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Is that, uh, let me interrupt, is that the same for both, uh, professors and, and also staff and administration, is that generally across the board, do you think or, Uh, yes, it is. The benefits plan is different for operating, for what we call operating staff, which are considered to be, uh, clerical personnel, accoun...
I'm a doctoral student in Florida right now Oh. but, uh, yeah, that's, that's interesting. That's one of the things I'd like to think about is in what kind of benefits they would, uh, they would cover and things like that. College programs belong to this T I A A, uh, C R E F retirement fund. Oh, is that right? Right, a...
You know, even if they give it a shot, it's still going to be black market all over the place, you know, That's right. That's right. I don't know. Coming from Texas you're probably, I don't know I shouldn't make stereo types, but gun control is probably frowned on quite a bit down there I would think. Yeah. It is, but ...
well I know how you feel. I'm, uh, I grew up in Nebraska and, and we always use to go out and hunt all the time, you know and man, there's no way. There's no way I would ever go for a total ban on all weapons. Uh-huh. That's just, I don't know. I just think, I think it's ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, It doesn't sit with me...
and you know, both areas are pretty crime ridden right now Uh-huh. Right. and it's just, you never know who is out there. Right. You know it's just for self protection purposes and then of course there's the hunting issue, so Sure. yeah that's good. What do you do, Jeff? Uh, I, I'm in, uh, program control for a company...
Oh, okay. So, uh, yeah. You guys uh, do you get much of a chance to hunt or anything or, Uh, I haven't had a chance to do any hunting since I've been down here. I don't own a shotgun, but I'd like to go bird hunting. Yeah. You know that's something I miss quite a bit. So. Yeah, uh, when I was in Colorado we went deer ...
I guess that what the scale now is, it's zero for, uh, for a complete, One for a total ban and, uh, That's right. I guess I am about eight or nine Yeah, I, I agree with you there Yeah, no doubt about it but, uh, I mean, if they can anyway get it, keep criminals from having guns which they can't Yeah. I, you know, I'm n...
Uh-huh. and then they check you out and make sure you don't have a record you know and things like that. I think that's a pretty good idea. Uh, and that's, I don't know, that's not a bad idea, but then again you can always get around that. You could go through the black market like you say. You know, you always be able...
Yeah, I There, fully auto, but, even well, I mean, a semiautomatic, I guess that's, It kind of takes the sport out of hunting Yeah. Right. You know, it's like what can you do with that, that you can't do in a self protection situation with like a seven or a twenty shot twelve. Sure. You know, you might do the same thin...
Yeah. But, uh, I don't know. I guess it keeps the shell makers in business. Sure. But, uh, I don't know. Anyway, that's about where I stand Me too. You, uh, Yeah, I am about the same way. And you, uh, have you eaten yet or whatever. Yeah. Is it seven o'clock there? Uh, yeah, it's about seven fifteen. You guys central? ...
Around this time of year you expect it up here to get down to about, uh, I don't know, ten or twenty degrees Right. and it's been up around forty. So people are, people are whining about the rain and stuff, but not too bad about the temperature. Ice is starting to melt and stuff like that so. Yeah. I am just up here fo...
so that's kind of hard to have a budget. My mother, uh, doesn't get paid much money, so her budget is, uh, just, uh, planning for I R A's. I see, I see. Well, good, I'm kind of in a different situation, but I, I, I went through that, too, when I was in school, but, uh, I was, I was working to get through college and, a...
and we do sit down at the beginning of every month or the end of every month and write down how much we know we're going to spend and set that money aside, and we also try and set aside money for savings, set aside money for the the kids' education college education, the future and, uh, set aside money for bonds Uh-huh...
Well, actually I have four kids. Four! So, yeah, I said a couple of kids, I, I guess I should have specified, I have four four little boys, Oh, my goodness. yeah. Four boys. You bet. Oh, my You bet. It's just me and my sister. All right And my parents divorced three years ago Uh-huh. and my sister had gotten through co...
Yes. and then, uh, before the divorce she had saved for my college. Uh-huh. But, uh, when we had the divorce, she just didn't get much money out of it and had to spend it all on getting another house. Oh. So now my dad's paying for all of my college of Well, good, good. And financial aid and scholarships. Uh-huh. I'm a...
Uh-huh, well, good for you. Good for you. Yeah, I imagine it, uh, is a little difficult to stick with a budget during that, during school and so it forth. Oh, it sure is. I, I know how much my dad is going to give me every two weeks Yes and I, and I don't spend over that Well, great, great. And sometimes that's a littl...
no. Good. I don't plan on being a starving artist Well, good. That's why I'm in college there's enough of those in the world, huh? Right Good, good, I'm glad to hear that, Wendy. That's usually because they're not real educated. They can't afford to have a really good job. Who's, who's not very well educated? The starv...
So that's why I'm planning and, and preparing for the, uh, education of my children, also try and set that money aside. Right. What did you major in? I majored in business administration. Well, good, you know plenty about planning a a budget. Yeah, but, uh, once again, Not very good it's not been a good day I went, I t...
Say what? I just barely got home from the university. Tell you what we can do is, uh, I can punch the, uh, one, and then after five minutes when the, uh, uh, voice comes on, we can talk all night if we want Okay, go ahead, fire away. Uh, I love the irony of, uh, talking about this subject on April the, fifteenth But, u...
Well, I mean, nobody taxes groceries. Oh, yeah, they do. Where? In Arizona. Is that right? Uh-huh. But we have a pretty low income I mean pretty low tax rate here. Oh, I think the, the sales tax, they just got to do something about it. Right. But that's the politicalness of trying to not create any new taxes. Right But...
I was in Germany, you know, for several years Right. and I'd a lot rather pay taxes here and have what we have, then have to live there. Oh, you mean, lowest end of living in spite of lower, higher taxes. Yeah. Higher taxes. Yeah. I suppose that's true, yeah. Uh, probably less so now than it was ten years ago or whatev...
Right. Yeah. Yeah, since, uh, I send my kids to parochial school, that . Yeah, that, that's probably a little tougher on you It's not, it's not quite the bargain that . But, I mean, I pay them gladly. That's a decision, I think it's a dumb decision on our part because countries like Canada and England and Germany do pe...
I do, yeah, that's true. I think in places, I think in places like California, people are beginning to find that in, in areas that are fairly well off, if you add the, uh, uh, people of various sexual persuasions and those who never intend to marry and those who are retired and those are, uh, just looking for fun, peo...
Uh, haven't, have, I have a wide variety of, of hobbies, therefore, my, my reading pleasures are quite wide. Um, I get a charge out of, uh, TEXAS HIGHWAY, which is, uh, very colorful, and, uh, not being a native of Texas, but being here eleven years have a tendency to, uh, find out the, uh, about the different areas of...
Uh-huh. How about yourself? Well, um, I have an interest in art, so I, frequently purchase and read, uh, books, mainly on water color because that's my big interest at the moment. Oh, that's great. And, uh, oh, I guess I like a variety of things, uh, lots of fiction, uh, type books. Uh, right now I'm occasionally readi...
and, and they give you books and, and the last book, uh, matter of fact I read was, AT AMERICA'S SERVICE by Carl Albrecht . It talks about, uh, who the customer is and being customer oriented, uh, which falls in line with the T I culture here at Texas Instruments. Yeah. Uh, one of its great slogans is if you're not ser...
I, uh, have attended some seminars that had some tapes that went with them, but, uh, I guess not so much books although they sometimes have manuals and things, but, uh, they would be things on like how to be successful and sort of talking to yourself. You know getting your, yourself in gear to, uh, sort of pull yoursel...
yeah. If he casually just walked into it and, uh, put down a Stephen King book and I picked up one of them I might be a little more interested. I don't know, I'm not sure I could take too much of Stephen King. That's a little, little heavy for me. Yeah, they're, uh, quite, uh, they're hard to set down because it's so i...
I think it's just focusing in on the issue and walking your talk and, and all that kind of rolls in together there, Yeah. but, uh, that's just kind of part of it. Okay, well, any other comments. Uh, not that I can think of. Um, I think I'm under my quota a little bit. I need to probably make a phone call or two Well we...
but where I am we have a like an extremely lax dress policy at work and it varies like every day. I mean from jeans one day to business suits the next It's pretty bad, but it's true, you know, in they tend to try to be, you know, real lax and supposedly the policy is like, you know, we, you know, we, hire these wonderf...
Yeah, you know, we're kind of that way too. I try to, I'm the same way you are, I kind of try to judge from day to day. I know, you know, where I am we work a lot with the customers and we have a lot of government folks come in all the time and, and, you know, if I know that they're going to be there, you know, you, I ...
Uh. and at that point, it, the warehouse was over across the road and it wasn't air conditioned, and, it, we were there like in the middle of the summer, it's unair-conditioned, it was dusty and dirty, uh, there was like a fan at the very end of the row and that was it. And so, we didn't really know we weren't supposed...
Well he called our supervisor and our supervisor, and our supervisor's supervisor, and it went up all the way to the head of facilities, complaining that we were wearing shorts. Oh no in He didn't at, at least say to us, did you know you're not supposed to do that. That could have alleviated a big problem. We ended up ...
And these weren't even really full ones. I mean they had a problem out here with it last summer, wearing these shorts that were, you know, the real wide full ones, you know, and these weren't even those. These were like pretty short, black, and they were very dressy, the were black velvet shorts and she had on black ho...
Um. so, it always gets annoying because the rest of us are going, well God, we have a pair of those at home too. It sure would be cool and comfortable to wear, you know, but. Well I've seen some people try to just come in like over the weekend because they want to use the TexTeller machine. Yeah. And they have said no ...
Oh definitely. I had a friend who worked there for a year or so and they spell it out. For men it's particular suits, uh, the pin stripe, and the particular colors of shirts and wing tipped shoes. Oh, my God. Oh, it is definitely lined out. Women are not allowed to wear slacks, you wear coordinated suits. I I couldn't ...
Wow. I mean it was like you can't have, you know, such and such facial hair, no beards, you know, and just really detailed. I don't know that that would be a good environment to work in. I mean, I see, I, I am more, I don't know about anybody else, and a lot of bosses may say I'm nuts, but I am more productive when I'm...
And we'd try, we'd try to say, didn't you bring any pants or anything. We're, we're out here in the warehouse, you know, you, you got your skid of, you know, that wooden pallet of boxes. Uh-huh. and you're going to have unload you skid look at the documents in the, in the boxes and then repack your skid. And she And sh...
And sometimes I wonder if stuff like that would, will hold you back, you know, if you don't dress in, you know, your dress for success business suits everyday if, you know, if upper management doesn't notice that and remember that later on, but, you know, I don't know if they do or not. You know, I see a lot of the man...
With the, you know, the little suspenders or something on so. We've, we've kind of had a variety there That's great. but, I think a lot of times it's, it's mainly who they're going to meet with, or they're meeting with people that they know is going to be dressed that way then that's how they are. Yeah. If they're just...
Well it was good to talk to you. It was really enjoyable. Yeah, this is, this is kind of a fun project. It really is. I've done some of the other speech programs, but we've never got to talk to another person, it was always just talking to the computer. Oh, yuck, yeah. So this is a little different. Well it's kind of e...
I think it would be a great idea. I'm not sure about requiring it, you know, of people, because people are going, you know, feeling resentful. I don't know, but I think it would be a great idea. Yeah. Seems like there's so many kids that don't have any since of, you know, what they want to be or do or, you know, they c...
I just, there was very little external. I think possibly what, uh, they're thinking about here, more external Peace Corps, Type things where we're sending people off shore. Yeah. Well, I think that would be real interesting for people to do, but, I guess, my concern about that would be the cost involved trying to train...
I know that they trained you in the language and, um, That's what I was wondering about was whether they actually, You actually got paid too, while in the Peace Corps, it wasn't much, Yeah. but I guess, they, you could put some money aside while you were there, your expenses and, Wasn't Jimmy Carter's mama that was in ...
That's, that's been interesting, though, the kids that have been over, you know, coming back right now, you know. Yeah. You wonder if being exposed to that for a while, what percentage of them would actually say, Hey, that's not a bad way to do it, because from what I understand, from some of the guys I know, you know,...
people will kind of set up their own little club, Yeah, that's true. And, uh, but if, you know, People that might benefit most from it might not go in that situation, you know, like people that really are trapped in a ghetto or something like that. Yeah. Might not go if it was voluntary, but I don't know how they'd enf...
he was in C C C during, uh, Yeah. And he was, uh, a rock rib Iowa type republican and the only good thing he could ever say about, uh, the whole Roosevelt administration was, uh, civilian conservation corps, Huh-uh. because he was in it. He thought that was great. Yeah. The rest of it was all hog wash, but that was gre...
Like to have a volunteer come here and rake leaves and mow the grass and Well, you know that brings up the interesting subject too, you know, what would you have, who, who, who would determine what these people do. Yeah, yeah. You know, if, uh, you know, if it's run by the individual state. You know like C C C was run ...
Yeah. That could be a complicated too, couldn't it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Suppose, uh, well, you know, they had a group who were construction oriented and they went and they, they built, uh, can't think of a good example, a swimming pool, or anything, you know, and one, you can, you can only build it in one place, you know, ...
Really. Yeah. Well, it seems like there's, there's a lot, you don't hear much on the news about young people really, you know, wanting to do anything good or anything like that, but you know, I'm sure that there are a lot of young people out there that really do have good hearts and are willing to help and serve and th...
it's, it's , it's just the, you know, here you are to the logistics of the thing again, you know. Yeah. Who's going to run it, you know, what, how, oh, it's just so many Yeah. Like, like I said at the beginning I've got so many connections with people in Central America. My daughter-in-law is Panamanian, you know, Huh-...
Yeah. but, uh, unless there was a flood or a fire or something like that, Red Cross, it was so many of them in it, that at any particular chance, your chance of having to do something was, it was very slim. Yeah. Yeah. And so, Well, we, um, belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which is like the Mo...
Then that's, uh, kind of a private organization, Right. you know, I'm, I'm familiar with, my instructor pilot was a Mormon, he was, he was a good construction, uh, you know, instructor pilot because he considered himself indestructible, Oh, yeah He had a direct connection somewhere, uh Yeah, right He felt that he reall...
but, you know, that it is incredible, you know. I see how they were organized in, Central and South America Yeah. and, uh, it's, uh, Yeah. Okay. I'll let you start first, okay? Okay. We, um, I'm presently living in a house, uh, first time, uh, we had the house built and so this is our, our fifth year in it I guess, and...
they're good for that, and, um, you can call it a home because it's a place to go home and keep the rain off your head, but as far as the costs for what your getting, uh, the longevity of the house is not, uh, is not worth it. How about in your case? Well, in my case my husband is not a carpenter, but, in fact, he's in...
and it's real pretty and we're all comfortable in it. Well, that's great, that's great, that's, uh, I've heard, I have another gentleman, friend of mine, who, uh, who had a house built as a matter of fact another guy is building one now, he's been doing it for three years and the city's a little upset with him, but I u...
and that helped. That was a big savings. And, uh, yes, and, uh, we had to hire, of course, the plumbing and the brick and everything else, nothing, you know, Well, that's great. uh, have you been in it long? Oh, really, well, have you any plans to, uh, maybe, uh, expand or move onward? no, we're, well, uh, our kids are...
and that can basically be, be put on any lot, in any state, any you know, so that's kind of, we just got with him and told him what all we wanted, Oh. Uh-huh. and he's charging us about a buck a square foot to design it and he's certified, and registered so at least we know we're, it's not going to fall in or something...
but, you know, we could not have one as large as we have if, you know, we hadn't did it ourselves. Sure, I can imagine. Yeah, I mean it's not an Eldorado house or anything like that, but, you know, it's ours. If your happy with it, that's all that counts. That's right. That's right. That's all, you only have to, uh, sa...
Okay, and it was nice talking to you. Nice talking with you, too. Okay, bye-bye. Bye. Okay, I think we're supposed to discuss our view of the Soviet Union as a continuing threat to the United States. Okay. How do you feel about that. I don't really, I more, I don't know about the government as much as, uh, the people, ...
and they can become very quickly a large financial burden, as, as one more stepchild we have to carry around. Yeah, I think that's, that's a real important aspect and that, uh, as the, the the most, the let's see, the more that we do, that we do or that we can do to help them become self-sufficient is going to eliminat...
They don't understand that to make that work, they've got to take some responsibility for themselves. It's not just the government's responsibility anymore. You can't just blame it on the government when they give you the freedom to take care of yourself then that puts some responsibility on you as well. Absolutely, an...
and it's really kind of, kind of late to, you know, to start, be trying to trade for somebody, especially with the salary cap that the Rangers have. Yeah. They're not the highest paying ball team around. Oh no, no, they're not, are they. But I, you know, I would, I would gladly take the salary of most of the guys, I'll...
I have boys, you know, like eight and eleven and we go quite often, to watch the Rangers. Yeah, I can imagine. I used to love to play baseball when I was a kid. Uh-huh. Oh yes, we're heavy into that too. I think it's more fun to play than it is to watch. Oh, I do too. Yeah. And I think, uh, what caught so many of our a...
Yeah, yes, uh-huh. no big deal, you know, it's just part of a day's work. Yeah, I know it, yeah, yeah. He's something else, he really is. He really is an, you know, as far as predictions and stuff, I really think the Rangers may come out real strong this year. They could do very well, they sure could. They because I do...
right. I really do. Yeah, they've got, uh, I guess all, well all their players are signed now. Some of them are not too happy about it but there, there's no hold outs. Yeah, yeah at least, that should help, So that should help. it sure should. Yeah, it should, uh-huh. But in a way, I really do, and of course, there's a...
Sure, sure, uh-huh, Cincinnati. Yeah, there sure are. I like to go watch the Giants when they come to Houston some times. Uh-huh, uh-huh, that's right. But, uh, I've never seen the Astros play. Oh you haven't? Huh-uh. Oh, I have a few times. Uh-huh. Uh, they're a good ball team. That's right. They really are. They sure...
Wouldn't it be something to have a World Series between the Rangers and the Astros. Oh, wouldn't it, wouldn't it though Boy, I tell you that would draw a crowd, wouldn't it. Wouldn't it. It sure would. Oh my goodness, we might actually get to go to a World Series, huh. That's right, wouldn't that be something. Oh, yeah...
But they're saying this year, their predictions is that he's really going to come out of it and, be on top. Uh-huh, yeah. Uh-huh, boy, he's a bull, isn't he? Isn't he though, He really is gosh. he sure is. He either hits home run or strike out. Uh-huh, that's right. There is not ever a in between for him. That's right,...
and they're not sure they're going to be able to sign him again. To sign him again, yeah. Huh. Yeah, that, you know, may or may not happen. Yeah, oh you never know. That's right, it's a long way away. That's sure if you offer them money, I'm sure they'll, they'll do a little bit of everything. That's right. That's righ...
I mean, oh. Is there going to be a ticket increase this year, price, do you know. I hadn't heard. I haven't either, I, I really haven't, uh, The, uh, those Cowboys have increased their prices again this year. Oh yeah. But I didn't know, I, I don't think I've heard anything on the Rangers, or I don't remember it if I ha...
Uh-huh, it's a good idea, yeah. We, we try to go so often. Uh-huh, yeah if you have young, young children, you know, they, they get a kick out of it. Oh, they do. Uh-huh. Well, I've enjoyed talking to you. Well you too Lori And, we'll hopefully we'll get to talk again. Right, you take care. Okay, bye-bye. Okay, bye-bye...
do you have a favorite recipe? Um, yeah, that's what it said to discuss some maybe a recipe, well, it says, why would you, what you would have for a dinner party. Um, this is strange because I pressed one and I thought it said begin. Oh. Okay, maybe, maybe we're all set. Okay, we'll talk for five minutes, they interrup...
and I was going to try something weird which, you know, when you have fish au gratin, I was going to make some, uh, like fish chunks and dip it in the fondue. I don't know if it will come out. That's, what kind of fondue, the cheese dip or, Yeah, the cheese fondue I make, some people like swiss, um, I prefer cheddar. A...
I mean, I think they like to have healthy stuff too, you know it's, Oh, yeah, it's amazing how vegetables trays will go at a party. Oh, definitely. I think better even than, than other kinds of food Yeah, instead of something greasy or, Right, exactly. Yeah. my, uh, girlfriends do catering and they always, about every ...
It stays nice and fresh. Right, that's true. Or even have you ever seen where they, they'll take a watermelon and just cut the top out of it and then hollow that out, and then put the fruit in the watermelon that is really neat . Yeah. Yeah, I like those Yep. Um, they, they made a couple of those, uh, they made one for...
Yeah, you probably get this, probably pretty sticky after you get done. Oh, yeah Then you've got to drain the water out of the watermelon because, you know, when you scrape it, it makes the water. Right. Yeah. Yeah, um, something I do is a fruit, is, I'll get, um, make chocolate sauce and dip strawberries and bananas i...
Oh, I bet it doesn't mix well, does it? Huh. Yeah, no, they, um, the strawberries are coming in season now from , they're, they're coming up from Florida, of course. I live in Vermont, so. But they're really reasonably priced, they're coming up from Florida, so. Oh, well, that's good because I know they've been really ...
Of course, their seasons are switched. Uh-huh. Right. So, um, do you want to discuss the recipe? Well, I have a recipe if you want Okay, sure, Um, it filled , a lot of people try to stay away from this but I make my own homemade pudding just because I don't like box pudding. Is that right? I've never heard of that. Yea...
I mean, no matter how careful you are you still might get a film on the bottom of the pot. Uh-huh. I don't let that worry me. And I get the milk lukewarm and then I pour about a half a cup of cornstarch in it and I have this thing it's called the slender blender, it, it makes the, uh, it makes, uh, a whip topping out o...
and they used to whip skim milk into a dessert but I didn't get that one, I got the Black and Decker kind. But, uh, it's real handy because it doesn't have a cord and you beat this cornstarch right into the the milk, you know, and it does an excellent job, or just hand beat it. I guess you could use a hand mixer but I ...
you'd have to probably almost go out and someone who's just going to make it first time, it's, you'll have much better luck if you had one of these little blenders. And then you can add cocoa powder to it to make chocolate or after it's thickened I cook it for a good, once it starts boiling, I just, I cook it for a goo...
Yeah. our mothers used to use it. And then, I have some Yeah, we all used to, I just want to, yeah , it's the unsweetened kind it's not like Nestles Quik. Right. Okay. I suppose you could use that. Cooking chocolate. Yeah, but, um, That's really interesting, I've never heard of anybody making their own pudding before t...
and it was like red, and I'm like, oh, this is kind of groedy . Well, how did you get a recipe for pudding on your own? Um, actually I found it in one of my mother's, um, homemade cookbooks, I mean, something she had collected out of WOMAN'S DAY or something. Is that right? Oh, neat, So, that is just really neat. Becau...
Sometimes I put the cornstarch in a separate bowl and I would put it in the sink and I'll take my lukewarm milk and put it in the cornstarch and beat it good. It seems to be better than putting the, the cornstarch into the liquid it, once it hits the top of the liquid it seems to make little balls and stuff on the top....
Because I'm always worrying it won't firm up because it, when you take it out of the saucepan it's like, boy, I hope this thickens a little more because it's not like real package thick, you know, when you cook a package, it's, it's a little less, Uh-huh. but I put it in a nice glass bowl and, um, some people don't lik...
I knew that. That's , yeah, Yeah. so, that's why I do that. Yeah. So, well, I don't know that's my, my great hard recipe. Okay, have you ever served as a juror? Never. I've never been served on the jury, never been called up in a jury, although some of my friends have been jurors. Uh-huh. I never have either. You haven...
I think the major thing they need to correct is how long it takes something to get to jury, and to get to trial. True. And I don't know if that's just a pure volumes number or, or what, but, uh. Sometimes I think the jury is ignorant in the facts of law and how things should be determined, and they're too easily swayed...
Uh-huh, that's true. But, uh, I do like the idea of the jury being the, the people who decide in the matter of, uh, if it's a jail term versus life and death you know, the death penalty and such. Uh-huh. If they give them all the information. I don't know, when it comes to sentencing phase, I guess they tell them if a ...
they were going through a trial, and I think it was like on one of the, the documentary T V shows where they ask for the, the verdict by the jury Uh-huh. and they went by each one, saying guilty or innocent, guilty or innocent. Uh-huh. And they took it more as just like a majority. Oh. So I, I, Some of them disagree, I...
And, I did, I did also. Yeah, I I don't know how I feel about that. I think maybe, uh, majority might be sufficient. Uh-huh. It's hard to say though. What about in international trials. Do you think they should have a jury there? Oh. I think that would be kind of interesting. Yeah, I hadn't thought about international ...
So. But I think it would be kind of interesting to incorporate that concept of, you know, people from different countries, uh, in as international law also. Yeah, I think maybe they'd need to be more knowledgeable though than just your average Joe off the street for something like that because of the cultural differenc...
I wish that when they sentence someone, if they're going to sentence him to five years, then make him serve five years. Yeah, that serves a kind of if they're, I guess, uh, if you sentence someone to life, life is only forty-nine years, something like that. Yeah, I, And I guess you're eligible after twenty-seven for pa...
But, who knows. I think, I think maybe they ought to just be punished with some, some kind of real punishment, like hard labor for a shorter length of time, you know. I agree, get them out there, Actually make them do something that's not pleasant and do it and get it over with and get back in the, you know, world and ...
Nice talking to you also. Bye. Have a wonderful Easter. You, too. Bye. Bye. Well, how many credit cards do you have? Um, I've only, I've got about four maybe. I try to limit them because I, well one, I don't use them too much. And I use my Visa just for for about everything, and I pay it all off. So I try not to, I jus...
and it, uh, it caused more confusion about it. I finally said, Gee, this is kind of a waste of time. And then when A T and T came along and offered a free one, uh, I accepted that, and we've been using that one. Uh, the interesting thing is, is that, uh, the amount of money you can can run up on them. I don't know, do ...
I mean, I know a lot of college kids who have them, you know, who had them, but just depends. Well, that, that, that, I guess from the, from the card issuer, uh, that since, since it's, it's in, the parent gets it for them, that really the parent becomes the one that's responsible, but it's, Yeah, so basically if you w...
I, I like the idea of credit cards that, uh, I don't, I don't, I don't carry cash around, and, and, uh, I don't even carry checks around. I let my wife take the checkbook, and she writes the checks, and I record them. So it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, but it's interesting that, uh, the people that can, that can, uh, the amo...
The interesting thing about that is, is that, uh, that, that they're encouraging you to incur more, incur more debt, and, Well, it's, it's, it's business, and they're making money off that. And they make more money if you extend your loan. Yeah, and, and it's, so it's business, so, and you notice that they're, they're ...
Yeah, uh. It's, uh, it's interesting that, that, uh, they encourage us to do things, What, now what's ten percent, we can deduct, I think ten percent, yes. I didn't know that. Of your, of your consumer credit. Oh, if you had a thousand dollars, that means there's another hundred dollar deduction I've given you. I didn'...

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