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and the, all these kids, they have got an excuse for everything. Yeah. And I can see it continuing on when they are adults. I just, Yeah. It's, it's, uh, I, I sometimes think if I were on a jury and had to make the decision could I. And I like to think I could, like you, if, if especially violent crime, where serial ty...
I think that's the main change. What do you think? Well, I think that's a big part of it and I, I think it maybe started because women wanted outside of the home and, I almost think with our society and, and inflation and the cost of things it's anymore it's almost couples have to work outside the home. Right. That's ...
Yes. I have two and that's been a big deciding factor because I mean I never wanted to be a career woman, Right. but as long as I you know, was going to work I was going to do as, as much as I could, as well as I could et cetera. Right. Right. And I, I wanted to stay home when I had kids. Well, I have two. I have a fo...
It's full time work. Yeah. It was so hard for me to work full time. Uh-huh. Of course, my kids are, are a little older but then you, then you give up the money. Yeah. You know? You do there's of course, you know, everything you give up something but I just, I, the kids are so wonderful Yeah. . But I do think that's one...
I know. And if she worked it was part time and it was work that was done while we were maybe at school, and she was there when we got home. Yeah. You know, and, Well, I've decided now in fact, I'm just, I'm substitute teachers aid which is a, afar cry from my travel agent career, which I loved. Uh-huh. But I'm, I'm th...
See, and I think, Of course, their, their ages, they are almost seventeen well, sixteen, fourteen, eleven, and nine Oh. Oh. and we are just running every direction and, But see, it's such an important time to be home. You know. It is. And that, was important to me enough, It is. you know, my husband was raised, uh, hi...
Right. and, and I want to be able to do those things so. I think that, you know, it's good. You know, sometimes I'll have the cookies ready when they, come home Yeah. and, and a lot of my boys, uh, my older boys' junior high friends will come over. In fact, everyday, I've got boys hanging around, and it's wonderful I...
I think they are still going to have to work. That we are because it's so expensive. If we want, uh, extra clothes, the extra car, the extra, Right. The thing is, when a woman does work, then there is the clothes to buy, Uh-huh. and then there is the gas, Uh-huh. and then there is the lunches and then the day care. The...
Then you work summers unless you are a teacher. Are you a teacher? No, I'm not, and I would love, you, you, you talked about having the summers off and I thought, oh, that would be so wonderful. And I love the little preschool they are in. It's wonderful. Uh-huh. You know, so I feel good about them being there but it's...
Uh-huh. Please come back to work. and we'll pay you this . Sure. Yeah, yeah. And it's been a real tough decision but I'm very happy to be here with my kids. My kids, we've seen a remarkable difference in, now that I'm home. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Yeah. I'm real, and I'm, but I've been doing a lot of volun...
I'm hoping in about three to five years I'll be able to stay home and my kids, of course, will be in school then but I'll, be there mornings, I'll be there noons, I'll be there afternoons and all. Right . Yeah. I feel like, that's good Well, and I can work part days in my husband's business, you know, so that, he c...
Uh-huh Some, a gentleman, uh, that was one of the hi-fi murderers just had his conviction overturned, well, appealed again. I guess we have the longest, uh, running inmates for death row too. Uh-huh. And then we had another guy, uh, Ronald Lafferty, that thought God told him to kill his sister-in-law. Yeah. He just got...
By, by by saying well, this, doing this particular crime in this particular way is a capital crime now. Well, I kind of agree with terrorism. I think those guys should be done away with. That's one of the worst, crimes in my book and, uh, drug dealing, um, that's close but, uh, terrorism definitely. And uh, selling o...
I've it, it seems like it's gone, gotten carried away, um, and I, I do find it hard to know where to draw a line, and so if I had to draw a line, I'd say just no capital punishment. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't see that it accomplishes a whole lot, whereas I do think that convicting people and, and incarcerating t...
Uh-huh. And I think that things like rape, uh, you can't get over, uh, it takes a lifetime. I see, so, so if, if William Kennedy Smith had been found guilty, you believe he should have been, uh, executed? Uh, if it was, Yeah. A six person jury could have decided either way, of course If it was, it would probably have ...
Yeah, that's, that's for sure. Yeah, it's a tough question, isn't it, on whether, at what point do they become so detrimental to society that society can't afford to keep them around to keep giving them chances. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, let's see, so the other question that they wanted was whether the place that we live in, ...
And the last time we went was in, um, well, I guess it was, it was like hunting season, and we went down to like a hunting ground and a lake Lake Sam Rayburn which is in East Texas. Uh-huh. Yes, oh, Very good. I bet it's pretty over there. It is real pretty. Um, let's see. What do you think, what kind of camping, uh, ...
A pop-up trailer, huh. Yeah. What do you have? We have a tent. A tent? Yes So I guess we really rough it. Really. And we really enjoy that. Uh, one thing, uh, I've done all sorts of camping. I've, I've camped, uh, in the snow on a glacier. I've camped, uh, basically almost anywhere, even to the point where we've had to...
And yes, I, to answer your questions earlier, yes, I, we do enjoy fishing, and I do go fishing. Haven't done a whole lot down here. We recently moved from the Rocky Mountain area up in, uh, northern Utah down to here because of work, and, uh, haven't been able to enjoy fishing like I used to up there, which is, uh, cle...
although I've stayed in K O A campgrounds, uh, we've never done that just to go around and camp. Um, personally, I, when I, when we were growing up and when we were going camping, I thought that was a little too structured of a camp ground. Yeah. Um, you know, that was mainly for people in motor homes or, or had traile...
and, normally I go with a whole group of friends Uh-huh. and we just kind of go and hang out and just do fun stuff. Enjoy it, huh Roast marshmallows. Tell scary, or scary stories around the fire and, Yeah, or, um, take a deck of cards if we can actually see and, um, play cards and stuff. Oh, yeah. You know, lots, a lot...
kind of makes you appreciate some, a lot of the things you take for granted. Yeah Running water Running water your hair dryer and a private bathroom. curling iron. Yes What about your family. Do your kids and everything like to? Yes, they really do, they have a great time, and like I mentioned, uh, the, we, we've been ...
and I'm calling from Garland, Texas. Yeah, this is I'm in Dallas. Oh, okay. Because yesterday I talked to someone upstate, I'm not even sure where, and my husband talked to the people in Utah, so. Um, anyway, let me press one. Okay Okay, um, let me see, I think we've only planned one family reunion in our life, so we d...
and, um, so many people were coming that we were trying to figure out how much food we were going to need and, and, um, how much, um, beverages we were going to need and this and that, and oh, it just grew and grew and grew, and, um, when the time came, only about half that amount of people came. So, it wasn't, you kno...
Yeah. And if, uh uh, they come from far away, it's, uh, it, it, they take it more seriously Yeah. and, Uh-huh, I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. My family's not very big but, uh, we're kind of. Your family's from where? Well, I have a, a, a brother lives in Indianapolis, a sister lives in Chicago, and my folks live bac...
Yeah, it is. And I'm, I'm sure they're a lot more organized too, because they've done it before. Yeah, and it's, it's just something that they, they plan on doing every summer. They just have a weekend picnic, That's great. and every year everyone asks when is it happening and where is it happening Oh. Yeah. and they ...
So it was a, it was good, it, uh it worked out very well. Uh-huh. One interesting thing that they did at the time is they, um, they videotaped the, the whole shebang which, it made a nice remembrance of, of the entire party. Uh-huh. Yeah, more people want to come back again. Yeah, they want to come back. Yeah, that's g...
What, what do, I guess interesting if you had a, a, a very extended family that, that kind of involved a lot of people that cousins and things that you don't really know, that you've never met, it'd be interesting to meet a lot of those people. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, I don't know how you would go about, uh, getting them tog...
so I, What are your favorite T V shows? Uh, I guess one of my favorite ones is CHEERS. Yeah. I always liked that one. They're always so funny. And I also like the COSBY SHOW Yeah. Yeah. Those are probably my two favorites. Yeah, I, I, I rather enjoy the COSBY SHOW. My wife and I both like COMMISH. You know, I've watche...
Uh, around here at least. Uh-huh. I guess it depends on what channel you're getting. You know, what system you're getting it through. I can't, Uh-huh. Yeah. I, yeah, I saw it one time and I really liked it, but I just haven't, uh, seen it, you know, watched it since. Uh, we, we always enjoyed it. It, it seems to be kin...
And he seems to do that sometimes he's tender hearted fellow. Yeah Yeah. I think that's what first drew us to him, the, uh, the, the relationship between he and his wife kind of looks a lot like ours. Uh-huh. But, uh, Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good show. Yeah, uh, Yeah, I always like, I, I like to watch like SIXT...
I've never gotten into the STAR TREK era Yeah, I, I used to be a, used to be a real big fan of STAR TREK. Used to be a Trekie, huh Uh, pretty much, yeah. Uh-huh. I always enjoyed the show anyway Yeah. And STAR TREK's in a or the, uh, STAR WARS set Uh-huh. uh, one of the first STAR WARS movie? Yeah. I think I watched it...
Uh-huh. going to say, I hear a baby in the background * B.66 and slash units? But, uh, no, it, uh, we don't do a whole lot of T V watching, but that, uh, I don't know if you heard them or not, I got a twelve year old, twelve week old baby. Uh-huh. Yeah, that, between that and school it's not , I imagine that keeps yo...
That must be tough. What are you hoping for, a boy or a girl? It doesn't matter, just a healthy baby. Well, we had a sonogram, but we told him not to tell us, so it's going to be a surprise Yeah. That's the best way. Yeah. I mean, it's like finding out somewhere in July what you're going to get for Christmas. I mean, y...
I, I, I still watch cartoons sometimes, every once in a while when my sister comes to visit so, The new cartoons don't seem to be worth much, but the, uh, well, a couple of the, uh, ones Disney's doing aren't too bad but, Well, you know, it seems like a lot of them are a lot more violent than they used to be. Oh, yeah....
Yeah. and, Gone are the days of those things they Uh-huh. what was it I, uh, T N, Turner Broadcasting Network used to, used to, uh, do the Saturday morning and Sunday morning cartoons, the old cartoons. They used to put between the first and second feature at the theatre. Uh-huh. Those old little ten minute jobs where,...
Just my husband and I and the two dogs. Yeah. So what about yours? Well, my wife and I and we've got a thirteen week old baby so don't do much cooking for him yet. Uh-huh. Uh, So I guess it's supposed to be dinner party, is that what they said? Uh, yeah what kind of menu would you plan for a dinner party and, uh, what ...
If it was pretty informal about anything. Uh-huh. Sometimes we'll have, uh, we'll have a bunch of people over and cook deer. Breast of chicken Oh, gosh, yeah. How do you usually cook your deer? Huh? How do you usually cook your deer? How do we usually? Yeah. On the grill, we'll take the back strap and soak it in Italia...
I understand. We just had, uh, deer stew sort of uh, it was deer steak stew. Uh, well about a day, day and a half in the crock pot, uh uh, some deer steaks in kind of a mushroom gravy. Uh-huh. Ooh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, some veggies in it. Did you kill the deer? No. No. No, the times I've been out deer hunting, I, I can ...
and, you know, but the whole group goes out hunting and then at the end of the day, they split it Uh-huh. and whoever brought it down gets the lion's share and the rest of it is split with the rest, with everybody in the group. Oh, well, that's nice. Well, he they, they went out last year and almost everybody got it, t...
We, we either crock pot deer or we'll, uh, you know, put it out on the grill so that, uh the bulk of the tallow will dribble off of it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. We we usually have most of it made into, uh, hamburger meat, though. And cook, you know, spaghetti with it. Yeah. Yeah. Chili. That is good. So, Deer spaghetti is...
Um. Usually it's, one other couple come over for a dinner. Uh-huh. Let's see, what did we have the last time we had guests over. Ah, yeah, we had a, uh, a turkey loaf. Oh. Which, uh, kind of taco turkey loaf. It was good. Uh, scalloped potatoes. Oh. No, mashed potatoes. Uh-huh. Mashed potatoes with, uh, cheese melted o...
I'm on a diet Oh, don't you hate that? I've got a, I got a few pounds to lose myself. That's okay. Um. I've been fighting my weight since I was about ten years old. Yeah, I have, too. I was real skinny till I was ten. Yeah, yeah, I was, left the fourth grade weighing about a hundred pounds and started the seventh grade...
No. Maybe you're not in Dallas. Okay, I'm from the, uh, I'm from Dallas. I'm in Richardson. Okay. Uh, What do you think as far as air pollution in the Dallas area? Well, I have some small experience in this area. The brown haze that you see if you look down Central towards downtown a lot of that is, uh, tied up with th...
but gasoline, of course, now the lead's out, at least theoretically, uh, I guess you could say we're picking up some sulphur because a lot of the fuels does have sulphur. That's why we get that rotten egg smell sometime off the catalytic converter the sulphur, yes. Oh, really? And that's, uh, course hydrogen sulfide, w...
and, I I think, I think they been working on the highways around here since I've been here, and I think, I think they'll be working on them long after my wife and I are gone. Well, I guess, I, not trying to top you, but I grew up in Dallas county and I can remember when they built the north part of North Central which ...
Yes. Right along in there somewhere, suddenly the air feels cleaner. Have you noticed that? I tell you what, I, I don't think I really have, but I'm going that way Tuesday and I'm going to make it a point to. Well, sometimes it depends on which way the winds blowing Sure. but, uh, I also travel a little bit and, uh, I ...
Right. and, quite honestly, with the exception of being involved in a part ownership of a little bass boat, I have never really got into sailing or boating. I do, uh, quite a bit of sailing. I own a sailboat that I keep it parked up on the scout lot of my scout troop Oh, do you, well, great. and we take it out and we d...
It's a day sailer. It does have a little kind of cabin thing that you can store things in Right. but you couldn't really sleep in there unless you sort of stuck your body out the hole, back into the main part of the sailboat. I I understand. But, but it's, they're, they can be black holes to throw money into I tell you...
It takes a, a pretty good amount of maintenance to keep one up it's a lot of fun, I think uh, just from the standpoint of getting away from the dodge here, You bet. I know, my wife and I were first married here aunt and uncle, aunt and uncle up in New York, they kept a boat on Jamaica Bay and we used to go out with the...
and he had a boat and, uh, the I never seen so many boats in all my life. People actually park their car when they get to their place they're staying, townhouse or condominium, whatever they own and they, they go boat. Use the boat for transportation. I mean they go, if they want to go to the lounge to have a cocktail,...
Uh, once I get my son into and through with college, he's going to be starting, uh, Rice next year so he's going off, but uh, once I get to that stage where I'm not paying for something else and, uh, I don't have to worry about a lot of other scheduling things, where I've actually got the time to go out and enjoy it, u...
Oh, I know. And if you if you're a big enough boat to have the little auxiliary motor on there, at least you can kind of drop the sails and putt on back in And putt putt. Sure. Well, that's neat. But it's fun. Where do you work? Who are you with? I own an insurance agency, a managing general, a wholesaler of insurance,...
but I do have some neighbor kids, lots of little neighbor kids. Uh-huh. That, I go out and, uh, I play ball with them. You know, it's, because like this one that lives right next door, her mother does some work at home on computers Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and it just seems like she doesn't have any time for her. Which is kind ...
and then he went to a baby sitter that this lady had about five other kids that she baby sat, you know Uh-huh. but we always had our days off together and we went camping on vacations. So we had a lot of time together that way you know. Yeah. Well when my mom, uh, when I was growing up my mom worked too, but she worked...
So, it's really rough. Uh, I have one neighbor that's, uh, the father is a fireman and he works like four days on and it seems like he is suppose to come home for like three or four days, but he can't make enough as a fireman to support his family, you know. So, he's got a second job. Um. So he's, you know he's not hom...
Oh, I am sure they would you know. So, are you planning on, to having any children or, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But we are, we just got married like, like December, so we are going to wait a year. Um. Yeah. And, Then we will try. Well that's good. That's what my uh, daughter-in-law told me. That they were goi...
Yeah, that's a possibility. You know. But, uh, Well, We really want to have a family. We feel like that, that couple you know, you are not giving enough of yourself and you should, you should be sharing your family. And giving your values, you know, making something better of the world by raising up good kids and lett...
uh, do you plan on staying home after you have your children or do you, do you work or what? Well, well I, uh, I am in, I am in a different situation. I am a missionary Uh-huh. and I am home on furlough. It called, like I have worked for four years in Africa and I come home for a year. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And then we go ba...
Uh-huh. But we have, then we have decisions that we have to make that are hard about schooling, like do you want to home school your kids on a computer program you know, that kind of thing Uh-huh. Uh-huh. or do you send them away to boarding school and if you do that when do you do it and that's a, Do you play? Yeah, I...
We lived really close to a par three golf course. Really? And I'd go up there with friends after school a couple of times every week and then for, uh, for years, I don't know, after elementary school, all through junior high and stuff, I didn't play cause I think I just got so frustrated when I was little I'd, my body...
so, uh uh, I'll be going back down there in May and hopefully be picking it up a little more regularly. Uh-huh. Right. the one factor that really bothers me is the expense of playing golf. I was going to say I mean it's a great game but I mean to play a really nice course, you've got to have a really big wallet I mean....
Can you get like a, a student discount type of thing or, Uh, a little bit but not a whole lot. I mean I, you'd think you would but, uh, you don't so. I, Yeah. What, what, what are green fees run there? Uh, well they range anywhere from about five bucks for your basic city type course up to fifty, sixty dollars for a re...
Yeah. And I guess , well it's free for me Yeah, uh-huh. Somebody's paying but not me. Well, that's the way to do it though. Yeah That's the way to get in some good practice without having to pay for it all the time Yeah, definitely. As far as watching golf, I mean, I can watch it on T V but it's kind of boring. Yeah. I...
Yeah. I mean, it, they do, they do a generally okay job but like you said, it's, it's kind of boring actually. Uh-huh. What I really, I, uh, had a chance, they had the P G A tournament up in Indianapolis last year Oh, yeah? and I was able to go and see one of the rounds of that and that was really fun. I mean you knew ...
But, uh, that's, that's wild though. I'll have to see if I can't get a chance to go, You got I mean it's, uh, it's a lot more exciting than actually than watching it on T V. And if you pick a group of golfers and follow them around, I mean, it's just, watching them the whole time instead of like on T V, you get to see...
Uh, I don't really know. I'm a math computer science major right now. Okay. Definitely not golf, right No I it'd be nice to be a pro golfer. I mean, it seems like that, that would be an okay life just to hang out and, Yeah. If you're good, you can really rake in the bucks. what was what was that movie that they had ou...
That's right. . So. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. I guess when I get back, I'm going to school in Florida actually. Uh, and, fortunately, I've been able to, to play some golf on a student budget which is real helpful, you know. Uh-huh. But, it, it's unfortunate, you know. You hear about Japan. I guess...
Yeah I saw one of those on T V. That is pretty wild. . Yeah. Yeah, I, I played, uh, uh, eighteen holes with some Japanese guys in, in Gainesville, as a matter of fact. And it was really wild. They were into it. Yeah. You know, they kicked our butt all the way to, Hi Okay. Do you work with a company that, uh, gives drug...
What, uh, did they do that before you went in or what? Uh, they, they do it before you go in and, occasionally they'll have a, a random urinalysis. Oh, they will, huh? Yeah. So you can't be smoking marijuana in, in the military anymore Oh. Okay. Well, I've, I worked, I don't work right now because my company I worked f...
You know, uh, I don't think anybody needs anybody that's, to be working for them that's on drugs of any kind you know. Uh-huh. Yeah, definitely. But, uh, I don't know whether I believe that they should just randomly do it. I think they should kind of warn them, like, you know, well we're going to do that or maybe tell ...
Huh. The only problem is, you know, if you have done drugs but you've stopped and, uh, you do get caught, it is kind of, kind of harsh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I suppose they fire you and everything right then, huh? Or what do they do with you guys if, that you guys get, Uh, we get counseling and, uh, I think part of our p...
Yeah , really. You're so stupid, God and you just watch it on T V and see how it just burns your brain completely up, you know. You don't, Yeah, wastes your future. Yeah, really dumb, huh. Yeah. But, uh, Let's see, what else was I going to say here. Uh, what do you think about our, uh, like, uh, other government agenci...
About it coming into our country. You know, they just slap somebody's little hand, and, you know, well, don't do that again and and then you know, they'll get out Oh, I know, yeah. They aren't . and they're right back at it again. Yeah. Right now it is, it's too lucrative for the drug dealers so the risks are worth it...
so they can test me all I want. Yeah. I wonder what if you take medicine if that would effect it. Oh see, that's, it is a problem. Sometimes some medicines will give off a, a false positive. Yeah, see now that that would be really unfair then, huh? I've heard of, I've heard of that, yeah. Yeah. You know. I believe you...
Well, it was nice talking to you Rose. Okay, Lewis, and maybe I'll talk to you again. Okay Alrighty. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye Okay. Uh, we keep a monthly budget. I just recently stopped working so I can be home with my kids so we keep a monthly budget and we try to stick to it are kitchen noises I know. It, it's really di...
Uh, we, uh, my husband gets paid once a month Uh-huh. and when he gets paid, I pay all the bills. Uh-huh. And out of his check they take a savings and out of my check, they take savings and retirement both, out of both checks. Uh-huh. Yeah. So, as far as extra savings, we really don't have that much extra to save. Yeah...
Well, I know. We do, my husband gets paid twice a week and so we pay all of the little bills, uh, one paycheck and then like the mortgage and the electric bill, you know, those big bills the second second pay Uh-huh. Yeah. and then, again, he does have a savings that comes out, you know, for Christmas and stuff, that...
Yeah. But, uh, Yeah. It's nice that it's there. I know. But I, you, it's just really is difficult. Uh, neither one of us has had a raise in a couple of years. Yeah. And, of course, the cost of living keeps going up so much. Yeah. Groceries are outrageous and I keep saying my check does less and less but, Yeah, yeah. Th...
and it seemed like we spent more. Then a lot of it was going to, uh, daycare and that kind of thing. Yeah. So it just seems like with me staying home, we had that big cut but we save more I don't know how and I don't know why but we Well I, uh, I know that since I do work, I buy a lot of quicker cuts of meat and, uh w...
I guess that's kind of like the way we do. We, I, I don't, I don't know how it comes out. It just seems like we save a little bit more whereas, where I was working, Well, I'm sure you do. Uh, I do not, well I do not have to pay child care during the winter. My son's old enough that he likes to come home uh, from schoo...
Yeah, it is It is, yeah. But you know, if they're going to be in daycare then they need to have some activities other than just being there. Uh-huh. do you have two children? I have two. One is four and a half and the other one's two and a half, so. Well they're expensive too. Uh, just the outgrowing of their clothes ...
Yeah. But, uh, And medical bill. Yeah. Although the insurance we had was good, uh, when Thomas was younger. A lot of the stuff had to be paid up front and then you were reimbursed. So it was nice when you'd get a couple of hundred dollar check from the, insurance, but in the meantime you had to put out the money first...
but, Well, you probably wouldn't want to do it forever. I don't know though Okay, uh, well, we just got our income tax return and I'm perfectly happy. What about you Well, let's see. I haven't got mine yet because my parents are getting all that stuff at, uh, at home in the Bay area. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, I'm not sure ho...
Yeah. It, it's one of those necessities of life that we all have to, you know , pay taxes but, although it is kind of a pain sometimes though. How high are the taxes going to be when my children are my age? Uh-huh. You know, that, that's, that's scary too. Uh-huh. Because it's not anything like the way it was when I wa...
but someone has to pay for it and that's us. Yeah and then you find out about all these things about are your taxes, you know, taxpayers, are, is your money going to where you want it to go and. There's going to a special this week. I, I can't, I can't if it's TWENTY TWENTY or one of those things where, uh, I think it'...
You know, it's like fifty percent of everything you make is already gone before you even get it. Uh-huh. And that, that's kind of a scary thought. I hope it doesn't come down to that. Yeah But, on the other hand, they also, while those countries that have high taxes, also have things like, uh, socialized medicine, thin...
Uh-huh. work hard to get, you know. I like to know where it's going to. Yeah, yeah. That's true. Uh-huh. What do you think about these items that are going to be, uh, taxed even more. Like, uh, tobacco and that kind of thing I think in a, in a way it's good, in a way it's not. Uh, but I think in general it's probably g...
Okay Uh, I just currently quit my job and so I really don't receive any benefits right now Right But my husband does and, uh, I think one of the, uh, my, first of all, always salary and the second thing is, uh, because we have children, so it would be, uh, health benefits and medical benefits and and, uh, right now we ...
Uh, I've worked for, for for awhile and they are, you know, a really academic type of place. And then I've worked with regular, you know, industry type places. And then with others that are kind of half way between and stuff. So I've seen a wide range of both, you know, nonsalary type benefits and other stuff, you know...
Right. so that's not so bad, you know. Yeah. You know, it's kind of a give and take kind of thing, I think. Uh-huh. Uh, I say that health care is probably definitely number one though. want to just, you know, all your salary can't even begin to pay for what you can wind up losing, you know in a major illness or someth...
Flexible hours are, are pretty important to me as well. Yeah. Uh, cause that makes a big difference. My wife works part-time. Uh-huh. And she works, uh, as a assistant manager in a fabric store. Uh-huh. And so she works a lot of evenings and weekends and so two days a week, I, uh, manage to get home early enough to mee...
and it's already dark unless it's summer time, you know. And even in summer time, sometimes you get home so late that there's, you know, you can't do anything with them. Yeah. And especially in the winter. I mean, you get up in the dark and come home in the dark you know. It's like, it's like a vampire sometimes Yeah. ...
I've worked for a few, you know, several thousand plus, you know, type companies. And it, and especially if you're doing like professional work. Where you know, it's kind of ethereal as to what you're doing you know. Yeah. Yeah. If you're, like I've, I work with, uh, computer systems a lot. So it's kind of hard to say,...
And that does make a a person want to stay an interesting topic. Yes. The, uh, type of cars that I was, uh, I would be most interested in if I was going to buy another car now would probably be something like a, uh, Mazda Miata. Uh-huh. Uh, the, uh, I'm very much a, a fan of sports cars. Ah. Boy, you and my husband wo...
It's certainly, I wouldn't have to worry about it breaking down all the time Oh, really. Yeah What's the, how old is your car? Uh, well I have a, I have a nineteen eighty, uh, eighty-five C R X. Oh. Uh, which is, you know, it's, it still works fine Yeah. Right. But it's, it's actually, it's kind of annoying cause I've ...
uh, yeah, that's a pretty good price and they're, they're, they're, they're so nice to drive. Yeah. Really? I've never driven one. Uh, uh, it's, it's, it's nice. They're, I've been down to a dealer and driven them. And I've also driven one at a, something Mazda put on where, uh, they went to, uh, autocross events acro...
It was just, it, it's just so smooth and. Really? Yeah Yeah. Nice car. What are you interested in? Whatever my husband buys Yeah. You you don't get involved in, uh, car decisions? Oh, not too much. No. We, uh, we just got rid of a full conversion van that, that I, I, that wasn't me. That was my husband. He wanted a van...
I can understand. And then, Oh, I'd want a minivan yeah. They're nice. Because I'm with the kids all the time. Oh, yeah. That's perfect for that. Yeah. Yeah. And, It's not, it, it's small enough that it's easy to drive. Yeah. You pick up I pick up my little one from preschool Holds a lot. and the whole parking lot's...
I, we were going to trade that in for the van but I just wanted to hold on to it cause I just really enjoy that. Right. And, uh, that's really all I needed was for something just to go here and there and back. Yeah. Minivans are nice. I have a friend who has a minivan. Uh-huh. And, uh, I've driven it a few times and, u...