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Right. Right. Right. You are finding out who you are. But is not that difficult to do when you are working full time and have to come home and prepare a meal and, get homework done, Well, I think, and, you know, where do you find the time. Um. Well, in the first place it's not your homework, it's your children's homewo...
That's right. Yeah. That way husbands are crippled, Yeah. they are intellectual cripples, Uh-huh. and so are children. Uh-huh. They do not know how to think for themselves and be responsible, for themselves. Uh-huh. I do not know why God made women brilliant I, Didn't he though Yes, but I do not know they tend to look ...
I, as a matter of fact I was talking to a friend yesterday, who said she has a new policy in her home and when her, her family comes to her and says, fix this, you know, I am having a problem with, you know, another member of the family, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. she said I have taken a new stance, and I say, no, I will not. Uh-...
and I think every woman ought to deal with it or, ought to at least be exposed to it, and that is mediation training. Um, uh-huh. Uh, we are not talking about strikes or things we are talking about mediators who get involved in family crises, parents and children, husbands and wives, uh, you know, boss and employee. Th...
So it was pretty much a physical decision? Uh, yeah, although she is, uh, in pretty good health and she's, doesn't take any medication, it's just she had had her own apartment and drove a car and everything up until that point. Um. Then she was starting to get, uh, you know, lose memory sometimes and, which is kind of ...
She hardly ever took care of herself Yeah. and she didn't eat. She ate very poor so I think she was, you know, bad, uh, nutrition on top of it. And, uh, she got to the point she didn't want to alone anymore. So, So often I think though, elderly people don't realize that their diet is that bad. I work with a lot of eld...
Yeah. Uh-huh. Well she didn't want to cook for herself anymore. Yeah. Oh, that's too much trouble. That's too much trouble. Didn't want to cook. And the portions, people don't want to try to figure out little bitty individual meals. I do that right now, Yeah. and I'm not near nursing home age. Although they've got, uh,...
Her mother-in-law had been in for quite some time and had different degrees of a place that she was in. Uh-huh. Um, she was ambulatory and so there was a lesser care. Uh, then she got, uh, uh, hip broken and then, uh, she wasn't as ambulatory so they were almost, you know, to the point of saying she can't be here anym...
Uh-huh. I know when my friend's mother-in-law first went in, I mean, very antisocial. Maybe it takes a while for them to say, okay, well I'll be with other people but, Adapt. Yeah, I don't understand that, they, they don't want to be with anybody else. Yeah. I, as I think I mentioned, I was in the trust business and I...
I have a, um, my aunt's mother is, uh, gotten ill recently and, uh, she lives in Pennsylvania, they live in Alabama. And they're saying, hey, we need you to be closer and you have, women like that, Yeah. I don't to men, it seems like the women out just out live their husbands, but, very reluctantly, that whole, I mean...
They, they became, in fact, that's probably what's going to happen with my husband's mother. She's going to endanger herself before she'll willingly and probably will never willingly make the decision. And that scares me the, the thought of forcing somebody to do something. But it's, it's so lonely, you know they can't...
And there's no family there, they don't get to see their grandkids, they don't get to see their children, they just there in that house. Yeah. And the quality of life really isn't there. Yeah. Oh it's tough, it really is. That's from the child's standpoint. The child is going, why don't you want to be close to me and y...
and we'll say, wait a minute. And, and that's it, she, just, well I didn't want to bother you. She can't accept that we want to be the care givers. Well, when she got home, who took care of her? Yeah. Well, she stayed, she stayed in a temporary nursing home. Until she was okay. Oh. You know, it's just, but it's fright...
my, husband and I, we have been thinking about his folks are in College Station and we've pretty much planned that we'll be here in the Dallas area and there's nothing to hold them there in College Station since they're retired. Uh-huh. So we thought maybe we could get them to move a little closer here. Yeah Okay. We'r...
That's right. There's just no deterrent. That's right. And so many of those kind of people, they got, they have a better life in prison than they have on the street anyway so, you know, unless they really make it rough on them that's not a, going to prison for a little while is not much of a deterrent I don't think. Es...
uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But, uh, we have, the death penalty is not given often. Huh-uh. But there have been It's not here either really. And you know, I, maybe it should be, uh, well, it should be given, you know, I, I won't say sparingly, but I do believe it should be befitting the crime. I do too and, and you...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So somehow, you know, it doesn't really balance out too much. Yeah. That's right. Somehow it just doesn't, it works and then again it takes too long for it to work. And it seems even though, you know, that they got , the prisoner himself can come to the point that, hey, I'm tired. I just want out. Uh-hu...
I think that needs to, and I don't see why it couldn't be shortened considerably. But, you know Well, part of that is the overcrowding of the court system. that's true. It is overcrowded because there's so much drug, uh, problem with the people on drugs because that they, with the drugs they're, they're robbing and kil...
Boy, haven't that we though. We really have. But anyway I'm glad to hear that you agree with me on the capital punishment. Well, I just, I'm, I'm very muchly for it. Always have been, always will be. I just feel like their crime and punishment and if, if you don't have the punishment, you double your crime. And the, yo...
Well, um, I have gone to girl's camp a few times, as a, you know, a chaperon or a leader, whatever Okay. where do you go camping at around here? and, uh, I enjoy camping. I, we we have a tent, and we've gone, even with our family a few times out camping and have a camp stove, um, I guess our, our, my biggest memory is ...
Well, that sounds like fun. I, uh, I grew up in South Dakota, up in the Black Hills Oh. and so we used to go camping, my dad would take us, there was, there was four of us kids, we'd, he'd take us, and we'd all go camping, my dad and my mom and, and the kids, and it was always fun, uh, because what I always remember is...
but then we'd roast, roast marshmallows, and it, it was always an enjoyable experience. Uh, about nineteen eighty-two I moved from Rapid City in the Black Hills, I crossed the state to, to Aberdeen, and, uh, there's no hills, it's flat, and then I was in high school, and, uh, couple of friends, couple of my high school...
and, uh, of course, there's lots of mountains around there to camp in, and, and streams and stuff. That's, that's a great place to go camping, and the hiking is just really great. You know, hike up those mountains is just really fantastic. Um. Sure. Now is there anything, uh, are there any mountains or big rocks a pers...
it's not, well, it's not too bad. They have, um, screened in areas, you know, they're not really cabins, I wouldn't say, I guess they could call them that, but they're, they're more just a screened in, uh, camping area whatever, Okay. they're, they're not bad. Helps, helps keep the, the pests out, I suppose. Yeah, yeah...
I'm still trying to find my way around. I, if I can get on Central from anywhere, I'm happy. Yeah. Yeah, well, really the ideal times to camp in this area are early spring, and, in, in the fall. Okay. It just gets so hot in the summer you can hardly, I mean, there's, there's a lot, Okay. What type of things do you feel...
I, uh, I come home Definitely. and I am trying to get a few things done and I can't do anything but answer the telephone. Right Some evenings are worse than others, but I wish I could put a stop to it, but I don't know what to do to stop it. Right. Even, uh, we used to have a sign on our door that said no soliciting, a...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. So your privacy is invaded probably by other members of the family. Yeah, mostly. Yeah Now what can you do to stop that? Oh, I don't know. Well, I am used to it now, but sometimes it sort of gets, gets to me but there is not much I can really do. No. No. Just have to live with it, I guess. Yeah. T...
I always, Do you have brothers? Uh, no, yes, I do, but they don't live at home. Oh, okay, I was I had two younger brothers, and they nearly drove me crazy listening to telephone conversations and, Oh, I used to do that though because I was the youngest, I would pick up the phone and listen to theirs But I, I would get ...
But I stopped doing that a long time ago, and they still do it to me. Even it, in the office I, uh, find that people walk up and, and when you're on a conversation instead of walking off or just making themselves busy, they'll stand there and listen to what you say until you hang up. Oh, like, yeah, this lady does that...
Uh-huh. so. But, And I guess that's really the thing that really bugs me the most. I can't think, our kids in our neighborhood used to bother me, but they've all gotten grown up now Uh, and we live in a neighborhood where there is not any little kids to bother me, since mine are all grown up, Oh but. What else would be...
Yeah, uh-huh. But, Yeah, I've traveled quiet a bit, and I've been through Dallas, Texas. It's pretty busy It really is, and pretty noisy. Yeah It really is. Yeah. I live right on a main thoroughfare, so when I first moved here I probably did consider that an invasion of privacy because it, at first you'd hear a lot of ...
I suppose you do. And, uh, I just close it out, I guess, because I don't, I don't remember waking up in several years at night when I'd hear a fire truck go by, you know. Uh-huh. Yeah. I think they would probably have to pull into my drive before it bothered me Yeah. I am a real solid sleeper though so that probably wo...
and, you know, I thought he, That was yours. Yeah. Right. I thought he would respect me more than that, to look through my things and not trust me, Yeah. so that was upsetting. I was mad about that and my privacy there. Yeah. Uh, well, I guess social change takes in a, a big category, but, uh, I guess the, the one aspe...
and they, and they compared to the son's, that he was making now. And even though the son was probably more successful, you know, higher up in the, the management ladder uh, his, he was actually making less money when you when you go by costs of living. Right. Um. Right, uh-huh. And it's depending on where you live, th...
I know I used to pay twenty-five cents a gallon and now it's over a buck. Yeah. I don't know what it's, uh, by you. Around here Minnesota, Wisconsin area it's, uh, it's dropping, but I think it's about a dollar fifteen on an average. Yeah, I'm from Wisconsin, yeah, . Okay. Well that's, uh, that's most of the people I t...
so they'll stop me Um. but, uh, I'm, uh, I'm pretty much out to the things to say. Oh, like, like social changes. Yeah. Um, um, and I don't think this would have anything to do with it, but like clothing and styles, lot of those changed. Okay, yeah, I, I, I don't think they, they consider, like I say, it's a broad cate...
Uh-huh, yeah. but now I kind of like, you know, a lot of the bright colors. Yeah. I mean, like I used to be more, uh, conservative and just your basic colors, but now I, I do like some of these, uh, brighter, fluorescent colors. Yeah, but they, styles come and go all the time, though. It's just ridiculous, fads in and ...
So if you hang onto your clothes long enough, uh they'll, they'll be back in style in a few years Yeah That's true, maybe some day I probably won't be alive to see it, but prices might go down lot more. Yeah. I don't know though, doesn't look good. Well, I think, thinking back, I think the only style I hope doesn't com...
Huh So you went to what college? Uh, Northern State University in Aberdeen, South Dakota. And what did you graduate in? I in what major or what year? Yeah, major International business. Oh, really. Yeah. And you? I'm going to B Y U, and I'm going into nursing Okay. so. Well, that sounds interesting. How long of a progr...
It's about five years, but it's probably going to take me longer, because I didn't decide to major in that until, uh, about a year and a half after I was already in school, so. You know, I read a study once, and it said that, uh, like thirty-four percent of, uh, college students actually graduate in four years from a f...
if you're going to go to a college where student faculty ratio is three and four hundred to one, I don't think you're going to have as meaningful of a college experience as if you're down to the thirty to forty to one. Uh-huh. Is that, what was yours more like? Yeah Was there a, it was about twenty-six to one. Really. ...
and. Wow, in high school? Yeah Oh. it was a biology lecture class Wow. and, you know, it, it just wasn't the same. You're sitting there, and you're taking notes and, you know, you got a computerized test scores, multiple choice, because there's no way they could correct a three hundred fifty point short answer test uh,...
so, it's hard to get individual help It's kind of, you're on your own Do you get, uh, a lot of tutoring, or. No Very little, I mean, well, like my, for example, I have, I'm in a chemistry class right now Uh-huh. and there's tons of students in it, and there's one T A for the whole class. And he only has certain office ...
Oh, man. I think your advice is good. Um let's see. My advice would be to pick a major before you get into college That's excellent advice. because I, I didn't, and I took tons of classes that I didn't need to, and, um, I don't know, I just feel like I'm, it's, it's going to take me a lot longer than, and not that's al...
so you don't want management, but you think you want business, Yes. I haven't, uh, talked to anybody outside the Metroplex, so I didn't even think of saying Arlington, Texas. This is a real first Yes. Are you at work? Yes, I am. I, I, I've been trying to get people at five thirty and six thirty in the evening and I tho...
is that, is that reported in the Texas papers? Oh, sure, we, uh, we hear a little of the news Uh, yeah, I have heard about that the last couple of days. How, how big is the Ukraine, the area, do you know? Uh, as an area, it's not, Or a population or anything, I'm really uninformed. I, I'm afraid I don't have the statis...
I know a lot of their, oh, their countries that they had overtaken, or wanted to be independent or several of them, right, Yeah. And, uh, what about Astonia, are they, They're completely out now. Right, I thought they were. Yes, the three, the three Baltic, uh, republics got out as quickly as they could. But, but, the,...
Didn't I read that? Yes. So, now, uh, not that they may, that may matter, I don't know, anymore. I, uh, fear for the Russians from what I read, you know, I wonder how they're going to get through the winter. Food wise or any wise, Uh, sounds to me like they'll start rioting soon, or not that that would do any good, but...
Well, we do. We have lots and lots of, uh, layoffs here. Lot of companies folding, lot of layoffs and it's pretty scary. Do, do you, do you blame the, the government in Washington for this? Well, I don't understand economics that well. I don't know, I, I know that we have a terrible situation with foreign trade and tha...
Uh-huh. Of course, if somebody in, in China can make something for ten cents and we have to make it for ten dollars because we have unions, well, I don't know what's going to happen then. Oh, the Chinese use slave labor, too. Right. That's, that's one of the ways they get away with it. And child labor. Yeah. Right. Wel...
Uh, Texas, Texas used to be a democratic state, didn't it? Oh, I know, it used to, right. Well, you don't want too many democrats anymore and for a while I kind of deserted the party, but now it's looking better to me. I like your governor. Oh, do you? Oh, I'm glad to hear that. She's an impressive woman. Well, I think...
anybody could beat Claytie in Texas. He shot himself in the foot so many times How did you get on this T I thing? Oh, I, I know some of the people. Okay, go ahead. Well, I, I, uh, we're going to compare notes. Uh, Yeah. I, uh, I often desire to exercise, often believe I should and rarely do. Don't do it Well, I tell y...
I, I travel quite a bit in my in my business, Yes. and you can do it, you know, wherever you're at and if you do it, I, I do it every morning after, uh, usually after breakfast before I take a shower and get, you know, dressed going you know, to go to work. Yes. Uh-huh. And, uh, now what I do, I mean, I've done this fo...
And I do, uh, about sixty, uh, bicycle, type, uh, leg thrust type things. Uh-huh. And I do, uh, twenty, uh, leg lifters on each side. You know when you're laying on the floor. Yes. Yes. Right. And then I do fifty push-ups and do a hundred sit ups and, uh, then I do about, uh, My goodness, you do all of this in fifteen ...
but I give up, I just find them boring. Hard to find the time for it on a given day Well, uh, and, Years ago I used to, uh, referee football Yes. and, uh, to stay in condition, I did that, uh, just as a normal basis, Yes. and, uh, uh, I tell you just by doing it, uh, well, example, this summer I, I was about fifteen p...
within reason, you know, you can lose weight or maintain your weight and your physical being Uh-huh. Yep. and, uh, I just, you know, you're ready to go at a, I, I, I think it's really important. Well, I, I, whenever I do it, I feel good. I mean good that I have done, good because it's, it seems right and good because i...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and once you start getting into that, one, you just feel good Yes. and you look a whole lot better. Yes. Do you, do you does your wife participate in any of this or, Unfortunately not, and there's no way I can get her to. Uh-huh. It's a, like it's something you either just really want to do it or you ca...
Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Well I, I, uh, I keep saying if somebody else would do it with me, I, that would be, little bit of peer pressure would help considerably. Well, But you seemed to have solved that problem without any, any external help. No problem at all. And, uh, if you get one of these mats. You know, go to a store...
it's a foam thing, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it's, it's just about six feet long, rolls up Yeah. and I don't take it on trips with me. I, you could, but, uh, I don't mind, uh, you know, if I do like sit ups, I'll throw a, a towel down or something. You know, Yeah. so you don't have the abrasive, Okay, what do you think abo...
So in one city of, in America, there's as many, uh, hospitals that are equipped to do uh, heart operations as in the entire area of Canada, and that's kind of spooky. Well, I, uh, I understand what you're saying, and there's probably some truth to that. I think that, uh, generally I don't welcome added government respo...
and, uh, uh, it was ligaments, uh, in her knee, as it turned out, uh, Uh-huh. she came back that, uh, we were out at Cape Hatteras when this happened and, uh, she got home, and the leading orthopedic man, who has handled football people for years and is as good as they come, I mean, he knows knee problems okay, Uh-huh...
Now, for years they didn't have this and they solved these problems, and, you know, Yeah . I said to her, well, look, you know, if you feel you got to go, go, but I, I think a thousand dollars, these guys, I don't know what it is, but there's, no doubt they get kickbacks to fill these machines up night and day. Uh-huh...
I'll have to agree, with you there, You know . but there's another problem, and that's the, how litigious our society is. If the doctor makes a mistake, he can be sure that he's going to be hauled into court. Well, I think that should be, that, that's a, another problem, but that's part of our legalese problem. And th...
I mean, you know, five million bucks isn't going to bring this kid back, you know, I mean, as sorrowful as it is. Uh, you know, if the doctor is wrong, you know, he should be pulled from his license, but five million dollars and away he goes because insurance pays for it, you know, it, it doesn't make logical sense to ...
I think that because, besides the fact that it's a deadly disease, that it's a contagious disease, so that it's, um, although it is not killing that many people now, it still has the opportunity to get out of control and become a huge problem. Yeah, they say a million people are infected with the H I V virus, Uh-huh. a...
Uh-huh. Uh, do you feel like this is, I, I guess they're spending a billion or so a year on this AIDS research. Uh-huh. Do you think they should spend more? Uh, I, I think they should, actually, although perhaps not a, an incredible amount more than what they're doing, and I don't necessarily think that they should, uh...
it's something that I hadn't, hadn't done before. Uh-huh. Uh. Well, that's good. I'm glad that Mister Johnson's changed his tune on, uh, safe sex to abstinence, or I was glad he did that, for young kids, because a lot of kids would have ended up dying because of what he was promoting. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, let's see. Wha...
yeah it is. He's actually, um, he had AIDS related complex for a while, and he is now in full-blown AIDS, really not doing very well, and has a brain tumor or that sort of thing. Yeah, it sounds awful. Yeah, it's, it's a very nasty thing. Is it just that the immune system ceases to function properly and, Um, yeah, that...
yeah, that sort of thing, Okay well, There we are. All right. Um, um, well, uh, tell me about the car that you've got. Well, I have a Honda, um, hatchback, nineteen eighty-four. Uh-huh. And I had a hatchback, a nineteen seventy-eight version before this one. Uh-huh. And, uh, I'll be honest with you. I have never found ...
And, I can carry more in that, uh, that trunk area in my little Honda than I can in the big cars, and I have a large, um, Pontiac, and I have a sixty-nine Cougar, which really is, I'm saving because it's, it's old, but it's in beautiful shape. Uh-huh. But I can carry as much in my Honda or more than I can in, in those ...
but it's, um, it's, uh, Uh-huh, yours is a four door. Four door, yeah Uh-huh. and very, very comfortable car. Big roomy trunk Yeah. uh, and, uh, and very happy with it, and I must admit it's, you know, if, if, if, uh, my only consideration were, were, you know, buying another car just to tool around town in and make, y...
and, uh, I drive, down Interstate Ninety-five, and it's just an absolutely wild highway. Ninety-five is wild in any car. There's no doubt about that Yeah and, because I, I, I run over to Crystal City, or used to, I'm retiring the end of this month Uh-huh. but I'm very much aware of the crazy driving that goes on over t...
and I always wind up getting under the hood and finding out all the things that, you know, need to be taken care of, and so forth. And I guess that's one thing that, that recommends the Honda to a lot of people, is is there's just very little that you have to do under the hood, and, uh, Yes, it just, just sits there an...
and, um, Well, a brand new Volvo costs, what, thirty thousand dollars? Well, certainly some of the top end ones. You can still get, get, uh, even the, the low end wagons, um, for less than twenty thousand dollars Uh-huh. and, uh, we get, you know, in the Washington area, of course, being as affluent as it is, there are...
Yeah. and I've made many trips to Washington and down to Virginia Beach, Virginia, where my mother lives, and things like that, and I drive it, about the weather Oh, yes, very appropriate, I guess. Uh, you ready for this? Yeah. Okay, John, just a moment. Well, guess what, we get to talk about the weather The weather is...
Oh, you do Yeah. so you, you, you probably go everywhere and have all sorts of weather. Yeah. I imagine it's kind of an experience also trying to land and take off in the weather. Well, it was around here last night, I'll tell you that Well, actually I'm, I'm, I've heard on the news that we, uh, will be setting a recor...
and, uh, approaches to low minimum both, both times Wow. and Phoenix never gets that kind of weather so, And so are you an airline pilot? Yes, I am Oh, great. for Southwest, yeah. For Southwest, fantastic. I have a brother, I have a brother that's a pilot, also, with American. Oh, is that right? Yeah. So I imagine you,...
yeah. Yeah, the, the air systems are reasonably calm. We don't have, uh, the turbulence have a, uh, little bit of chop, Uh-huh. but it's not like it is in the spring time. Oh, yes. Well, we moved actually down here from another location, and it's spectacular the, the thunderstorms and rain storms you get in the spring ...
yeah. Yeah It's, it's fabulous. cloud to cloud it can be real, really sensational here. Yeah, that's true. Where are you from originally? I'm from, uh, northern Utah, and that's a very arid climate, from, uh, Salt Lake City area Uh-huh. and there's always a lot of snow. In fact, where I grew up we were about an hour's ...
in, uh in Snowbird and Solitude and and Brighton and yes, all those areas. Beautiful area. Uh-huh. So I imagine, have you skied before? Well, we've skied, I have not skied that area. Uh-huh. I've driven through it several times. Uh, I skied, we skied California a bunch when we lived out there, and and, uh, um, and, of ...
we've gotten a fair amount of rain for this time of year already I think Yes. Yeah. and, uh, I've been surprised that we haven't seen more of the temperatures that we've got today, you know, that moved in last night. Yeah, it's been, it's been cold. There was a time, though, in the, uh, middle part of November that got...
Yeah, but that was very unseasonable for us down here. And, uh, but, uh, I've really enjoyed the weather down here, too, because, uh, two years ago we were the day after Christmas able to go out in shorts and play tennis in the nice sunny weather, and it's not as severe, I should say as the weather that I've experience...
and they say, boy, six months out of the year it's bitter cold, and and the wind and the blowing snow and everything. Oh, it is, it is. Well, and they've had, uh, you know, usually in Minnesota they get their snow in January and February, Uh-huh. and they're up over sixty-five or Okay, I guess tonight's subject is, uh,...
and over the years I've, I've refined those plans. I got myself a router and I'm, I'm very good at making book shelves. Uh-huh. It's, it's also a way of relieving stress. My wife kind of laughs, at me that anytime I get stressed out I just go out in the garage and we've got more book shelves. Well, I'll have to come an...
and, and, the router, uh, helps a lot because you can make better joints with a router. Uh-huh. The latest project that I've been working on and this has been kind of sitting here for a few months is a, a cabinet to, to put a T V in. Oh, a entertainment type center? Right. Oh. And it, that's works well because you can ...
And also with a router, you can, uh, make ornamental facings, too better than a just straight wood edge. And, Uh, And, uh, casings and so forth that are, that are real nice, That's right. That's right. So, so that's, that's good. That's good. But what I need next is a good table saw. Yeah And I, I debate whether it's b...
Uh, but, uh, yeah, a table saw does take a lot of time, excuse me a lot of space and is a pretty big investment. Yeah. And, Uh, that, that's partly my problem now. I don't have room for this. I, uh, I, where, uh, where we lived before up north, uh basements were, were common Uh-huh. and, I used to put all the stuff in ...
lot of the equipment, too, that I've, I've used in the past, uh, I you know, I've used in school and, uh, I would, I don't know, I'd, I'd kind of like to, to look at equipment like a lathe or like you say, a table saw and some of those things that would make, uh, some pretty nice, uh, pieces of, uh, well, wood, for, fo...
uh-huh. What are, are you settled in a place? Yeah, I'm settled in a place. I've been in it for twelve years, since nineteen, uh, actually thirteen years, since nineteen seventy-eight and it's in Richardson, Texas, which is north Texas or north Dallas. Right Uh-huh. And we've lived in two houses in Richardson. We moved...
it is. The kids are in school here in Duncanville. We're in a temporary place right now and, uh, so they've enjoyed the school, so we're kind of trying to stay here but, Are you finding it tough trying to find what you want or, Well, what, the problem we got is that we've got five children Oh, boy. and so, uh, we reall...
No, we're settled and, uh we're, uh, having, I'm probably older than you, I'm fifty-two, but anyway, I, my youngest is getting married this year graduating college, Oh, great. so I can board up their rooms, and look forward to retirement maybe. That empty nest syndrome is going to set in, I guess. Oh, gosh, so, we're l...
so, but everyone seems, uh, has seem to relocated down that area. Oh, yeah. Seems like a nice place to go Yeah, yeah. We've got five and the oldest is, uh, ninth grade and the youngest is second grade and I think they're going to be, uh, with us forever. I don't know if that's true, but it's sure, you know, we're not a...
Oh, I don't think it's possible unless you, you know, multimillionaire, something like that. Oh, I know. Uh, Seems like you get in that category, you're in the three hundred thousand dollar homes or whatever and it's that's an awful lot, you know Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is, yeah. Uh, we're having, actually, if we find somet...
Wow. And they converted the dining room and, did this and that, but they always seemed to get along fine, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think once we get into a place, it will be just fine, but you know, it's until then, it's, uh, oh, a little stressful, you know, just looking all the time and that sort of thing. Oh, sur...
So. What kind of business are you in? I'm in the, uh, sporting goods business. I'm a manufacturer's rep. I represent fourteen different hunting and shooting type companies. Oh, yeah, great. What, who are you with? Uh, we're with an organization called, uh, Wycliff Bible Translators. Uh-huh. It's a, a missions organiza...
When we moved from Louisiana to Denver, it was astounding, you know, to find that prices were, oh, I guess almost two or three times as high as we'd expected. And then, uh, to come down here, we thought things would be lower, and they're not. I guess, uh, really, prices for housing are just, Okay, should begin. *listen...
I work for the University of New Hampshire, and uh, our benefits package isn't, uh, isn't quite as good in some ways. Uh, you know, Oh. overall I'm satisfied with it. We don't have the vision care, we do have the health care and the, uh, and the or the dental. Uh-huh. Uh. Are you a professor there? No, I work in, I'm a...
Well, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the things I guess I would change about Honeywell, is, uh, I used to work with the Army Research Institute, and being a, uh, a government organization you got quite a few holidays off. Right. But here you don't get that. You maybe get two or three a year. Uh-huh. So it's rea...
I'm, I'm a little disturbed about that, but I think that's a national trend, and I don't know that, uh, I don't know what the solution is to it. It's bigger than just the benefits part. Yeah, I don't know if you saw on TWENTY TWENTY the other night, they, uh, they basically reviewed Oregon's plan or The Oregon Plan tow...
but, um, it was kind of an interesting show. Um. I think you're right, I think health care is probably the, the most pressing uh, the pressing one, Right. but I'll tell you, I, I don't mind having dental, you know, sometimes dental costs can be, um, just about as expensive, if not more, and I know historically a lot of...

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