know, just because of, they don't know what their pilot's been doing and, and things like that Right. and, Uh-huh. I don't know. Well, you, where you're located, I, I do know Texas Instruments has random drug testing. Uh-huh. And I think they've had it for several years. And their program they had, I don't think had a lot of, uh, problems associated with it,
but, uh, my brother-in-law happens to work there and it, it sounded very positive. And I, I think it's great. I, I would like, I would encourage it. I'm pushing our company towards that. . Well, and, you know, if they do find someone who, who is, uh, having a problem with drugs and they can get them the help that they need. As opposed to just letting the problem go on with, without any, uh, support. And whatever, Right. Exactly. because a lot of people, seems like, would probably obviously are trying to hide that uh, from their employer and friends and family and things Uh-huh. and too many people are just dying. Particularly in our area. Right. I don't know what the crime is like where you are, but the crime rate here is just astronomical. Ours is changing. Yeah, ours, ours is changing, it's increasing. I live in a I live in a very nice suburb
and it's, it's, it's unbelievable what, what, what's going on and the drugs, the selling of drugs. It's just, it's just too loose. It's too free. Uh-huh. I just got a piece of paper the other day, uh, that now they have these, I have two little, very little children, under two Uh-huh. and I got a piece of paper from, from my husband's office, it's talking about these, uh, drug tattoos now that they have got. Really? That look like, it looks like a sticker and it's for kid, The question was on lawn and garden work. Um, how do you like it? Well, I don't do much of it here. I'm from, uh, from, uh, Colorado originally and there are no bugs there. And I didn't mind getting in the dirt there, but, boy, I'll tell you what, once I see these bugs around here, I'm just kind of out of it.
Oh, what kind do you have? Oh, roaches and, Do they really? Oh, yes. Cockroaches are awful here. Oh. Just awful. So I, Oh, and I know somebody that lives there, and they never mentioned that problem Oh, you're kidding, you're kidding. No, it's a well, maybe they didn't mention it because it's just kind of a fact of life around here. And, uh, Oh, my. They probably just take it for granted then. It must be. If they lived here, a lot of people I know just say, oh, I just stomp on them. It doesn't matter.
They make good fertilizer in the garden. Oh, yuck Me, personally can't, I don't have that problem, uh, it's, mine is mainly we kind of have an understanding that, uh, I, I said I'll do inside work you do outside work. Uh-huh. And so I get into the gardening part of it, the fun part, like putting in the annuals and things like that. Uh-huh But I don't like, I don't like it dirty No I have to, you know I have to say that's not exactly my favorite thing either really No, I don't know. We got the, we got the question and I thought, oh, this is going to be interesting. Two bits I'll get a man to talk to me, because they get stuck doing it all. But although I do know a lot of my friends do like all the gardening work. And this year we put in a new lawn in a new home
so, um, we've been fighting a drought here this summer and getting into fall. Huh. Today we just had a lot of rain Oh, really? Yeah, so it's kind of nice. I don't know how yours has been. Well, it's been real hot here lately. I mean we've had to actually have the air-conditioning on and everything but, uh, it's supposed to rain again now, uh, this weekend. Oh, I see. So, then, Okay. Well, we're leaving tomorrow and we're going down to New Orleans and from Ohio since we're right near Lake Erie this is going to be a switch for us for a week going down there, Yeah. and I think we'll probably experience some of your weather although I think they have more humidity.
But, um, as far as the gardening and things like that goes I don't know, uh, too much, too much about, uh, how much I really do enjoy it myself. Yeah. Do you like it at all? I, well, not here. I mean it's just, here I just can't stand to even get out in the, uh, in the dirt Just, Well, how about when you were in Colorado? Well, I liked it a little bit but I didn't, uh, I was working at that time full-time and didn't have a lot of time, for that Uh-huh. and so that I think really, um, hampered it a little bit. Well, and then, too, now like where we had the dry summer and we had to sprinkle constantly. My water bill was high. And, uh, if you have that on a regular basis in Texas, I think I would go with something very dry to keep it off, you know. Yeah. But, uh, and with children, um, you probably don't have time anyhow to, to get into it. No. Not really It's so, uh, okay, very good.
Uh-huh. I guess we've kind of covered our subject matter, since neither one is really into gardening, are we? Sounds like No, no. Afraid not. Uh, hopefully they'll give a subject I like one of these times Something I really know a lot about. Right. Okay. Right. nice talking to you. Nice talking with you. Okay, bye-bye. Uh-huh, bye. Okay, so you said that you live in Coppell. Uh-huh. So what is your house like?
It's a two bedroom, two baths duplex. Oh, well that's neat, Brick and, uh, Uh-huh is it one you're renting or buying? No, we own it, yeah, well, our side Yeah, yeah, well that's kind of neat that you can even though it's a duplex, you can still buy. Uh-huh, uh-huh. That's good. Uh-huh, yeah. Do you have any children? No, huh-uh.
Do you? Yes, I have two children, and our home is really too small for us right now Ours is, too. We outgrew it when we moved in. Yeah, we moved from an apartment that was really small, Uh-huh. and at the time we just had a little baby that was five months old Uh-huh. so we moved into this house in Garland, it's in one of the older areas of town Uh-huh. and one thing I really like is it has big trees everywhere Uh-huh. you know, lots of shade and squirrels and birds and real pretty, Um. but the, the house is real small Yeah.
it has less than a thousand square feet Oh, wow. yeah, it's real little. You all are cramped Yeah, and now I have a daughter, now my, the one that was five months old is seven years old Uh-huh. and the one, I have another one that's three and a half and have all these clothes, and toys and stuff that we're just trying to find places to put, Uh-huh. Oh. Uh-huh, how many bedrooms is it? Well, they advertised it as a three bedroom house because it has a built on addition room, you know Uh-huh Uh-huh. but the room that's built on doesn't have a closet Oh.
so, um, the people that lived here before us did use it for a bedroom Uh-huh. but we have always just put like our computer and extra toys and books and Uh-huh. you know, it's kind of a catch all room But it sure is nice to have it when the kids come over to play Yeah. they all go out there to play with the Barbies and that kind of stuff, Uh-huh. so. How fun. Yeah, that works out good. And I'm thankful I have two girls, because they're in bunk beds, and so, you know, they can share a room and, uh, make for more space that way. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And how old's the youngest? She's three and a half Uh-huh.
yeah, so, um, and right now we have their clothes on, uh, like double racks, you know, in the closet Uh-huh. we made a higher and a lower Uh-huh. and it works out fine, but they're just about to get too tall where the dresses are beginning to drag you know, Uh-huh. and, um, we're going to have to figure out a new idea. But we're, we're kind of looking around and wanting to move into a bigger home uh, hoping to be able to do that within a year or so Yeah. Yeah. so that would be nice. That's what we'd like to do. Yeah, is Coppell a nice area to live? Oh, it's a wonderful place to live, and they, I don't have any kids, so I don't really know,
but they say that we have wonderful schools. Well, I think I've heard a lot, uh, about Coppell schools, that they're real good Uh-huh. that's neat. Um. Do you, do you hope to have children, or are you not planning on having any, or, I don't think so, no. I see. Well, do you have any pets? Oh, of course, those are my kids Oh, yeah. I have two dogs. Uh-huh. Well, do they stay inside, or, Yeah, they're inside dogs.
Well, that's, that's neat. They're my babies. Yeah. Well, what are the colors in your house? Uh, um, kind of a mauve and gray. Oh, I bet that's pretty. Uh-huh, and then the kitchen's kind of a, a country pink and country blue, and it's all done in cows, Uh-huh. I'm a cow nut Oh, that's neat. I like cows, too. Uh-huh Yeah so. well, our house was uh, our house is very old also Uh-huh. it's like thirty-seven years old
Wow. yeah, and it was redone before we moved in, which, I'm thankful for that, but the, it was redone at the time probably when earth tones were in Yeah. everything is Yeah. like, the carpet's kind of a tan and brown and has, um, paneling in the living room, and lots of, lots of tans and lots of browns Uh-huh. Uh-huh. but the good thing is you can bring out other colors from that Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, so, uh, that's worked out good. In the, in the kitchen they put real pretty blue and tan, um, wallpaper had done it up with blues, Uh-huh. so that's nice, Oh, sounds pretty.
yeah, we've enjoyed living here. It's close to my, uh, oldest daughter's school Oh. and that makes it really handy, too Uh-huh, uh-huh. and she really likes her school, so Good. and we are so close to shopping and ... That's an important factor there Yeah, how about in Coppell? I've always imagined it kind of out, away from everything. Well, you know, now we have that new mall in Lewisville Oh, really, and that's just like a mile or two from our house Oh, well, that's nice.
but, when we first moved to Coppell, it's what, six years ago, we didn't even have a grocery store Oh, wow, and now we have four Oh. and Coppell's not really big enough to support four grocery stores Yeah, yeah so, but it does sound like it's definitely growing. Oh, much very much. Yeah. In fact, it's about the size now, I moved down here from Chicago, what, twenty-three years ago and, to Lewisville Oh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. and Coppell's now about the size that Lewisville was when, when I moved down here. Oh, I see. Well, when we first moved here, we moved here from Lubbock Uh-huh. and we almost moved to Lewisville,
that was our second choice, yeah, behind Garland, Oh really, we, at the time we thought we might buy a mobile home, So do you have an opinion on credit cards? Um, I do You do? What, what do you think about them? I think they get a lot of people in trouble. Yeah, definitely. I have one right now and, um, I just got it about eight, six months ago Uh-huh. and I find that it makes it a lot easier to get things that you generally wouldn't get Yeah, and then you don't stop to realize that, you know, you charge this for twenty, charge that for twenty, charge this for twenty, and pretty soon you owe a hundred dollars and you don't stop to think about it. Yeah.
I got in trouble when I was in the service quite a few years ago like ten to fifteen thousand dollars in trouble. Oh, my goodness. And then, you know, so I eventually got it all paid. Now I carry one. I have a gas card and a Visa card. And I never use them unless I need to Really? So but they, That's good. yeah, I, I made a rule with myself when I got one that if I couldn't pay it in full every month that I'd have to rip it up, so. Yeah. That's, and interest rates aren't none too shallow these days anyway. Yeah, but, But I know a lot of people that get in trouble with them especially, you know we have, I'm in Lubbock
and we have a bunch of college kids around here going to Tech, and they seem to get in trouble with them a lot. Uh-huh. I have, I have a couple friends too that have about three of them maxed out And they they can't do anything but work to try to pay them off. Yeah. And, and, and like one of my friends she has, hers is up to nine hundred dollars and she she only earns like two hundred dollars a month because she's going to school. Gee. And, and so I mean that's just enough to pay rent and buy like thirty-five dollars worth of food a month. So and, and pay for her like, like monthly fee like I guess you have to pay like twenty dollars each month is the Yes, something like that. so all she's paying is interest on hers every month. Yeah. It just seems crazy to, to me but, Well, my wife got in trouble one time with hers. She was making like, I don't know what she was making, forty-five dollars a month I think. And fifteen dollars of it was because she was over the limit
and fifteen dollars of it was interest so she was only paying in it fifteen dollars a month. Yeah. So and that was before we got married, so. But it's, you know, we sat down and talked about it and discussed it and it's, it's come out pretty good. Now we have a eighteen year old that's fixing to get out of high school and go to college. Oh, really? That's the first thing he wanted. Was a Visa card? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. So we kind of discussed that a little bit and shot that idea down right quick. I bet. You know, so. Yeah, I, I don't know. I'm about sick of mine right now.
I don't, But I think they're too readily accessible Uh-huh. and there's too many companies out there that are willing to give them to you and get you get you trapped. I mean you can always file bankruptcy to get out of it, but that's a lot of pain and hassle. When, you know in the olden days when my parents were growing up and we couldn't afford everything, we didn't have such things as credit cards. We just waited until time come around that we could afford it. Right. And you know, we had all the necessities, so And I very seldom use a credit card on necessities. I always use it for something I want not something I need. Exactly. So, Yeah, my parents are really good about not using credit cards. They are against it Yeah. I don't think they like the fact that I have one either. I think if card cards were as, as stringent as say a, a home mortgage loan or something like that where you have to, you know, be able to prove that you can afford this and the rest of your bills, we probably wouldn't have the problems we have.
Uh-huh. Of course, we wouldn't have the retail market we have either so I guess they trade one for the other. Yeah. I disagree with it, but they still trade one for the other. Huh. Well, that's good. I'm, it sounds like you kind of got your head together in the credit department for, you sound pretty young, so Yeah, I'm I'm twenty right now. Are you? Yeah So, just going to school and, and working so All right. it does kind of get in the,
when you want something that, like last weekend was homecoming and I needed a pair of shoes Oh. so I just went out and bought them and on my credit card. Yeah. I didn't really have the money to do it but, Yeah, it's pretty easy Yeah It sure is. So do you just have two kids or, Uh, we have a eighteen year old, seventeen year old, and a seven year old. Oh, really? Yeah. Neat. I'm from Plano, Texas. Oh, are you?
But right now I'm out in Provo, Utah going to B Y U so Are you a, you're a Mormon then? Yep Oh, all right But, this is a extra long one. What's that? They're giving us a lot of time Oh, yeah. They may not, they must not have too much traffic on Saturdays Yeah. Have you done a lot of this? Uh, fifteen or twenty I guess. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Do you do it every day? I try to every day. I, uh, I get calls at work, I get calls at home, so.
Well, uh, and that's an idea that's been around for, kicked around for a long time. I don't know that it's ever been seriously considered, uh, as far as close to passing, uh, any legislation or anything like that. But, uh, I believe Israel does that, don't they for their, Uh, yes, I think so. Uh, everybody has to do, has to do something. Yeah, I don't Or maybe, maybe theirs is, in fact, one year of military service for everyone. But, uh, Yeah, I believe that's right. Okay. And, uh, and I don't know that that's really what we're talking about. No, I don't think it's, it's I think of that. It, it couldn't be. Military service is not that much but, the, military used to do it
but the idea that, uh, there are things that, that do need to be done that could be done and then, uh, country would benefit from one year from, from everybody and even out the, the, uh, requirement. Yeah, for, for kids in high school, it could be in the summertime. Well, now that's a thought. Yeah. Uh, you know, um, it, it could even be done while they're doing another job, while they're doing, you know, a job to make money. Yeah. But, uh, it's, uh, you know, such a grassroots idea that it, I think the family would have to be involved in it. Uh-huh. And people would have to be convinced that, you know, I, I think the, the basic message is that giving is better than receiving Yeah, right. And that's not the kind of society we have right now. Oh, yeah, I'm afraid you're right there. But, uh, but, uh, anything like this that came up whether it, it quickly would be significant industry in, in figuring out how to get around it where people,
There's lots and lots of volunteer programs and, uh, but most of those are at least it, it's my opinion that most of those involve adults. Adults who have the time to give and, and, uh, you know, the desire to, to give. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's not, uh, you know it's not, uh, maybe the, maybe it uh, younger people feel like it's not open to them, I don't know. But it should be if it's not. Yeah. Uh, I suspect that yeah, that, that, that that's not the thing. That they, that they don't feel it's open to them it's just that they, uh, are more self-centered if you will and not, not considering, a voluntary , Yeah, it is kind of an introspective time of life. Yeah. But some schools, some high schools have actually started a program of like a visitation program to, uh, you know, areas economically, uh say less advantaged areas. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
And, uh, they, they promote service on the part of the kids to, to, uh, some of those people. So at least that's a step in the right direction I guess. Yeah. yeah. And, uh, now I I don't know it I, I think you're right that that's not the, not the way that the society these days is going, and I, I think we need to, we need to try to figure out some way to, to turn that around that everybody, It's really, it's really unfortunate because when you do, I do volunteer work for the American Lung Association. Huh. And I have, have done, uh, gone to work for American Heart and just recently for the Leukemia Society. And there's, there's no question that doing, you know, doing that kind of service you get a lot more out of it than, uh, than the people involved. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's really a gift to yourself and, and that's, I think that's a really important lesson to learn. Yeah. And, and maybe that's why we have so many people in society who are not, uh, not really happy, you know. Well, that could be. Because if you concentrate all of your energies and efforts on yourself, you're just kind of down the tube, you know Yeah,
right. Uh, it really is better to give then to receive. Yeah, I, I agree with that, and, uh, and I, I, I don't know what, what has, what has set it off or what but it, it certainly seems to me that, that, uh, uh, things in, in the last twenty-three years, uh, things have definitely gone towards, uh, very much the concentration on self and, and loss of, loss of perspective in terms, Hi. So, uh, what was the last car repair you had? Just recently I was kind of laughing when I, when I heard the switchboard talking about the question because, uh, I had to have my, uh, radiator flushed Oh. and it was getting rusty. And the thing that they forgot to do was to, um, to also look at the hose, and I had gone about oh, two days with my new radiator flushed and the hose burst. So I was stranded out on the highway Oh, no. Did you crack the block or what? No, I, I didn't do that thank goodness, but, uh, there seemed to be enough antifreeze in there, you know, left to do that
but it cost me all kind of money, you know, to have that repaired after they said they were going to, they had repaired it. So that was, that was a horrible experience just recently. Yeah, I see. You got lucky you didn't ruin the whole engine though. Yes, yes. That can be pretty serious. I know. I know. What about you? Oh, I guess it's been awhile for me. I'd it's been about a year. Uh-huh. Yeah, I had the, uh, the water pump break on my car. Oh. Yeah, I was traveling, uh,
I was going on my way home from Thanksgiving Uh-huh. and it broke like in the middle of nowhere. Uh-huh. So, I had to get it towed and then fixed and Uh-huh. big pain. Oh, oh, I know. I know. Especially when you're out on the highway. Yeah, that's where I was. Luckily someone came by and gave me a ride. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I know, well, you know, uh, living in Dallas, you know we've got, uh, bumper to bumper eight lanes of traffic and, uh, that was, that was horrible. Yeah You know to have the, you know,
your car is fuming and everything. It's already a hundred degrees you don't need that too. Oh, shoot But my car is getting old. See it's about six years old now, so. Yeah, so is mine Yeah, so I got it right out of college and so it's, uh, it's starting to show the wear and tear now. Yeah, I'm hoping mine gets me through. I got until May until I'm out. So when I cross that one I'll be okay. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah,
that, uh, that was my graduation present to myself, so. Oh, that's nice Yeah. Yeah, I know so but gosh, it's really starting to, to wear so I've been thinking, especially now is a good time to buy a car. Yeah. because I can't, uh, I don't know if I want to, you know, pay all these repairs now to start getting it fixed when it's starting to breakdown. Yeah, I don't want to do too much on mine because it will be worth more than the car is and it's not worth it Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, that's true. I agree with you there. Yeah. So I don't know, uh,
because I, I need to have it tuned, you know, tuned up and I don't know, replace some of the belts. And I was looking at the, uh, tires need to be replaced and so I was thinking just a lot of money I'm, might as well buy me a new car for that. Yeah, I got new tires last winter too so I'm like, well, that's the last major purchase for this thing. It's not worth it. Uh-huh. Well, you have to, in Pennsylvania, boy, you have to really have your car winterized and stuff, huh? Yeah. Uh-huh Yeah, we get some killer winters up here in the mountains. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay.
So, Lot of snow and a lot of cold. Uh-huh. Well, especially don't you have what, a lot of salt on the ground? Yeah, at times there's a lot of it. Uh-huh. You got to like clean out the underneath of your car all the time when you get a chance. Yeah. Yeah, well, rust and the, and the body too, huh? Yeah, I haven't had a big problem with that though. Uh-huh. So I've been pretty lucky there. Well, I think they get the new Z-bart stuff and everything to where you can, um, Yeah, that's usually pretty good. You just rinse it off after the winter is over and done with it. Uh-huh.
Yeah, and go like that so. Yeah. I usually like to do most repairs on my own though. Do you? Yeah, just because that way I know what's wrong with my car and what it needs and what it really doesn't. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. Plus if something goes wrong, I know who to blame. Well, I, I think I'm getting too old for all that. My, uh, I had four brothers and they used to drag me out underneath the car, and stuff so I can, I can do all that stuff but I, I think I'd much prefer to pay the twenty-two ninety-five to, to go have it done now so I can get my hands dirty. So, yeah. I'm just getting, getting to that age I guess. You just don't have,
your time becomes very precious so working on the car is just not one of those things I want to spend my time on anymore More fun things to do. Absolutely, absolutely. So, yeah, I'm trying to, you know, I just need one, I had two cars there for a while so I wouldn't have to worry about which car was going to run. Well, that's nice. And yeah, so but it became a hassle trying to keep up and maintain both of them. Yeah. And yeah, so that, One is bad enough Yes, one was bad enough. But I think I got rid of the wrong one I soon, I need a lot of repairs done on, on this one
so yeah, that was, uh, that was something else Well, are our five minutes up? Yeah, I was just wondering that I, I didn't, I didn't set the time or anything to, uh, Yeah, I didn't either. Yeah, put , Yeah, this must be a, a hard category. Well, yeah, I guess. Um, you know, unless you're, um, you know, big do-it-yourselfer. Um, to, you know, fix up your own cars and, and things like that. So, but I guess they were talking about experiences. You know, I, uh, uh, I did, my parents live in Ohio so I, I do know something about the, you know, the really cold weather. And, uh, I've always lived down here in the south,
and, oh, I took my car up there to their house and, um, I guess I had a crack in the block, and when I got up there the car, All right, uh, well, let's see, How old are you Lisa? I'm twenty. Okay. How old are you? I'm older. Older Older than you are. Okay. Okay, we are supposed to talk about places we like to go. So I'm going, and where are you from, where are you calling from? I'm calling from, uh, Provo, Utah, but I'm from Plano, Texas. Oh, you are from Plano.
My sister lives in Plano. Oh, really? Yes, her husband is the new Director of Admissions at, uh, University of Texas at Dallas. Oh, wow. Yeah, so, Anyway, so, where's your favorite place to go? My grandparents live there. That's generally our usual summer vacation. Where in Arizona? Uh, Tempe. Okay, I've never been to Tempe. So, That's where I'd like to go. What do you like about Tempe? Uh, mainly just being with family is it. We just hang out and my grandparents have a pool
so we go swimming and, uh, Pretty hot isn't it, in the summer? Yeah but we keep cool just by going swimming and it's fun to be with my cousins. They're up there also, my grandparents and my cousins. That's good. Uh-huh. So, Been to Hawaii? No, have you? Yes, in fact, I just got some reservations. I'm going to go for, uh, almost two weeks this winter. Oh, my goodness. Yes. It's the longest, well actually I lived there,
so I was there longer, but two weeks is the longest vacation I'll have ever taken there, so I'm kind of looking forward to that one. Wow. Around Christmas time? Uh, no, in March. Oh. We're going to go in March after my children's birthdays and get all that business out of the way. Wow. Yeah, so I think, I would like to go to Arizona. I mean, I was in Phoenix in January, last January but it was rainy and icky. Oh, really? It was the coldest it's been there ever in January I think. It's very cold. So, do you travel a lot But, I would like to go to Tempe. or,
Do we travel a lot? Uh, some, yeah. Well, I've been a, I was a travel agent. Oh. I mean, I have been up until just a few months ago. But I'm thinking of going back to work Huh. Yeah. So you know a lot of good vacation spots, huh. I I know a lot of good places to go. But you definitely need to go to Hawaii. Very definitely. That's your favorite? Yes, it is my favorite. My husband hasn't been to Europe yet and I'd like to take him there. And, but he's traveled all over the United States and I haven't. Like, I haven't been down south.
I'd like to go to New Orleans. Have you been there? I haven't. Where, where do you live? We, I live in Yakima, Washington. Wow. So it's cold and rainy today. It's yucky. Um. But we've had some pretty nice weather. We played tennis outdoors until last week, so that's a pretty good deal. Um. So do you go to school in Provo, Utah? I do. Do you use NuSkin skin care. They're located in Provo. I work for NuSkin Do you? Yes.
I'm a NuSkin person. Oh, really? Yeah, I sell NuSkin, too. I, I am my only Oh, my goodness. and best not only and best but I'm my best customer. Great Since we're not supposed to talk about this, though, is there anything more intensive for the eye area than the eye cream? Uh, Do you know? I don't, probably, maybe the rejuvenating cream is the only other thing I would use. I have that, too. I'm forty-two, I need something, I need more. Than the intensive eye?
Yeah. I didn't know if there was anything else. And I use the Celltrex. Uh-huh. But anyway, well, yes, NuSkin is wonderful. Good, yes. I think it's a wonderful product. Do you use it? I do, yeah, we get free products every month so, Oh, my gosh. That's great. Right, right now I'm getting about sixty bucks a month, free products so,
Yeah, oh, yeah. I've worked there about a year. That's good. Are they good to work for? Yes, they're wonderful to work for. That's great. Yep Anyway, so we're supposed to be talking about places to go and you have not been to Europe. Do you go to school? Uh-huh. Do you ski? I ski, yes. I've, Ski, you probably ski very well in Utah. No, I don't
Actually since I grew up in Texas I've only been here about two years and have gone skiing about three times. well, five times each season. Uh. Why did you move to Utah? You're going, oh, you are going to school? At B Y U, Yeah, I, is that where B Y U is? Uh-huh. Yep. Okay, I know some people that went to B Y U. That's great. Pretty good. I do like to ski. Pretty, pretty down there. Huh? Yeah, I, I said I do like to ski. So, where, have you skied? And it's, it's kind of nice being up here just because it's all like a vacation in itself when you get to go. Sure.
If you like that kind of thing Sure, so you're a sophomore. Or junior? I am actually a junior. Beginning of my junior year. You're a junior. Good for you. So, What are you studying? Nursing. Good for you. You sound like a girl that has it together. I would just encourage you to do a little traveling, though, before you get married. Because when you get married, you won't have the money or the time. You think, I know. So just, you know, don't, don't be in any hurry. I'm not, I'm not. You really should go to Europe. I went to Europe for six weeks after I graduated from college
and that was just, I, I mean I could have had that or a down payment on a new car and I took the trip. And And it was great? uh, I traveled with a group of sixteen other students. Actually they, there was two other graduating seniors besides myself, and we just had a ball. We stayed at, How long did you get to stay there? Uh, six weeks. Oh, really? Yeah. It was wonderful, so you should think about doing something like that. Uh-huh, I just had a friend that got back from Europe and she was there like all winter semester. We're supposed to talk about crime in the city. Uh-huh.
And, uh, seems like all big cities have plenty of that nowadays, doesn't it? Well, uh, I, that's, sure. Uh, I, I think it's statistics, obviously, vary greatly. I always thought of Dallas as being a fairly safe place. Well, it is, but our crimes up here, uh, as I think it must be in most cities now, but, uh, I was listening to the news the other day and they said they thought a lot of it, the reason it was up so was because of the, uh, so many people are without work nowadays, economy's so bad Do you really believe that? I mean, it, it's been up every year for many years and the economy hasn't been, this bad for so long, has it? That's a good point That's just what they quoted over the news. Yeah. I don't know if I believe that or not, but, it, it does seem up
and, What kind of newspaper do you get down there? What kind? Yeah. Well, we got a, I think we got a pretty good newspaper. Uh, we have two, the MORNING NEWS and the, uh, TIMES HERALD. Uh-huh. MORNING NEWS seems to have the largest circulation. I think it's a pretty good, it's a locally owned paper. Uh-huh. The HERALD is owned, I think, by the TIMES out of, uh, L A, or somewhere. Yes. But, do they, do they play up the local crime angles or or do they, Well, they don't, no, not really, uh, they don't play it up, I don't think.
Uh, but there, there is too much of it, you know, uh too many homes broken into. Uh-huh. Yeah. We had our, our, fact about, uh, last year sometime our home was broken into. Really? We, So this is a topic of personal interest. Yeah, we, uh, uh, I didn't think ours ever would be burgled into, burgled, but, so many in our neighborhood had been, and, uh, because we live on a corner and back up to a real, uh, highly traveled main street. Uh-huh. Yeah. But, uh, we were, so, uh, So, so you saw this happening in your neighborhood and you figured it wouldn't happen to you. Sort of, yeah. And I never did get a security system,
but since that happened, I certainly have. Yeah, what kind of system do you have? It's, uh, uh, I guess excuse me, just a standard. Uh, with the, uh, all the doors and the, uh, infrared thing, you know, motion detector. Pretty standard. Uh-huh. Is, Is this, is this one with some company that, that services you and takes your calls and all that stuff? Yes, yes. It's monitored and all that. Yeah. And, Well, is that a necessary feature to have somebody, you know, at the other end of the line or is it enough just to have a thing that makes loud noise? I think, uh, the thing that makes a lot of noise would, would suffice. Yeah. I really do. But, uh, this deal that was part of it for, you know, three years or so to pay the unit off or whatever. Yeah. Uh-huh. And, uh, but it, uh,
the monitoring is not that bad, though because, uh, uh, we've goofed it up, you know, several times you'll hit the wrong key, not intentionally or something and and they call back pretty quickly, so I guess it's, you know, I think it's all right. But I, to answer your question, I think, uh uh, I think, uh, that is a pretty good deterrent in itself, Yeah. whether it, so you got a sign up there that says you got this alarm system Uh-huh. And what if a burglar comes along and cuts your phone line? Well, it's got a back up system that doesn't work supposedly. uh, that if it's cut supposedly it notifies them anyway Supposedly. How does it do that? Who knows, you know. But that's a selling point. And I think they're probably, I think it probably does these things or supposedly pretty good. Uh-huh. Boy, they sure advertise them, you know, so many of them nowadays. Sure.
But, uh, well don't, don't you all have a pretty high crime rate up there? Well, yeah, uh, I'm not saying it's any higher than anybody else's. Down here, we seem to, or, or not here, but the statistics seem to say that. I don't know. I, I think it's the murder capital of the country now. Is that right? Yes. I would gather probably from drugs. Absolutely. And I think that's the reason it's so high everywhere. Yeah. But, I don't think there's anyplace, used to, years ago, you thought, well, these little small cities and all, wouldn't have that problem, but they do. Yeah. We've had relatives that their children were just as involved in it, uh, as anyone, you know.
so, what's the solution? That's a good question. I don't know, I don't know what the solution is. I really don't. And all these politicians make, make hay over, you know being anticrime, Yeah. but they haven't seemed to have changed anything. Yep. and nothing seems to change. And, uh, I'm not sure that anything will because these, if something could happen to make these people not want to buy it Uh-huh. uh, but, they want to buy it, so, Yeah. Supply and demand. Long as somebody wants to buy it, somebody going to provide it for them So, I don't know, I don't got, you know, I don't know what the solution is, I really don't Yeah.
I don't think anyone does, in fact. Yeah, what, Okay, well, do you have a pet? I have two cats. And do, and, oh, and two fish. Two cats, you're lucky. Your two fish. And what do you have? Well, my husband, you know, how, sometimes when you marry someone that you get along on everything except one major thing. Oh, no. My husband is a hunter, fisherman, outdoorsman, Marlboro type person who had to have a sporting dog. So we have a black Labrador. Ooh. Beautiful, gorgeous black Labrador, but to me, he belongs up in the field, you know, in the ranch, in the farm and, Well, because we finally negotiated that I was losing my mind, uh, he sleeps in the laundry room
and then he goes out for the day. But this, this is a beautiful dog and he is wonderful with our little girls and he is, he's, comes from a purebred line and there's nothing you could say bad about him, except that I was more of a cat or a small dog person that you could sit in the chair and cuddle. Right. Right. And this is huge. You know, course, when he runs around the yard, he just digs, he doesn't know that he's tearing up things, but he does. Yeah, yeah. And the worst part that I had with him, he's, he's three now was when he was, uh, about eight months old Uh-huh. and I did not know what to expect from a dog having not had one, and I left him in the kitchen with the little baby gates up while I was gone for about an hour. And I came home and he had ripped my wallpaper off my wall. Oh, my word.
And it was in the floor and I just about lost it and I called and I said, come home and get your dog. And so, he said, well, puppies just chew when they're nervous and I, well, I wish you had told me you know, Oh, dear. and it was about eight months later, he ate a piece of the linoleum. He kept picking at it and I didn't the, the tile in the kitchen and picked a hole in it So the last thing he did was, when I had sat out a whole lot of begonias in the backyard, and he dug them all up and brought them to the porch. And I told my husband, I said, you know, it's either me or the dog, and he looked at me like, well, you know Good-bye He loves this dog and every night when he comes home from work, he hugs it and talks to him and he's a good dog, so it's one of those things I'm just having to get used to and that's why I laughed when they called with the topic.
I thought, oh, boy, do I have a pet But, I, I grew up with cats and I'm very comfortable, I love my cats. Yeah. I had one cat for eighteen years. I got her when I lived in Hawaii. Oh. Before I even got married I had my cat. She's old. Well, she, I had to have her put to sleep last June. Isn't she? Oh, I started to say then you broke your heart. Oh, it was awful, it was just awful. Oh. But, and she just sat there on my lap, you know. Oh. She just, just waited
and, Bless your heart. Oh, it was awful. That makes me feel so bad. But her hair, but the bad thing was, though, she would pee in my husband's shoes. Yeah. Oh, no You know, and she just liked his shoes and he'd have these dress hundred dollar shoes. Oh. Oh, no Oh, it was just bad. And my closet and it was, oh, something. Oh, that's awful, I never heard of that before. Oh, it was terrible. And once she did it, you know, then she would, I mean, she wouldn't, if our shoes sat side by side, she would pee in my husband's shoes.
Uh-huh. She must have known he didn't like her or something. Or the smell or something. Oh, anyway, I, I, and I would shut, I would bar the closet doors, and would uh, clean the carpets and Uh-huh. oh, dear, it was just awful. Well, now, does your cat sleep in the house? That was very funny. They are, they are house cats. I, uh, well, I have two cats right now. Yeah. And, of course. Oh, yeah, good. They sleep with my kids. My kids, my, my fourteen year old son has an extra pillow on his bed just for the cat. Oh. But the cat doesn't destruct does it?
See, it doesn't do anything. Oh, no, I I'm not going to have a dog. See. We've had two dogs and, uh, they both got ran over. After we had them for several years, just nice little outside dogs Oh, no. but Yeah. were just my kids' friends, they would go they would go with me when I would go running and and the last one got hit, uh, as she was following my, one of my sons across the road to the school. Oh. Oh, no. It was awful. It was just, Oh, that is. And it just, it's too heartbreaking but they do dig up and they just, they just wreck things and I'm not a dog person.
They do wreck things. Well, I'm not either. Ooh. I'm not either and it's just been, I wouldn't want a Lab. It sounds beautiful, but, He's beautiful but it's just one of those concessions, I just had to make, but I kind of ignore him. Now today's the first cold we've had in Texas and it's really cold and drizzly and it's freezing Um. and people are doing their fires and I brought him in because he's just a wet mess out there and he's in the laundry room with this little carpet square and he's just huddled up like, if you'll be nice to me, I won't make any trouble, you know. And then my daughters both have hamsters.