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And that's not one of those things that you can turn the wheel back and reverse everything.
Uh-huh.
Well, right now our laws are so liberal that, uh, even with the death penalty in effect, I don't think that, uh, they're going to use it, uh, too frequently, uh, unfortunately.
I, like you, say yes
let's have it, put th... |
but I don't know
Well, I myself wouldn't want to be on the jury like that.
Uh, I, it, it's, uh, that's an awful lot to, uh, to expect of a person, to, uh, to kill somebody is what it amounts to.
Well, yes,
but, you know, that's what they did.
It,
true.
Very true.
But they, they did it because they have a warped mind fo... |
but I want maybe
well, I'd, I, now I have a problem with this, too.
I think our courts have too many opportunities for them to go back and get one more chance.
Oh, that's true.
Well now any, uh, just believe in just about any state in the union, uh, uh, a death, uh, or, uh, yeah, death verdict is an automatic, uh, appe... |
It's something of the they're on the distribution end.
Uh, yes.
They're not selling them,
they're distributing them.
It's for the large dealers is what, it's reserved for.
Uh-huh.
And they, they are in effect killing people.
Oh, oh, yes,
yes.
I, I believe it's any capital crime related to drugs.
Oh, okay.
I think that... |
But I thought it, I thought it was in effect.
I believe you're right, though.
I think it is.
And I have to agree with that.
Uh-huh.
I, I think it certainly should be one of the options.
Uh, I've been fortunate with my children and grandchildren, so far that I know.
I qualify that heavily,
because you never know,
but to... |
I doubt very much that they're, they're using it now.
In fact I'm sure they don't.
I think, let's see, the oldest is thirty-two
and the youngest is probably twenty-seven, twenty-eight.
Huh.
So, it's the same age bracket.
Yes.
And there's four, two girls and two boys.
And I think one of each experimented very slightly w... |
And I just quit, oh, about fourteen months and two weeks ago.
Boy,
that's tough.
Yes,
it is.
I,
and it seems to be getting tougher as time goes by.
My husband hasn't quit, yet.
And he knows he has to
and he knows he should
and he knows
and he knows,
Um.
but he hasn't.
I do respect the fact, though, that he refuses to s... |
Yeah,
I've seen all of this,
yeah
And, uh, but, uh, now I'm on, the shoe's on the other foot
Uh, I'm aware of other people smoking now.
Well, Charles will actually, Charles will not smoke in anyone else's house except our own.
Um.
He will get up
and he'll go outside, you know,
and he, he's
so, when we're invited to peo... |
Uh, uh-huh.
It's a, long process.
Well, the, there's a trick I use.
They used to leave my cigarettes in the glove compartment.
Oh, how neat.
And every time I wanted one I have to go outside and just take one. One at a time.
And, uh, that, that 's, gets to be, uh, a deterrent.
He has his in the kitchen,
It seems to me... |
when I was a freshman in college uh, my degree was in computer, uh, technology originally
Uh-huh.
and it seemed like it would,
they were just getting out with the, you know, the disks and all that, getting away with the cards, you know, doing away with the, the programming cards
Uh-huh.
Right.
and, uh,
Yeah,
thirty ye... |
but I sure didn't have access to one.
Oh.
And, uh, but, twenty years ago, practically everybody had a color T V,
and now I think they're as, almost as many, well,
there are more T V than households,
so it's close to getting, uh, one T V per person they say
Yeah
And now everybody, uh, has V C R and two or three V C R an... |
so you don't have to watch the commercials.
Right.
That's always convenient.
Uh-huh.
Yes,
you can watch a program in forty-five minutes instead of an hour
You skip the commercials.
Uh-huh
So, what was our question about, decline in
Wasn't the decline so much.
I think they just said the changes in, uh, social, social ch... |
Yeah,
that's another one,
yeah,
car phones is a good point, and, uh, cellular phones of all types and beepers.
Uh, ten years ago I was working in a job at a medical center
Yeah.
and I had to carry a beeper around
and they were kind of bulky
and all they did was just, uh, make a beep noise
and then you had to go find a... |
and you can still get your messages
Yeah.
But, let's see, social changes, uh, uh,
Where do you think it's, where do you think it's going to go in twenty years?
I haven't the slightest idea.
I was just thinking, though, about a, a huge social change in the last ten years is AIDS.
Yeah.
It was just beginning to be recogn... |
I'm curious what was your, uh, graduate study in?
Well, I, I was in English as a matter of fact, and medieval studies,
Oh, wow.
Uh-huh.
uh, but I went to work as an editor and writer,
so, uh, uh, the, ten years ago I was working in the medical center, uh, publishing a journal and writing about medical topics
Yeah.
And,... |
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
In my day, we talked quietly behind our hands about people that we suspected might be, sleeping with their boyfriends
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, they certainly didn't expect everybody to
and it was really only, uh, acceptable if you were engaged and planning to get married in, in the relatively near future.
Uh-huh... |
And some of the other ones weren't born.
Yeah.
So, sounds like America's going to become even more communication society with faxes and cellular phones and worldwide communication
Yeah.
and,
Electronic mail.
Yeah.
I just got on that this past, about a year ago
and that's made a difference in the way I do my job because... |
It's much more common for people, even teenagers to be going to Europe and South America and, Asia.
Yeah.
Uh, I was almost thirty before I got off this continent.
Yeah.
And, uh, both my kids had been abroad when they were still in high school
Yeah
I know that's what, uh, what my family was talking when I picked up and... |
So, uh.
Are you newly married,
or,
Um, two years.
Yeah.
Same, same situation here, I've been married about ten months,
so. Yeah,
I can, I can, I know what you mean.
It's, it's really hard, hard to find time to spend together when you both work full time and, uh, you both have hobbies that are different.
Yeah.
you know,... |
Yeah.
and, um, did some shopping and stuff.
Um, from the people I've talked to, I don't know if I should bring this into it,
but, um, a lot of the dads said that they would probably choose careers that are more, um, where they could manage their own schedule
and, uh, they could spend more time with their kids
Uh-huh.
b... |
Um, it, it would be nice to be able to have flexible hours
and, and maybe after we decide to have kids I, I might find a job that has flexible hours.
I I hope so anyway.
Um, but I would, I don't know.
At T I, is that where you work?
Uh-huh.
It's really kind of sad,
some of the people that I work with they, like when I ... |
Yeah.
the, the mom stayed home, you know, and raised the kids.
My mom didn't go back to work until I was in junior high school.
Yeah.
Um, so she was there pretty much all my, you know, formative years.
Yeah.
And that was nice
and I liked that
and I would hope that I would be able to give that to my kids.
Uh.
But I thin... |
Yeah
it's always that way until it's too late.
Until, until they're older
and then they look back.
Yeah,
it's true, um.
What's, what are some other questions they have,
, I'm not sure.
I know my parents are growing up,
I guess they never spent much time watching T V.
In fact, I've never seen my mom turn on the T V,
we ... |
I mean that's, that's almost like a T V a surrogate parent.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that's a good way to put it.
And not a, and not a very good one at that.
Yeah,
that's a pretty good way to put it
If I had kids, well if you had kids, what kind of things do you hope to do? like paper
Um, I, I hope to, of course, be able to teach t... |
And I'd, I'd like to be able to do that.
I'd like to be able to stay home and be able to spend time with my kids.
Do volunteer work and, be in clubs and stuff,
Yeah.
yeah,
I agree.
I hope that happens, in my case.
Yeah,
but, I think that's for the, the few and far between.
I think that, uh, probably ninety percent of t... |
Yeah
I never, I never had that kind of experience.
Huh. I, well I don't even think we had
I don't even remember them being around when we were little.
Yeah,
I, I see, it seems like that's, that's a big trend, you know, in the last ten years.
Day cares have, have, have popped up and become a lot more, um, a lot bigger p... |
Thanks
you too.
Okay
thanks.
Uh, bye,
bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Okay,
do you vote regular?
Yeah,
Every one.
But, uh, that's just since, in the past say about six years.
Before that I really didn't pay any attention at all.
Well see, that's me.
I've never paid any attention to voting.
Oh, you haven't?
Huh-uh.
Yeah.
I didn't use... |
because I get so angry about what goes on
and then I feel like I can't really complain too much, unless
Unless you have something to do with it.
Yeah.
Right.
But the problem is, that I am very liberal politically
and so I hardly ever have anybody that wins that I vote for
Oh, liberal,
by, what do you mean by liberal, u... |
but, um, I think back in the times when, uh, my political opinions were being formed like in during the Vietnam war and stuff, the Republicans were more, you know, what they called Hawks, which is more like aggressive in war and more pro war, and pro aggression
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and, um, the Democrats were the Doves,
the... |
or more, uh, they're less apt to vote in programs that involve the government running things.
Huh, okay.
So,
so have you ever voted at all?
No,
I never have.
You haven't?
Huh-uh.
How old are you?
I'm twenty-six.
Oh, gosh.
I know, I I,
Well.
well, I don't know that much about it.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
I don't keep up on it
an... |
So that's what they need, well, it, uh, they said something to improve voting.
Uh-huh.
If they could make it more, oh, easier to find out, you know, what's going on.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah,
yeah.
Like, uh, like to me, I don't, I didn't know what would have been wrong with,
I can't even remember who ran for presi... |
yeah
Ferraro.
That was a while ago,
that was a couple elections ago,
yeah.
Okay
Yeah,
that's okay.
Well, that's what I mean,
like I didn't know what the difference between Dukakis and Bush was.
Uh-huh.
You know, I didn't know anything about Bush or Dukakis.
So what do you think about, uh, what do you think about what y... |
That's what I mean,
if they had some kind of public programs where you can just go out and,
Uh-huh.
I don't know,
like you know, in school they didn't teach you about uh, the government, not really.
Right.
You didn't get any government classes?
Huh-uh.
Yeah,
it's really hard too,
because before they used to have, um, a... |
yeah.
I know how they do it.
Uh-huh.
It,
like with the abortion issues and stuff.
Uh-huh.
Yeah
they have to kind of take a stand on some things, like abortion and things like that,
so that's kind of, how I judge.
There's a few things where they have to say yes or no, like abortion or gun control,
or let me see,
I try t... |
Uh-huh,
yeah,
yeah.
And everybody's got, you know, stuff they don't want known.
Right,
everybody's got a secret
So,
Well anyway, I'm sorry
I didn't, I didn't have much knowledge.
Well that's okay.
Do you think, do you think, um,
I don't even remember this being on there.
I mean, what would it take,
like, God, this is r... |
now I'm sure they've got it at the library, you know.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I mean if I get to the library.
I've got two babies, so, I don't,
yeah,
Oh do you?
Yeah,
that will tie you down a little bit.
But I, I don't know.
Or do you just not, do you feel like it's not really going to make that much difference if you don't vo... |
Uh-huh,
I mean,
Well, not in my family
No.
We're kind of, we're really independent.
All split.
But a lot of families do that.
I know a lot of wives feel like they have to vote the way that their husbands vote.
Right.
And that kind of keeps from getting a lot of issues resolved
Golly.
I lie. Huh.
But well,
I don't know,... |
not that I think he was good looking,
but, he was young.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, I didn't think that was right, because he may have been a good president, or whatever.
Uh-huh.
But because it,
what,
he had an affair,
Yeah,
yeah.
and it just threw him out of the whole running.
Yeah.
And a lot of people go by their, uh, per... |
I think everybody does,
it just depends on how well you can hide it.
Yeah.
You know, and I,
that's very true,
I, I think that doesn't really have that much to do with, um, unless they've done something really horrible, you know, or something real abnormal.
Well,
Well, criminal or something like that's different,
Yeah,
... |
I think that's, that's having a big effect on how poorly that the country is being run, is that, um, the, the election, the people that want to get elected are turning it into a popularity contest by advertising the things that, you know, that really don't have anything to do with how well they do the job.
Right.
But s... |
people just had a picture of Carter as not being real capable,
but he, actually,
all right,
this
I thought he was great.
I thought Carter was good too,
and that was,
yeah,
Did you?
I always liked him,
I thought he was great at the time
and I, I just couldn't get over the fact that Reagan beat him.
I, you know, that I j... |
but I remember Carter
and I liked him.
You did?
Have you heard stuff about him lately,
do you know what he's doing?
No,
I sure don't.
Well he is just, he is really active still politically.
He's been overseas.
You remember when he was in office he did a lot of stuff for the Middle East, for
Well, what are your,
did you... |
the interest rate is so high that you're really,
if you're going to use credit cards you need to use that policy, I think, don't you?
Yeah.
Otherwise, you end up paying so much more for your merchandise that it's hardly, uh, it's not a very good idea.
That's right.
Do you have a lot of credit cards?
Well, I have a lot ... |
they, uh, make the mistake of, pushing all their cards .
There are times, when it's, when it's very useful, like, uh, emergency trip, or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes when you, when you,
the money will be available,
but it's, you know, not immediately handy.
I think, uh, they're very helpful, plus the fact that i... |
Right.
So,
Right.
That can be very handy under those kind of circumstances.
The other thing about them is too, if you really don't, you really need to get some and use them because if you have never used them and developed, and haven't developed a credit thing. It stops you from doing a lot of things.
If you, if you pa... |
so it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's a really big problem I think, and, um, takes mature people to, to treat it, uh,
Yeah.
so that it's, so that it's a real advantage to you, instead of a disadvantage.
Right.
I think, um, the way the tax system was, they encouraged people to use credit cards, you know, with a big write of... |
Thanks for calling.
Uh-huh,
bye now
Bye.
So.
Okay,
do you exercise regularly.
Yeah,
I sure do.
What do you do?
Uh, I ride a bicycle quite a bit and uh, work out with free weights
Okay,
I love to ride a bicycle.
I live right near White Rock Lake,
so I used to, I try to ride, about ten to twenty miles a day.
But, I haven... |
the sweat had built up on me and built up under my skin and caused me to peel.
It was the sweating, not the burn
Oh that's weird .
that was wild
But, I exercise, I don't exercise now,
I just had a baby three months ago,
I haven't really gotten back into exercising.
Oh, yeah.
But I exercised real good for a couple of ye... |
Was it for health, or, to look good?
Oh, I I just wanted to look good,
yeah,
I was think,
it wasn't really health related.
It was just a side benefit.
Yeah,
yeah,
because I'm not , I'm not big or anything,
but I'm not in great shape,
so. But when I worked out, I got in pretty good shape.
I didn't build up muscle, thoug... |
It's just some of those women that come up there looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger's sister just doesn't get it.
Yeah,
so what was, what was the other question,
let's see, do you do it as a task
or do you enjoy, enjoy working out.
I guess it's a task 'cause I can't make myself do it lately.
Yeah,
I think I, uh, I enjo... |
We all are,
so.
Yeah,
but, uh,
It's not hard to stay,
well if you keep working out when you're young though, when you get older, you know, your body's not going to look as bad.
I seen an old woman today,
she was about eighty
and she looked so good,
Yeah.
I mean she was standing just as straight and tall
and she had a s... |
so she may be keeping that on purpose,
so
Yeah,
I notice if you, uh, if you stay in shape you don't age as bad,
Uh-huh
I think, too.
I was, I go to school, too, at night
and last semester I had stopped working out 'cause I hurt myself and started smoking a lot,
and you just,
those kind of things age you more.
Well smok... |
Right,
and so,
Oh, I smoke a pack a day
an,
I finally quit because, like I just, all I was doing was going down hill fast.
I can't quit smoking,
I've tried.
I was telling a friend of mine that I'd be almost as bad as being an alcoholic,
Yeah.
I can't quit smoking.
I've tried,
I just can't do it.
I quit when I was pregn... |
Oh that's,
And I don't want to quit smoking,
I enjoy that.
I said I have very few vices,
I'll keep this one thank you
Yeah,
yeah.
But, uh, did you ever go to like one of those health clubs or anything?
I went to health club a few years ago,
and now I work out at home, because I don't really, my schedule with school and... |
or I don't want to do anything.
I wouldn't mind having, you know, working out with a friend and, and stuff
but when you get into some of these, some of health clubs where you just stand around and wait.
Uh-huh,
are you,
You know, I like to start, get it done and get out of there.
Uh-huh,
are you married or anything?
No... |
he doesn't have to do anything.
Right.
He can eat like a horse, too.
And he don't, you know, he don't gain it like I do.
But, uh,
Uh, especially having a kid, I guess, tends to just gain weight because you have to, to, to, uh,
Yeah,
you have to.
Well you can gain too much weight.
I gained a little bit too much,
but I l... |
I wasn't out of I wasn't overweight when I got pregnant with him,
I just wasn't in, in shape.
I don't know the difference
but,
Yeah,
some people are a little bit fanatical about it.
You know, I,
About weight?
Well yeah,
and about, working out and fitness, you know,
Exercise.
I like to, to work out to look good and stay... |
Now there,
you can take those, uh,
what is it?
Steroids.
Steroids,
yeah,
I couldn't think,
Yeah,
there's really bad for you.
I was I was trying to say hemorrhoids,
no,
I was trying to say hormones.
hormones.
Yeah,
hormones,
but
yeah,
uh, steroids.
But, I stay from that crap.
Yeah,
|
it's too dangerous.
Oh, I wouldn't, I could just see hair start growing out of my upper lip or something.
Yeah,
I had a friend whose brother did steroids
and as soon as he stopped working out he just ballooned out.
It all turned to fat
and he just, really looked bad.
Really.
Ugh.
But, uh,
I didn't know it did that.
I d... |
but, seems like it,
Yeah.
At least you got a chance to out run them that way.
Yeah
I don't like to run myself.
I've thought about it several times
and I just, it, I like to move a little faster and cover more ground.
Well they,
yeah,
they've come up that running is not as good for you as they thought it was.
It's proba... |
If it's hot, you can't do that.
But in the rain, oh, I love to run in the rain,
just, you know, be careful not to slide.
Yeah.
But you can't ride your bike at all in the rain, can you.
No,
you can't,
it's dangerous.
You slide.
At least maybe some of these mountain bikes you could
but a regular ten speed with those skin... |
I didn't hurt it too bad.
I scratched it on the, the oh,
she had some kind of fender thing going over the back tire, I think.
Yeah.
But oh well.
Anyway, it's been nice talking to you.
Yeah,
well.
And, uh,
Well good luck with the, the new kid.
Thank you,
she's, it, she's good.
Anyway, have fun exercising.
All right.
All... |
The, uh,
Um, we've actually had some warnings in, uh, Raleigh uh, on air pollution.
Oh, you mean for like smog and stuff?
Uh-huh,
because of there so many cars,
and we have a belt line around Raleigh where we're trying to divert traffic.
Huh.
And, um, you know, it's still, it's just surrounding the city,
and you can ac... |
that's causing the hole in the ozone.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
that's very serious.
I mean, we can, we're even feeling the effects of the weather from, uh, uh, the shift in the jet stream.
Uh-huh.
It, it is scary though, isn't it?
Oh yeah.
I mean, uh, the last two, uh, years, our winters have been absolutely nothing.
Right.
I mea... |
Okay.
Well, Kentucky's next to Virginia, I'm pretty sure.
Well, I'm from Kentucky,
I should know
but, I don't,
I'm sorry.
But Kentucky, we use to have severe, I mean, just real cold, cold winters
Uh-huh.
and we'd have three and four feet of snow.
Course here in Texas they don't have snow,
they don't know what snow is.
... |
real close.
How long have you been in Raleigh?
Um, I've been out of Texas about ten years.
Well, how old are you?
Oh, twenty, uh, seven.
I almost forgot my age.
Okay.
Well, we're the same age.
Oh, really?
Yeah,
I forget my age all the time,
so that's okay.
It's, I think it's just something that goes with the territory.... |
they get, I mean,
and traffic slows down to nothing.
Actually, they've been doing the same thing here.
It's, you know, it's kind of funny,
they, um, I guess northerners are different,
but even, uh, North Carolinians, they don't know how to handle cold weather.
Oh, well, no
I'm from the north,
that's why I said we, in K... |
Do you all have much pollution there?
No,
not really,
I mean, not to see it.
Now of course, there's, you know, T I is here, Oscar Mayer
Uh-huh.
and there is a few factories,
but I don't see much pollution going on.
Well, you know, what irks me is these cars that are driving down the road,
Uh-huh.
and you have that blac... |
Oh, yeah.
yeah.
I mean, school buses are notorious.
Well, they're burning that diesel fuel is what it is.
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
And, uh, it, it gets bad.
Well, you know what they've started doing is, is instead of the tail pipes being at the bottom of those buses they've started putting them up at the top,
Uh-huh.
and that w... |
well not back and forth,
I was walking home from, uh, the college I was going to in Kentucky.
Uh-huh.
And I was having to walk along the highway.
It was just one day a week.
But it was, in,
I, I have no sense of smell,
so I couldn't smell this,
but it would make me sick,
and I'd be real tired anyway just from walking a... |
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Well, they, um, you can really feel it, you know, in your breathing, even normal people,
and if you're older, um, I mean, you can really deplete your oxygen,
and it'll, you know, pass out,
Uh-huh.
and it's, you know, it's killed several people.
Do you, uh, smoke?
Um, actually, I'm a very, I just smo... |
Yeah,
because you do smoke one a day.
yeah,
in between people.
So that kind of threw them off.
Um. Uh,
But they're doing a lot of research here, uh, the E P A
For the air pollution.
For ozone, and oh, yeah, all that.
They're, they're real big into it.
They've got Research Triangle Park here,
and they're, you know, they... |
Uh-huh.
So, maybe that's part of the reason it's not so bad down here.
Uh-huh.
But, no
it would seem like it would be the same way in, on the California coastline, wouldn't it?
Oh, gosh, I think I would hate to live in California, the smog there.
Uh-huh.
I mean, I can't believe they have warnings here, which it, it's m... |
Yeah.
There was no trees where I was from, in Amarillo,
and here they've got the mountains, the beach, the trees, you know,
it's they've got streams, rivers, ponds,
Oh.
it's really pretty here.
Oh, well, this is pretty wooded area down here
so,
Is it?
in a lot of parts,
yeah.
I know Texas is supposed to be flat,
but th... |
real close.
I go there,
In Durant, Oklahoma?
Yeah.
You go where? Uh,
you go to visit them?
Oh, uh-huh.
Oh.
Yeah,
we used to go fishing in Lake Texoma.
Yeah,
well, down by Lake Texoma there's a bunch of wooded area.
This,
but, but Kentucky's beautiful.
They've got trees,
and trees are supposed to, you know, purify.
You ... |
It's supposed to filter the air for you, in your home.
Well, I'm going to have to get some.
I had one.
My husband bought it for me when my daughter was born three months, four months ago.
Uh-huh.
Do you smoke?
Yeah,
I do.
Do you?
Yeah,
I do.
Did you smoke when you, when you were pregnant?
Yeah,
I did.
I couldn't make m... |
Well,
I don't, I don't drink,
and I try not to cuss,
and I do, I do very little,
and smoking, I just, I got in the habit of it when I was about thirteen.
Yeah.
Well, one thing I miss is, uh, is the people from Texas, are, are, you know,
I miss their morals, their values and everything.
It's, uh,
Yeah,
we're down here a... |
and he got me into it.
Oh, I see.
Huh.
How'd you get into it?
Um, I, I was taking a voice I O class and, um, and actually doing some research,
and so they told me about this project.
Well, it's fun,
I like talking to new people.
Uh-huh.
And I, half the time, well a couple of times I've been interrupted by my little gir... |
Uh-huh.
But I've talked to people in New York,
but I've talked to a lot of people in Texas,
because I guess, it's because T I down here.
Yeah,
I've talked to a lot of people in Texas.
I had one call actually from Charlotte, North Carolina, and Virginia, and, um,
I can't remember where all.
From up north, like you said,... |
Oh, I bet you're glad.
Yeah,
he got out of it, his unit, right after Panama.
We went to he went to Panama when Noriega was doing all that.
Uh-huh.
Oh, gosh.
And, uh, he ...
Well, uh, it seems to me that, uh, that
I do not know whether the jury system, uh,
I, I should not say I do not know.
I do not feel very, uh, stron... |
On the other hand, uh, attorney, uh, uh, justices are more apt to, uh, understand, you know, the the prison crowding problems and things like that, and have that sway their decisions one way or the other. You know.
Yeah.
But, I mean, is not that, uh, is that a reflection then of what is really happening in the real wor... |
So, uh, yeah,
you might be right about that.
I, I, I do not know,
it just seems to me that only about, uh, from what I read, only about ninety percent of the only about ten percent of the cases come for trial anyway.
Right.
And, uh, only about, uh, four or five percent of, uh,
in the, in the very end
or less than, less... |
For,
and he only heard very, you know, piddly type cases.
Most of it was, uh, robberies or things like that, you know,
it was not any serious crimes.
So apparently even for the smallest crimes, they give the person the, you know, any felony anyways.
Yeah.
Well, I guess we,
they give the person the option for a jury.
Ye... |
Right.
Not that they won't appoint them
but there is no budget for them, I guess.
Or, and the courthouse that goes with them and the bailiffs and the clerk, uh, court clerks.
Huh.
Yeah.
Whatever.
So it seems, uh,
no,
I, I, I do not think I would change it.
The more I verbalize it, I, I do not think I would want to chan... |
People have,
I do not know,
they just do not care any more.
The benefit, I guess, of crime outweighs what the deterrent is.
Uh, and yet there are, there are so many, there are so many people in prison.
You know, people that,
I mean the prison population, uh, as far as I, I, uh, you know,
my impression of it is that it ... |
I would think that,
one of the things that sort of bothers me is the ability,
of course it is a constitutional right that the press must have here, is the interviewing of jurors after the trial.
I mean that, it seems to me that, that, that when a jury makes a decision, they should not be asked, uh, before television ca... |
yeah,
yeah.
It was like, well, a picture is not good enough.
We want to see,
I do not know what they wanted honestly
Did they want the guy to, I do not know. *qy but its' abandoned
I mean, just because you feel like he was being kicked on, which he certainly was, you know.
I think, I,
no doubt in my mind the federal go... |
One, one count.
Yeah.
But I do not know,
maybe when you are there in the in the courtroom yourself and you are sitting there and you have got to make a judgment on somebody.
And the prosecutors do a lousy job,
or maybe the evidence was not as sensational as the media presented it.
I mean, I, I am not making excuses for... |
Yes.
Oh, no
I am from Kentucky. Originally
Oh, well.
So,
Well, the topic today was gardening, and lawn care?
Uh-huh.
Ooh.
I know,
we are about to hit it in ten, few minutes.
I figured I could make this call and get it over with.
We are going to mow and trim and edge,
Yeah.
and that is all we have been doing all weekend... |
And we hired a professional landscaper to do it.
And I have since then probably ripped out half of what he has done because it has always been incorrectly planted
or the plants do not make the winter time.
And so I am kind of at this point getting a little bit broke and deciding that what we are going to do is we are j... |
Oh, you did.
Okay.
It is over with.
Yeah.
He is gone.
Yeah.
It is over with.
Uh, back to gardening.
Are you one of these, uh, Howard Garrett, organic enthusiasts or a, Neil Sperry, nuke the lawn with chemicals?
If I can just nuke it, I would do it.
But I do not.
I just,
it is like, oh, I will get out there and pull my ... |
I do not like it.
And I just went out this weekend and bought me some plants and stuff.
And I just plowed through the whole nine yards.
Got up everything.
There was some plants that are just Spring bloomers
Uh-huh.
and I,
the when the blooms died, the leaves were just horrible looking.
Uh-huh.
So I just broke all them ... |
It is a bulb.
Well you should of just ripped the whole thing out.
No,
because I do like the, I like the plant in the Spring.
I love those pink flowers.
They are just pretty.
So I just cut the leaves off and transplant and put some other plants down. Because I want them to come back up next year.
Have you had,
is this t... |
And if they do come back next year, they are going to look real puny.
Oh, they will?
Yep.
Huh.
About the only bloom, bulb that repeats well in my area is the, uh, uh, daffodil and some of the narcissus bulb.
Okay.
Now I have got some daffodils.
And, everybody down here calls these flags. Uh, the irises I guess, uh,
The... |
Well, I mean, per bulb.
You get one big flower that looks like a lily.
I do not know what they are called.
I have always called them,
well, I do not know what I have called them
But when I come down here, everybody told me they are flags.
You know what I bet you they are?
And I am a pretty, I am a pretty good gardener
... |
what color is, is yours blooming?
I have got some in the backyard that bloomed blue. Which I would not, would have liked those in the front because they match my porch and stuff better. And then some on the side of the house with the dusty purple color. With little purple spots that it, it will fade into a solid purple... |
Well, I was just going to correct myself.
They bloom in the Spring.
Because they would have bloomed pretty early.
Yeah.
Well,
They bloomed in the Spring.
Yeah.
Right about after the daffodils?
Right about the same time or after.
Okay.
I will bet you those are Dutch iris.
I would took, I took and just mowed over them la... |
Yep.
Well, I went out there this Spring,
and they had took root right where they were, on top of each other.
And they told me that they are the hardest things to, you know, to kill.
Well
But they are real easy to grow.
Ooh.
Does that help?
Well then it is not, it is not a Dutch iris then.
Oh, gosh.
I do not, I am not s... |
Uh, we moved here a year ago
Yeah,
last Spring.
We moved in here May, this house, May of last year.
So it was really too late to do much.
Um. Who, who, who, who.
Because I have got a flower, I have got, I have probably got, do, do, do, do, I do not know how many square feet it is, a big circular driveway.
The whole, uh... |
Ooh, blue is hard, you know.
Do you want a perennial flower that will bloom all Summer?
I bought,
well, I would like to have one that would bloom next year too.
That will come back up.
Okay.
Put in a perennial blue salvia.
Now it is going to grow about, um, the plant itself will grow about eighteen inches tall.
Uh-huh.... |
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