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but the, some people object to that which I don't mind, no problem at all, you know. Oh, I know that there's several people I've talked to that really have a problem with it and, I'm former military Huh. so you get kind of used to, to going through stuff like that. Yeah, right. You know, you don't pay any attention t...
I wasn't aware that Austin was one of them, but I think Johnson City was one. Oh, did they object too? Yeah, there's, there's several of the cities that have been having real trouble with the issue. And the, but also on things that I'd heard too from a stockholders meeting was that there were people, uh, there were, th...
Right. But I think that was an actually a good thing that happened, uh, I never considered it, I guess, it's an invasion of your privacy but it's something that is for the good of so many people, you know, to, have everyone, uh, take the test right away Uh-huh. and, uh, and hopefully, maybe some people will convince o...
I'm sorry, what? A Ford Explorer. Oh, really. Yeah, one of the new ones. Yeah. And, um, I'd, I'd probably buy another, this is the first American vehicle I've owned. Uh-huh. So I would probably purchase another one, um, I would be more selective in the dealership that I purchased it from but as far as, uh, the quality ...
What's wrong with the Volvo. Oh, I don't know, they're, they're not as nice looking. Oh. Uh, to me, I don't know, I'm sure there are some that are, but everyone I've seen is kind of plain, but. What, what city are you calling from? Sherman. Oh. Where are you? Up in Dallas. Dallas. Um. Yeah. B M W or Mercedes, yeah, wel...
my actual favorite cars were, uh, like the Ford Thunderbirds of nineteen eighty-five. Uh-huh. I really like that body style, but I don't own one of those either What do you presently drive? Uh, Mercury Topaz. Um, fun. Cheap taste, cheap taste in cars, okay Well there nothing wrong with those, uh. They're, they're nice ...
no, no, no, no it, it, I, I kind of wish we would have maybe gone for the G L rather than the D L Oh, is it? See I don't much about them I guess. Yeah, there just safe to just, that's the reason why we mainly got it. We got white and it's the safest four door, you know, it's good for, if you have a family, which we do....
I used to have a two, eighty Z, and I'm a tall guy an, and, uh, they're hard to get around in traffic to see. Really. Because you can't see a car ahead of you, but they're fast as lightning and all that crap. But the Explorer, I mean, you're sitting up on top of everything and you can really see real well. And I just, ...
or, my my husband has a, uh, Cougar and he's never had any problem with it either, so, I don't know. That's the way it goes, I guess. Well what are your, I guess this is your first time to buy American, so. Yeah, I was real hesitant but it was Yeah. I don't know, uh, I mean, I think European cars are great, course you'...
I think Chrysler would probably make a good vehicle, uh, but all of it has to do, in my opinion with the service. and the attitude of the service, of the dealership. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't send my dog to buy a car from Middlekauff Ford. Where? There's, Middlekauff Ford in Plano. Okay. Their just, their attitude is just...
they, they had a problem with they, uh, took their Camaro in to get it traded and they, they hadn't signed any papers and they had all ready, uh, taken it in to paint it and everything and everything was stolen out of it and the people, um, wouldn't reimburse them for anything. Middlekauff wouldn't? She needs to find h...
Yeah, yeah. Good Lord, I think I started in January or February. Really. Oh God, I've, I'm like twenty some phone calls. Oh, wow. That's why I, I wasn't sure if this was the second time around or what. Well look, I've enjoyed speaking with you. Yeah, you too. And keep smiling. Okay, thanks. Bye, bye. Bye. So, child car...
I, if I was looking for outside care I probably would stay away from professional child care centers and try to find, if I was close to home, relatives or people with it is same values and possibly religious faith or something similar so that she would be raised in an environment that would be similar to what we would ...
Yeah, yeah that's, that's very well phrased. Uh, so, have you ever used outside child care? No, I haven't. We've had like people come in and baby-sit for an hour or two but I've never had, um, Real day care. Right. She's, she's not even a year yet, so, we haven't been in, you know, a lot of need yet. Uh our step daugh...
Have a relative a structured, activities and not just, you know, stick them in a corner and say you're on your own. seem to be, Uh, yeah, and, uh, despite our beliefs, she was, uh, one of the more, uh, Charismatic Christian faiths Uh-huh. and it worked out wonderfully. Yeah. I know that, uh, that I guess if you have t...
a lot of times you might just need to go now and feel, file for it just like a business. You may not have to prove any type of qualification for it I don't, Uh, now here I believe that child care meets, by in large, certain standards for, uh, balanced food, if they provide food, cleanliness, and levels of supervision l...
a little bit of love and, and attention is what most of them need. You know, even if it's not a real educated program you can have good educational program and, and, And not have any care. Right. And, and that's not certainly what you want for your child or what you would give your child yourself and so, And I'm not su...
Right, those basic things that, uh, they would, that, you know, you would be a little bit of, uh, I don't know if manners is a good term or not but, you know, dealing with other through proper mannerisms and politeness and so forth, you know, that sort of thing, you'd want your child to learn that, from the experience...
Their employees earn almost nothing. Yeah. I know I, I did that for summer so I can, I can vouch for that And that's really, really a shame too because, do you and your husband both work. No, just he does I'm, I'm here during the day with her. Well, that's wonderful if, if you can make it that way. Well, we, we decided...
Well, I'm talking to you from Dallas. What part of the country are you in? Oh, boy, this is going to be tough, I'm in Plano Well, we can, uh, complain together or swear we can complain together about the humidity Exactly. I guess the weather hasn't been too different between us. No, I don't think so, I wouldn't think, ...
it's been very, very rainy, I know. Oh How about that. How does it compare to the years past? um, I don't know, I haven't lived here, let's see, we lived out of state in Wisconsin and we just we lived here ten years ago, and when we first lived here, we we were in Garland, East Richardson, and, um, doesn't seem like it...
That's great. It just seems a little more humid than it, I don't ever remember, of course, you know, you only remember the good stuff, but, um, I just don't remember the humidity. Right. Well definitely, I'm sure, the winters are more mild here. This much rain, and this much humidity. Uh, yeah, they are. Actually, tho...
Um, uh, in, in Wisconsin and Minnesota, when they get winters it's, um, the winters are bad, but not what you hear about. It's just like down here, when you hear, when people here think it's a hundred and six, people up north think it's a hundred and sixty down here. A hundred and sixty. I'm making that up. Uh-huh, rig...
you could talk about that, that's, that's a strange state for, Oh sure, I, I'm uh, I'm very familiar, my grandparents and all my relatives are from Wisconsin. Oh, there you go, okay. So, I'm, uh, quite familiar with how it is up there, and if you, kind of interesting, uh, the people down here typically don't think it...
Uh-huh. and it's snowy and uh, it just was a very mixed bag in terms of Colorado. Oh sure. My parents just live, uh, thirty miles south of Denver and it can be sunny and, and no problem in Denver and they'll be having snow Isn't that strange? So it's pretty amazing, it can be that drastic in just a short distance Yeah,...
and I can tell you that, um, they've even had, in eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania, they've even had, I'm going to say, mini tornadoes for lack of a better word. Uh-huh. And, and that's just a part of the country that it's rolling hillside. That was unheard of, you know, twenty years ago. Right. Um, so I don't kno...
Okay. Good-bye. Bye-bye. Okay, what kind of things do you like to do in your spare time? Well, uh, I have two children, Uh-huh. so I do not have a whole lot of spare time right now. One of the things that I have made time for is, uh, playing softball. Uh-huh. I really enjoy, I enjoy softball, but I enjoy all kind of sp...
Oh, I, uh, like sports type things too. We like to get out and walk, and we like the water sports too. Uh-huh. But like you, unless you have a pool in your backyard, it is kind of hard to get to do that very often. I, know it. It is. Do you work full time? Yeah. Well, part time. We are going to have a baby in July. Par...
Is this going to be your first? Yes. Uh-huh. Oh. I have been doing some cross-stitch for something I wanted to put in the nursery. So, I have not done that in years, Uh-huh. but I have kind of enjoyed that. Yeah. It is just hard to find the time to sit there and do it. Right. Well, that is, it sure is fun to do that ki...
I just go out just to, just to enjoy it and not really spend money sometimes, just look. Yeah. Yeah. But you will probably find after your children get bigger, uh, like when they want things like tricycles, toys, things that cost quite a lot in the store, you can find that kind of stuff at garage sales for just a few d...
Yeah. So, Yeah, at a lot of places. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It, it does take more time. But I do not work, so, uh, that is something I have decided I am going to make sure my kids have a, have a happy growing up years and Right, yeah. I think that is important too. I am not going to work after the baby comes. Yeah. Well, We...
But, eventually the, you will, you will be doing lots of stuff. Right. So, Yeah. But I think, my husband is real into sports too. He plays on a T I softball team and the church softball team. And by the time he plays two games a week and I play a game a week, we go to lots of softball Wow! Yeah But the kids enjoy going...
but the kids are always wanting to play in the water. And, uh, like you said, unless you have a pool in your backyard or access to a good place to play, it is kind of hard. And, uh, they have real good kiddie areas, uh, at both of the Wet and Wild's around here. So, we are planning on going two or three times a week Oh...
Uh-huh But my husband and I both, I think, consider it a chore. It's, Yeah. our yard has had so many problems. It has completely died out two times. Oh, no. And, uh, we have had to start all over trying to plant grass. So it has become a chore Huh. Do you and your husband like to work in the yard? Oh, well, we like it ...
That is true. Seems like sometimes hobbies do that. They kind of take over and turn into work instead of fun. Yeah. Well, that is how sewing. I love to sew, and, uh, I wish I had more time to do it. But sometimes I will get started on a project and then finishing it is more of a chore than Yeah. If it does not go quite...
Oh, that is nice. Yeah. And it, it is fun for me to do that. It is, it is something I enjoy doing. It is funny though, it is like I do not really want to cook for us It is kind of like when you are a kid and, and someone else's house was fun to clean, but you did not want to do your own Yeah. Your, How funny. I think I...
Well, do you guys go camping or anything like that? Uh, yeah, we have done a little bit of camping. We like that. It's, there again, it is just so hard to find time to get away for a whole weekend. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, that is something that we are planning to do not this weekend, but the next. My parents go camping a l...
Well, that sounds nice. I, I think that would be a good family thing to start doing more often. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. My, uh, my husband loves to fish. I am not much into fishing, but, uh, my daughter thinks she wants to learn how to fish so I think it will be real good for them Uh-huh. They can go fishing. Yeah, we ...
yeah. Oh, I know. Yeah, uh, she is really looking forward. I am hoping, that is another thing though, when sometimes your, uh, hobbies can interfere with each other. Because my husband is afraid he is going to have a softball tournament that weekend. Oh. And I am saying, no, no Yeah. Skip this tournament Yeah. If you a...
I think cross-stitching is so pretty, but I have never done any. It is not too hard. It is, Yeah. I do not think it is as hard as like knitting or crochet or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I, I crocheted when I was younger. It is funny, when I was in high school, I made a blanket. And, but you know, I can't even reme...
Oh, yeah. And then I tore it out and threw it down. And I never have, picked it back up again, and now I can't remember anything about it Yeah, well, I did the same thing. Uh, when I was pregnant with my first daughter, I was really bored, and I bought one of those latch hook rug kits. Oh, uh-huh. It was a real pretty ...
And every once in a while I will be digging through the closet, and I will find that thing. And I will think, oh, maybe I ought to get the rest of that out, you know, and finish it. Yeah. But, uh, for a while there latch hook rugs were a real big, uh, hobby. Yeah. I remember that. It seemed like people did them a lot. ...
And thanks for calling. Uh-huh. *used to mean "you're welcome" Bye. Bye-bye. in Well I always think I'm paying too much taxes. How about you? Yeah, oh definitely Seems like, Although at least Texas doesn't have a state income tax yet. I mean, you know, they keep threatening us that maybe there will be a day that they'r...
Yeah, makes quite a bit of difference in your, uh, well your income level. Right. You know, because other states quite a a chunk out for, uh, city and state taxes so you're, uh, looking at your yearly salary, it makes quite a difference. It sure does make a difference. A little more take home here Uh-huh. Do you live i...
Or up to Collin County, somewhere that you're getting out of the, um, Dallas County area because, what do we pay, like eight and a half percent, something like that for the, uh, sales tax. Uh-huh. Eight point five. Uh-huh. Which, yeah, that really is pretty high. Is it the is it, uh, less in Collin County than it is in...
And then with the with the twenty-two dollars and the seven something, it all came out to, I, I ended up paying like thirty-four dollars. Yeah, yeah that's true. Although I I wish, you know, overall they'd try the lottery again. When did you first come to Texas? Really, where did you come from? Um, well, Ohio, kind of....
But, uh, there were stores that you could go to, uh, you know, like discount stores and stores down in the village and just all over the place where you could go to and you could shop until like twelve or one o'clock that night and that was like, that was really the only night they were open that late, but it was Chris...
Right. When I first came, no. Anyway, Well the, the, uh, there was other things too, I mean, I think it's taken us Yankee's influence down here, to get them to, uh, come to the, you know, the correct decade here and century. Um, I couldn't believe that you could have open containers of beer, alcohol, whatever, in the c...
Well, Well they're like two, or, I, I believe they're hitting two dollars a pack now. Um. A little bit, a little bit more in some places. So you end up about paying about twelve dollars for a pack and two dollars of that is taxes. Huh. Gee. Um, because I remember we went to, to Oklahoma to this bingo place. This Chocta...
There were just bus loads of people that come from everywhere else to play that bingo because it's, it's, the stakes are higher and payoffs are bigger and so forth. Well how did you do? I won a dollar A dollar, oh well, but you had fun playing, right. Yeah, I had fun, uh, a couple on the bus won some money. One, one gu...
Yes, well, they were, they really wanted something teeny tiny, and I, uh, really wanted that retriever's disposition. Uh, the ultimate to tolerant, trainable disposition, Yeah. Really. so I called four or five dog trainers because I don't like the little dogs. Uh-huh. And, and I asked them, you know, these are the ages...
They're not dignified like a retriever can be. Uh-huh. Yeah. So how old is your retriever? Oh, she's about four. She's not completely pure. We got her from the, uh, Humane Society when she was a puppy. She looks like a she looks just like a Golden Retriever, but she's a little bit smaller. She's like fifty-five pounds....
but they usually run about sixty to sixty-five. And the ones that are shown, they are inside that weight allowance. Uh-huh. You cannot show your retriever if it's, you know, a hundred plus pounds. Oh, huh. So don't say she's small, just say she's perfect. Yeah. She's perfect. Well, she's got a brown nose instead of bla...
Right. Oh. and fortunately it was just like a retriever and then I've had a retriever. I bet it had a pretty coat too. It was gorgeous. It was just gorgeous. I mean just gorgeous. Um, and they both, you know, both the half breed and the pure breed had the, uh, what I consider the, the, the perfect disposition. But you ...
Oh. And I've seen an awful lot of lately really dumb, dumb retrievers and I'm, and I really fear for the breed because I love that breed, Yeah. but I really figure right when it becomes really popular that it's going to be ruined. We have some friends with a brother and sister Golden retriever and those dogs have been ...
Now, you know, that seems like a cruel thing to do. Yeah. On the other hand, you sure, you know, they sure created a, a wonderful breed, I mean a wonderful breed. Yeah. They did. I, I had never really had a Golden retriever before. We were going to get a shepherd and something mixed because my husband's family had had ...
but the third one is a children's dog. Oh. And there are distinct breeds in Europe. Now what happened over here was is that people saw the, the first, um, which would actually have been a Skutzhund which is what Rin Tin Tin was. Uh-huh. And everybody wanted Rin Tin Tin. And it was known as a German shepherd here. So th...
Uh-huh. and it's the Alsatian that's the kid's dog. It's just, you see them in Europe and they're just lovely. Huh. But you'll see, I mean, if you ever start looking in papers now and you start seeing these ads for German Shepherds, they will say on them, bred for disposition, A K C conforming which means that their ad...
That doesn't necessarily mean you're controversial. Well, it seems to be in the current situations but, uh, I still feel that it could be a deterrent to crime. Particularly with the increase of serious crime that's going on now. Well, I think that those crimes which are punishable by the death sentence, need to be reev...
Yeah. I believe that, uh, Well, it's just an, an example. Uh, I think there's, uh, someone that's on trial right now here in the Dallas area, Uh-huh. and they were interviewing the, the, a young lady was killed sometime back, a young girl. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, how do you feel about this? Uh-huh. And, you know Uh-huh. ...
but for every innocent person who would be executed, hopefully there would be ten guilty. Yeah. Well, I feel like the, the cost of someone who's quoting figures made the cost, at like thirty thousand dollars, a year to keep someone in prison. Uh, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. To maintain a prison that's right. That's stupid....
this would be nice if and there's probably thousands of holes in that theory, blinded her. Yeah. I think then that a life sentence to restitution is appropriate. Yes. I think he should spend the rest of his life working to support that individual or the family of an individual. Uh, who has been harmed you, you, you kno...
I don't, I don't agree with the length, of the sentence though. Well, Well, but here again, uh, if a matter of expediency, part of these costs like the people on Death Row is that their appeals can take years and years. I think expediency is the answer. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's right. There should be some, uh, I know the...
A, a legit, legitimate appeal, not a technicality, of, uh, if, and they're not arguing that the guy or woman committed the crime. Yeah. That's right. Uh-huh. They're arguing over, well, were his civil rights violated because, uh someone didn't file the proper paper at the proper time. Uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Those are ...
Right, and I realize that that is designed to protect the innocent. It's also designed to line the pockets of lawyers. Oh, yes And, uh, I, I just don't think that, I think we could get along a lot better in our criminal justice system if we had some statute of limitations on lawyers Yes. I hope you're not a lawyer No, ...
and that doesn't mean that you leave it in tact. *in tact intact Well, it's, it's a case that we have a, a legal system which the criminals have found a way to use and a way to benefit them rather than the public itself. That's right. So that's how we get caught in this, uh sort of a catch twenty-two. That's right. Uh-...
Well, I could pick country music. *answered as if to a qw Country music? I, As I've gotten older, I've started listening more to the words of music and to the softer melodies. Not originally. Not originally. Where you from? Georgia. Georgia. Okay, well, see I'm, I'm from Chicago, so uh, I'm kind of in a different categ...
Uh, but I think I'd stick back with my Beethoven and my Bach and my Mozart I mean because it's just, it will always be there. It's classic and I don't have to worry about, you know, what's current and what's not because I haven't been current with music for a long time. But, you know, same, uh, and, as far as country m...
Well, there's some joy in it also. But, mostly it, it just tells a story about life. Yeah. Well, I must say, though, uh, I listen to Amy Grant. Do you consider her country? I don't know. I'm not all that familiar with her work. Uh, uh, let's see. Well, name some people that are country that I should listen to That woul...
is she kind of country? Oh, yes. Kind of That's certainly where her roots are. Right down there. Uh, uh, how about the Oak Ridge Boys. Very much so. Very much. Okay, well, I like them, too. So I guess I've had a smattering and I just, uh, you know, picked, I've picked up a little bit along the way that I probably would...
Well, it's just difficult for me to believe that anybody's ever going to make a, a record of the rap songs of the eighties. Yeah, the greatest hits, right, Yeah Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, it, it, it'll, if it stands the test of time, we'll see. That's true. And, uh, then it'll, if it survives, then it'll just probably be ...
So, it's kind of funny the way we listened to the stuff, but, I don't know. Well, you got any more? Well, the big key is that, I think you've already stated, that all music is rooted in the classics and it has grown from there. this short. Well, that's, Okeydoke, well, it was great. Yeah. And we'll, uh, listen to some ...
How many children do you have? I have four. Oh, four, okay, okay. How many do you have? Well, I have two children and, uh, two stepdaughters. Okay. So we have four altogether, too. Okay. Yeah. Are you, are you running ragged these days? Well, no, because mine are all grown Oh, they are. Oh So the topic for me, I, I can...
Impart me some wisdom, Catherine Uh, I do take care of my youngest granddaughter, uh, most every Saturday. Uh, my daughter and her husband work Saturdays. My daughter is, uh, uh, doing a schedule of, uh, twenty-four hours on the weekend, but she gets paid for forty. Uh-huh. And Dave is, uh, in supervisory work and he h...
Oh Whoa Are you surviving. Is she your oldest child? Oh, no, no, no. No, she's my baby. Oh. She's my baby, yeah. Oh. She was a miracle baby. Was she? Yeah, she really was. Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, that's nice. Now do your other grandchildren live in the Dallas area? Yes, they do, uh-huh. Do you get to see them? They really do, uh-huh. How nice. What a treat. You know, being from Plano, you know, I know so very few people who have extended family in town. I'm real jealous when I hear that somebody has a...
Yeah. And, you know, just so that they get to know their grandparents, but also for help Yeah. We don't, we don't have that luxury. But, we have lots of friends, and, and everybody tends to be in the same boat. So we, we trade off a whole lot with friends and, you know, run here and run there. We're right smack dab in ...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, uh, she's tried many, uh, avenues Yeah. and, and so now it's just, you know, that she's kind of resolved herself that, yes, this is going to be the only one Yeah, and she devotes, yeah. And they're focusing on all of her, uh, welfare. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, well, our kids, you know, uh, my daughter ...
Isn't that neat? Yeah, so, So we have been really up to our eye balls in fund raising and trying to get, uh, That's wonderful. Well, that's wonderful. Yeah, it is. It is. So, you know, and then she plays softball and my son plays baseball and my stepdaughter plays softball so we, we tend to do a lot of running. Things ...
you're, Now I think everything is doing, doing, doing, out of the house. Which can be very hectic. Yeah, yeah. It can be and, and sometimes I, you know, I kind of long for the good old days when we didn't do all these running. Yeah, it wasn't so But on the other hand, we just love watching the kids play and getting to ...
Uh, Yeah. My, uh, second grandson is in A Cappella and I know what you're talking about when he's involved, you know, the children are involved in that, Uh-huh. and he's been, he has traveled and they have won awards, so I Oh, really. Yeah. Uh-huh. And, I know where you're coming from Yeah. and it's, it's very nice. It...
Going to, Yeah. And, uh, A, a, a team effort, yes. Yeah, and so I've been real pleased with that, too. I think they've learned some real good life skills. Uh, you know, being involved in all those things. That, That's wonderful. And, uh, That's really is nice to have in your background, that, you know, then you can, yo...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, uh, I, Give me some wonderful advice Catherine. What is the best advice of mothering that you know? The best of, Well, uh, Cathy, I think if you look to the Word of God and, uh, think on the things that are pure and lovely Besides don't sweat the small stuff Uh-huh. Oh, that's good, that's real good...
Well, I would agree with that. We're also real active in our church and my kids do an awful lot with that. Allyson sings in the choir. I told her that's a gift from God and you need to return that back. Oh, absolutely. That's right. And you owe, you owe that back to God because he's given you that ability and that tale...
I do not. Okay, wow Do you? Have you? Have I? Yes, uh-huh. Uh, no, not actually Okay, well, yes I do. Okay. In fact, I am at work right now. Uh, and so let me take the lead, uh, Angela. Uh, I think what is really important, uh, of course, salary is very important, because that's why you are working for your, for the mo...
Okay. And so we could, we could talk about, uh, that path, you know, how important you think his benefits are. And, and, and, uh, how important you think they are and if, what would you like to see increased in his benefits. Okay. Like, uh, perhaps, uh, he has, uh, the benefit of having eyeglasses for the family, uh, u...
I think any, any, even if your insurance policy is not the greatest. You would still have something. Exactly. You you would not be pulling it out of your account all of the time just by yourself. Right. Also, for working women uh, I think a lot of the companies should start providing for day-care in the, in the, in the...
And it would be just, And they would not have the quality, basically be me working to pay for them to be at a day care, center. And they, would be deprived of their mother. Exactly. Yeah. No, I understand that totally Besides which, it would be easier, uh, there's a lot of single mothers out there now, from divorces ...
I think I, think it would be fair. I do too. I think if, if the company could not provide it all on their own, for the, for the people that would be using it, you know, a certain amount of their salary would go to it. Right, that you, Right. That's right. But it would still probably be cheaper with the company helping,...
Eye care is good. I do not, I am not I do not think we have that on our policy. Okay. But, uh, we, Vision, I guess it's called, vision care. Yeah. It would be great, I mean, uh, the glasses that, the exams themselves are not expensive, it's the glasses. It depends on who examines your eyes. Yeah, that's true. If you ha...
but, she is like, on the verge of it or, something. Oh. Oh, okay, so, Her eyes are changing, Yes. and she has to be tested periodically. And, and those are expensive tests. Uh-huh. Yes, they are. Now, I think your insurance covers her on that, Uh-huh. but you know, for something like that, that's just as bad as a medic...
and, uh, you know, people have needs in their life that unique to us, to them. Right. I mean, we are all different so, Now, I would like to see better dental insurance to me. Was that our beep? Well, no that's my other phone. Oh. Huh. So, that's it that's okay, my, that phone is ringing to an empty desk and she's on va...
because on, on a lot of the dental insurance, they do not cover that well. For the, the orthodontia stuff. Yes, that's true. Orthodontic work is terribly expensive. Yes, it is. Especially when you have a lot of problems with the children teeth, and, and you have to really get them when they are young, in order to have,...
Right. Uh-huh. But just enough that his bite is off a little bit and it's like four hundred dollars, and my insurance is only going to cover like fifty of it. Well, I tell you I, I just read an article in the paper about what they are doing, I think it was an ad in, in our publication at Texas Instruments, where they a...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. There have been some things, you know, there's things done that are just So outrageous. I know, I know. Yeah, that I do not know how, I do not really there's any other way to deal with it. Right. Well I, I guess my concern is what we are reading, especially in Texas right now with them letting out the p...
Right. Right. They are the ones with the rights. They have the right to, uh, you know, I think I watched something last week, uh, , I am sorry, the accused has the right to a speedy trial. But, the victim does not have the right, does not have the same does not have the same, the same emphasis on those things, as far a...
Right. Right. Well, they can not get any, if the judge is going to have any award to the victim, it just puts off their collecting it. *probably should be cannot The , Yeah, that too. It's, it's really bad, Um, it, I, I think that, uh, you know, that there needs to be a way that, you know, once someone has gone through...
and, I mean, it's just so, so abundantly clear that they did it. Right. But appealing, you know, and continuing to appeal, like four or five or six times. To have convictions overturned and then they have to be retried and all that. It's such a waste of time and energy and money. And it, it just, that's what keeps, tha...
Uh-huh. And how do you feel about murders of law officers or fire people or something that are, because they have had them, they have had them killed when they have, Well, what bothers me, that bothers me a great deal, I had a friend who was a police officer, who was killed in the line of duty. Um, um, um. And the thin...
Uh, uh, uh. And it was, it was really terrible. I mean, uh, I had seen him like three or days before that. Uh-huh. He, we had gone out, uh, with he and his wife and that was really, really disturbing you know, that that happened. Uh-huh. And these people, you know, in the, in the course of the trial, you know, came up ...