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or . Yeah. It's amazing what a minivan can do. We went camping this past weekend with some friends that had a minivan. And pulled the, uh, the little trailer behind. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. The pop-up trailer? Uh-huh. And, uh, it's, so it's really amazing how much a minivan you know, what it can do. Yeah. And they're not that ...
And we, we do a lot of, uh, driving. We do a lot of traveling. By car. Uh-huh And so that's the only time that the, that the, uh, conversion van came in handy. But it really didn't cause our, our kids are still little. Uh-huh. So, uh, that was the only time we really needed it. Other than that, it got terrible mileage ...
I'll drool over them. Okay. Uh, mandatory service. Yeah. I don't think it's a good idea, uh, because we'd have to change the constitution to, to, uh, allow, uh, involuntary servitude, uh, in service to the government. And I'm not sure that we could, do that in such a way that we could avoid winding up a slave state. Uh...
See, I, yeah. And I also thought that, uh, that would interfere with, with college work. Yeah. Unless it were tied directly. And they didn't, Yeah. You know, if someone were studying something, take something obscure. Somebody was studying economics, the State Department could offer to send them to the Soviet Union fo...
Every time it comes up it gets voted down. The people who are promilitary oppose because they don't want people to have the right to opt out of the military into something else. Yeah. And the people who are proconstitution oppose it on the grounds that the government shouldn't even have the right to enforce you to join...
normally that would interfere with college, I would think. Wait a, yeah. Let me see if I can get on a cleaner line. If it's my line, uh. I moved. Maybe that is, that's part of it. Yeah it is my line. I was on a radio phone. Oh. All right. That's better Yeah, now their, they, they figure that they can draft you at eight...
and they're almost on the verge of saying that you, if you're going to draft men, you're going to have to draft women. And you're going to have to put them in front of the guns just the same. Right. So, uh, if you're near that age or you know somebody who is uh, you know, be aware of that. Uh-huh. Yeah Well, that's kin...
It's really reached that point. Oh. Uh-huh. Huh. Hey, you're in Perot country. I'm really thinking that this guy might be good for us. I do too I've been, it seemed dangerous. I thought is the guy a closet fascist? And then I find out that he helped rid the United States of the gablers. He's, he's helped out in a lot ...
so I know he's well known in the industry. Uh-huh. They, uh, I, I have high hopes for him. And I think that you know, if he could get people interested and encouraged and to believe that the government was actually for us, then I'm for him. Yeah. I, I. I mean in the Democratic primary, I'm going to vote for Brown just ...
Yeah. I'm an end user. I teach people how to use MacIntoshes and how to buy equipment and desktop publishing magazine production and things related to that. Oh, okay. Uh, my husband works for, uh, Texas Instruments. Uh-huh. And, so, uh, that's how we found out about the Switchboard. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's their project t...
Surely. And, of course, they don't have that here in Texas so, there's ... You mean they don't have the, uh, the smog alerts? No, not in, not in well not in Dallas, that is. Right. I, I, yeah, I spent a summer in Tyler so I know, just east of Dallas there. Yeah. We're going there tomorrow. Oh, really Uh-huh We're pack...
Oh, okay. Yeah, you do then. Uh, the worst city in the, in the world is actually, uh, Mexico City. Is it really? Yes. I would not imagine that. The worst one for smog is Mexico City. Huh. The most polluted city in the world Huh. You learn something every day. . Yeah. I know that they've, they're looking at, uh, uh, yo...
You ever heard of that? Huh-uh. Yeah. Methanol? Huh. No Yeah. Well that's big up here because of the, they grow a lot of corn Oh, yeah Yeah. Uh, that's one thing that they do. At that, it's pretty easy to do. Uh-huh. And the, uh, unfortunately, it still contributes to global warming cause, you have to, you know, wipe o...
Right. Huh. And, of course, I doubt if there's any, you can buy regular anymore. You buy unleaded. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Drive cars with catalytic converters, and all that. It's interesting. They're, they're looking at, there's some work being done on, uh, automobiles that are electrical powered Uh-huh. And, uh, they...
Interesting thing about gas is when, I mean, about battery powered cars is when you're at a stop light, you're not using any any energy Huh That is good. Unlike a car where it's running. Yeah. A electric car it's on demand. I mean it's either on or off. Yeah. Basically. Huh. You don't have to shift So you, cars become ...
There's, there's a race in Australia with solar powered cars. Huh. And Ford and General Motors and all those compete. But what, I think that was a, a, a setback. That they, I don't know, they went, I don't know, how many miles an hour. I think like Right. Yeah I don't know. Huh. * See note above G M, uh, Chrysler annou...
But, you know, people are buying them. You know whose buying them? *"whose" = who's" The power company. Free, you know, free for them. Well, yeah. Yeah. Kind of interesting so see. Well, it doesn't make sense. Because if they want people to convert, you know. They should make it worthwhile. Uh-huh. Yeah It's top speed ...
and other days it's just really bad, so, I don't know. So what, what kinds of things did you experience in L A when you were there? Or can you remember? Were you there at a? Oh, I wasn't there too long ago. Uh. Cause I haven't been there probably ... Well, you know, going over the hills, you know, coming into the valle...
Well, um, I wouldn't, uh, I definitely wouldn't dispute that, it, it's actually my wife's dog, uh, I, I became part owner six months ago when we got married, but, uh, it, uh, definitely responds to, uh, to authority and, I've had dogs in the past and, uh, it seems, it seems to, uh, respond real well, it, it she's, she'...
Okay. It's, uh, part Chow and part Shepherd and it, as I understand it, uh, both sides of the, were thoroughbreds. So, she's a genuine Chowperd . Oh, that sounds interesting. She has the, the color and the black tongue of a Chow, but, uh, she has the the shape of the, uh, uh, Shepherd. Oh, that's, that's neat. How, abo...
Course, I'm a little prejudiced, of course. Well that's understandable, yeah, it's, uh, You know, the first time I brought her home, she was only, uh, was it six weeks old. And I spread the newspapers out in the kitchen area. Uh-huh. But, uh, next morning, she let me know in no uncertain terms that she wanted to use th...
Yeah, definitely. And, uh, I don't know if you get that kind of greeting or not. Yeah, I can honestly say we do, uh, we, uh, just recently put a security system in our house and so now, uh, in order to, uh, to accommodate the motion detectors we have to keep her, uh, uh, locked up in the, the master bedroom during the ...
and then attached to that is a, uh, twelve foot leash, Okay. so she can cover quite an area. Most definitely. And, uh, she's the best, uh, burglar alarm going. Yeah, yeah, yeah that's, uh, definite security involved in, uh, in a dog like that. Oh, yeah, she, uh, it's the strangest thing, though, uh, children, no matter...
I know our dog has had, uh, some different reactions, she's never really been around children and, uh, if, if the child is, is pretty straight forward, um, she's fine. If, if a child is a little intimidated, she'll jump around and, and yip and bark quite a bit, and if the child gets scared, uh, she's still trying to pl...
and then she'd go get back in and try to play and, and what not, but, uh, it was, it was just such a, such a new experience for her. She's only been around one and, and sometimes two people at the most so, uh. Uh-huh. What's her name by the way? Uh, pardon? What, what do you call the dog? Oh, it's, uh, Mitzi. Mitzi. Ye...
yeah, yeah, I had, uh, a similar, uh, experience. I, I grew up on a farm so I always had, uh, outdoor pets and, uh, the dog I had when I moved to Dallas about five years ago was a, uh, Springer Spaniel, black Lab cross. Uh-huh. And he was a real, a real lovable type, but, uh, definitely not an apartment type animal Oh ...
Well Randy, we've just about used up our time here, Okay. and I must say it was interesting. Most definitely. I enjoyed talking about pets with you. Well that's great. Maybe we'll get together again in the future. That sounds real good. Take care now. You too. Bye. All right, Amy, how are you doing today? Fine, fine. A...
Okay, you go ahead. Um, I personally think to set a mark with the judicial system and we're talking about criminals, criminal cases that they should bring back hangings on weekends, in public places. Uh-huh. In public places. There is one state that does that, by the way. Really? What is that? I want to say Oklahoma, I...
That's pathetic. Because they just say there's either no room in the system, you know, in the jails for them or, you know, it's just that, it seems like the automatic sentences, if, if a judge has leeway, on what he's going to, you know, sentence someone for between, you know, two months and fifty years and, you know, ...
Yeah, an, yeah, there's just everyday you hear on the news of another one like that. Yeah. Uh, about the issue about sentencing by the judge. Uh-huh. The, the judge presently has an opportunity to intervene, uh, when there's a, my understanding, when there's uh, a verdict and it for example there's a hung jury here in ...
there's a certain percentage of the people there, with sixty percent of the people, uh, seventy percent of the people said, hey, they guys guilty. Right. Rather than have to retrial the whole, whole thing and spend all the money for people to, uh, you know, go back to court and all the lawyers and, I mean it just winds...
I saw on one of the talk shows this woman judge, I believe from Florida, and she just has, just really stiff penalties and I saw that in, in the hands of a judge that really was conscientious and really, you know, took the pains to give a sentence for what was deserved, it could, you could have a, a judge that would re...
Exactly, yeah, yeah. I mean you're, you're in Dallas so everybody, I can't believe they can, uh, like in a murder situations, they look for juries who don't know anything about the system, well or know anything about the, the occurrence, you'd have to be pretty dense, Yeah. you'd be, you'd either have to be in a cave n...
I'm at home with two little preschoolers. My husband works for T I. Oh, that's good, that's good. I thought I heard a holler there in the background, but I wasn't sure. Oh yeah, I've got the dog and two kids waiting here, I'm just locked up in the laundry room Oh goodness, well, I'll let you get, Okay, thanks a lot. By...
uh, I would sort of like to, uh, think about something in the way of, uh, uh, sort of a sporty car but not any, not, you know, a luxury type sporty one. Yeah. But, um, something that still has a lots of amenities and, you know, gadgets and things. Oh, you do want a lot of that stuff? Yeah, well, yeah I like, I like som...
Well, that's, that's a big one in my book, Yeah. but, uh, um, I have preferences for, uh, for some, uh, makers over others, um, and I would sort of like to buy American, Yeah. but, you know, I'm not so totally hung up on that, that I wouldn't buy something else, how about you? Well, um, the last car we bought was Ameri...
Yeah. Brake pads are disposable , you know, Yeah. we know that, but I never thought a clutch was disposable. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought so either. Yeah, so that was, that was kind of a shock Oh. Yeah, I, I guess there's a lot to, to think about when you're trying to make that decision. Yeah, you know, the less actua...
No, but on the other hand, I guess, too, uh, whenever you do have to have some major work done on one of those it costs a fortune. Really? Oh I don't know. Yeah, I've, uh, worked with a couple of people who have owned, uh, various years, uh, Mercedes Uh-huh. and, even though they do a lot of the work themself then just...
Yeah. and I know that a lot of people I've, I've known that have had Toyotas have been just extremely happy with them, that hardly had any problems at all. Yeah, that, I think that's, I think they have a really good, uh, quality. Uh-huh. My, uh, daughter has owned two different ones, and, uh, you know, we've had some w...
They seem to be really durable. Yeah. So, I don't know, I'm, I'm not ready to buy a new car yet, but I don't know, if, if the next time I'm going to try to, to stay with buying something American or if I'm going to go for a little more, what I would consider to be a long-term investment Yeah. Well, and I guess, you kno...
thanks and background Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay, well, go ahead, I'll let you start. Uh, I was thinking about whether or not we should have people, uh, be required to do public service for a year or two. Uh-huh. And I was thinking that you needed to put some waivers in there for the handicapped and also for people that ha...
And then we could maybe give physicals to the rest of the family members, right. What did you say? Give physicals to the rest of the family members and they all had to pass. Oh, yeah. Uh. Uh, I thought it a good idea too, though would be to extend this and make people that are accepting public welfare have to do someth...
and you know all these old people, they would get out of this right. All the ones that are already retired. So what we could do is take all the retired people that are going around in their big mobile homes and they could do public service all over the country. What did you say? Uh-huh. I'm just teasing Yeah, I, I, thi...
I like the idea of, uh, being, uh, a mandatory thing for welfare. Course that's what, um, that's sort of like what Truman had, or was it Roosevelt, I can't remember, um, with the big, Oh with W P A. Yeah. Yeah. Getting people, uh, the, the work program and all the, all the make work jobs. That was sort of public servic...
Caddo Lake. Caddo Lake. It's between Texas and Louisiana, it crosses into both of them. No, I've never heard of it. Well, it's real pretty, it's like a swamp. Oh You know with all the Spanish moss on the trees, it's really, it's eerie. Oh okay, real pretty, like a swamp, oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, I been, uh, I got...
Texans talk to other people. I don't know, where are you from? Uh, Virginia. Virginia, oh, that's neat, I talked to somebody from Ohio the other night. Oh yeah, it is neat to get other people. Especially since you got other, uh, ideas about how people, uh, how people react to things and stuff. Especially when it comes ...
Huh. Mitch Snider, I don't know who Mitch Snider is. Oh, okay, well see that's a D C thing. Mitch Snider is the, the advocate for the homeless that, uh, he, he's said it out here in Washington but he started the um, uh, the movement for creative nonviolence. Yeah. Yeah, he started that and that, that was basically a, y...
right. Yeah. Another one, though, that was good was, uh, what do you think about the social changes for the last ten, twenty and thirty years and what do you think has caused some of the social problems. Uh-huh, that would be neat. I'd have to basically say my birth. *humor That's probably the best one. And we had to t...
In Virginia. But, uh, it's, uh, it's a dirty fuel, that's for sure. Yeah, well how did you get into this program. Excuse me. How did I get into it, oh, I'm an electrical engineer here in Virginia. For T I. No. No. Uh, no, they, I'm in a telecommunications company and they, uh, sent it out in our bulk mail so that if an...
They just, uh, they just sent out a letter to everybody they do business with saying, that you know, if you're interested we're doing a study and, and since, And do you know how much, how long this is supposed to go on. I don't know, no I don't. I don't either. I mean it says just keep on until and they'll notify you. ...
Do you know anybody that's ever done this? Get your own, you're going to get you own T I seven thirty-two or something. I know T I gets prizes. Oh, I didn't hear about that. Probably for T I employees. I was led to believe that if you weren't T I that you get money. I'm not T I. Oh, your not, *typo your you're you don'...
yeah, well he's gotten a good mix. I was saying because I've, like I said, I heard some other people talking that they've talked to different people in different states and stuff. Uh-huh. That's good, especially since you call that one eight hundred number so, so probably knock T I profits margin way down. And it shoul...
bye. I'm going to save my two year old from the pile of grapes she's diving into. Well I'm going to try to clean up the house after my two children for about an hour see if we can walk around. Okay we'll I'll talk to you. Bye. Bye-bye. Okay. All right. Last thing I saw was, um, I think, uh, SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY with...
Uh-huh. Oh So, the, the end scenes are, are kind of suspenseful, you know, when she realizes he's in the house, you know, after her, but, uh, kind of had the feeling along that, uh, why didn't she just tell him to straighten up. Yeah. You know, why didn't she just tell Hey look bucko, you don't get away with this nonse...
I really did. AWAKENING was, it was kind of sad to me. It really was, and it would, it would be to anyone because, you know, they really don't know that much about it. Uh-huh. So this is where the people have been kind of I don't a better word to say than like asleep or in a coma, for a long time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And...
it, it was a big breakthrough, but in time, you know, the, all the side effects started showing. Well, how bad were the side effects? Bad. Oh. Yeah, yeah. They was actually went back like they were, you know, Oh Um. yeah. All it was, they wasn't mild, you know, they was just bad side effects. Um. But I really enjoyed i...
That's strictly for entertainment That was just it was, You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger is getting to be, uh, a bit of a variety actor, you know. At first he was just a big muscle man. Yeah. But he's kind of branching out. He sure is. He is, as a matter of fact, um, Sylvester Stallone, is that his name? Uh-huh. I reall...
Yes. I thought that was just great. It is, it is, isn't it? Yes, yes. I even like some, I mean, some of the original stuff, like I like THE TERMINATOR. At first, you know, it was kind of strange, Yeah. but I still like watching him in THE TERMINATOR. And, and some of the other things. Uh-huh. Um, TOTAL RECALL last year...
I enjoy a lot of movies. Now as far as, let's say, heavy violence, I can't handle Um. I'm not into that, you know, I like RAMBO and all that. Um. I, that's just something I just don't want to watch. Yeah, yeah, and I, I have some, one person at work I know gets really into those goofy horror flicks Oh. and I just keep ...
And she she watches these really gross things you know, like, THE NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, and, The, you know, that kind of, junk. Yeah. Oh, uh-huh. Yeah, uh-huh. Oh. I don't go for that at all. I guess I'm a little too scary for that. I remember when I was real little, I, we all went to some kind of scary movie, and i...
It is, it really is, yes. I, I had a lot of things that I, I, nobody told me that it was all fake. I was just sitting there watching it, going a scared Oh, jeez yeah. Watching, yes, if a scared oh, I don't want to go home, yes, yes Oh, goodness. But I think a lot of kids, it's funny, get the same kind of fears, like th...
I really try to watch what they watch, I really do, because my youngest one, he watches something, you might as well just plan on staying up all night, because you know He'll come in, Mama, I think the ghost is in the house, Mama, I hear it, don't you? They're eight and ten. So they're, you know, it's just a movie, you...
And we were trying to say, Kenny, it's okay, and he didn't want to listen to it. Oh. He just was beside himself, you know, this is supposed to be a nice children's movie, CHARLOTTE'S WEB. He just couldn't stand it that Charlotte was going to die at the end. Die, oh Oh It's funny how your little minds work, isn't it? Oh...
Well, well I've enjoyed talking to you. You too. And maybe we'll run across each other again. Yeah, this is kind of neat. I haven't ever initiated a call. I've just been called, you know, by the switchboard, and, uh, well, the first week, I think, a lot more people were doing it. But I normally get a call like every ot...
My first one was the toughest, it was something like discuss pollution. Oh, uh-huh, oh. It was discuss air pollution, causes of it and cures. Yes. I was going, oh, well Oh. Well, my husband, sometimes, you know, he'll receive a call and he's at work, Uh-huh. and, if I, you know, if I know the topic I'll go ahead and ac...
but I'm really not for sure, though, if Well, I'll let you go, and we'll talk to you later. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Here we go. Okay, um, have you ever been involved in any trials? I sure was. Two years ago I spent some Fourth of July to Labor Day on a jury that was, uh, a change of venue from Columbus, Ohio for a...
but I do, you know, I, I've, I took a little business law in, in college and, and I've, you know, try to keep abreast of things. Uh-huh. But, uh, I think that the, uh, trial by jury is, is a great idea at it's inception back two hundred years ago. Um, right now though it's, it's so difficult because there's so few cour...
That took one full week, uh, to get forty-three people qualified to sit on the jury. And then it was a matter of the selection of, uh, twelve people after that. Actually it was fourteen because we had two alternates. Jeez. And the judge was extremely concerned for our welfare, if we were well, if we were comfortable, a...
and we were not allowed to take any notes of any kind. Uh, and I thought that that was a failing because, uh, from the standpoint that it was difficult to try to remember everything, Yeah. and, and yet the judge said, well, um, if you're taking notes you're missing something, and he was right, there also. Yeah. But, uh...
and money. Yes, I mean that's extremely expensive. I mean, the first thing you had to do when you came before the judge was waive your right to a jury trial. I'm like God , this is ridiculous Yeah. Yeah, I do think that, that, uh, I do think the jury system works but I'd, I also feel, as you said, that the original con...
I, I think they can probably come up with some ways to insure that, uh, you know, people would get a fair trial, and not have to go through this process. Yes. Right. I mean, some things are just so cut and dry. Um, in the, in, you know, the, the level of evidence that they come up with now, I mean, you know, when you s...
I know. I mean, I only heard portions of that but it's absolutely, terrible. Yeah. And, you know, if you beat a dog like that, they'll put you, in jail, you know. Absolutely. Well, we get a few other case, uh, like up at the end of last year where one police officer, it was on a drug raid, uh, was trying to extra, extr...
then we'd need it on that, yeah. Well, it's been very nice talking with you. Well, it's been nice talking with you. Yes, and, uh, good luck on, on calls. Okay, thank you, you do the same. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, I was just looking around my house and thinking about the painting that I've done. Uh-huh. And the l...
Yeah. Anyway, so the kitchen was one of the rooms that got hit with that color. Uh-huh, I see. So I tried to cover it with white, and it was quite a, a feat getting that dark a color covered, and then just the hassles getting around the cabinets, and know if I look underneath my cabinets, I'm not satisfied with the job...
I guess the, the big discussion, just kind of what you were mentioning, has been the color. We ended up with our, our living and dining room are now, uh, kind of a, a light peach color with, uh, and it's got all the old, original hardwood trim and stuff, so we've got the trim in kind of, uh, kind of an off-white. And t...
But, uh, it's, it's been quite an adventure. The other, the other thing that makes it, uh, a little more difficult, we've got all hardwood floors, and, uh, we, we've learned to be a little more careful about covering up the floors since the, since the first time we spent a lot of time on the floor with a tooth, toothbr...
We painted every room in this house, some of them like two, three times. We have two children. Okay, yeah. And, they just, they ruin, it's just terrible what they do. Yeah. And then I have been coloring my hair, and I'm real haphazard when I do it. So I've got dye on my bathroom door. Oh, gosh. And I haven't figured ou...
Yeah. That was horrendous. I mean, I, I couldn't stand the back side going up that high on the ladder. I could get up on the roof and do that. Yeah. But, I dread that the next time. Yeah, I, uh, Yeah, we, uh, our house was painted as part of the purchase contract, so we didn't have to mess with that this time. But I've...
Have you guys tackled your ceilings yet? Uh, a little bit, yeah, yeah. Oh, we got to do that this summer. We're dreading it. Yeah It's like, they're dark. Yeah. Everything else is white. Oh, gosh, yeah. Just, just the opposite of what everybody's, uh, working towards now. Now have you thought about this? That wherever ...
and, uh, we're, they'll be there for a while. We're, we're pretty comfortable with that. But, yeah, it, it, I'm, I'm real nervous every time I, I open a new can. I'm wondering if I shouldn't buy about twenty gallons at one time and keep it all in a, in a washtub or something somewhere because I'm I'm always afraid that...
and I'm always doing all this other stuff, and my wife's hollering at me and wondering what else I've come home with from work this time to, to put in, a ceiling fan or something strange like that. So uh, it, it, it always, it, it, it gets you to look at everything real hard when you start putting a coat of paint on ev...
It, it was actually, it was rented out for a couple of years and things like that. So, we uh, we ended up getting a fairly good deal on it. But, uh, there just isn't enough time, I, I, I find myself going to work knowing that, that there's a job about half done at home, and I really, if I would, if I'd just stay home a...
so I, I moved that, but, uh, most of it, most of it's in pretty good shape. So where do you live? Uh, live in Dallas. I'm in Garland. Okay, okay. Did you try to call this weekend? Uh. To that switchboard, did you keep getting that it was down? No, no, I haven't, uh, I hadn't tried. You didn't? In fact, we were, we were...
well, I've never tried any other kinds of painting besides on a surface like the house like to paint a picture or anything. Uh-huh. I don't know, I can't think of anything else to say about painting. Yeah, that, uh. It hurts your back, and it hurts your arm. Yeah, you know it I get a I get a sore neck from looking up a...
I, like I say, the overall appearance of this house is what really devalued it so much. Uh, I, you know, I, I don't want to put a price on it, but I just feel like we're, every, every gallon of paint adds a tremendous amount of value to the house. You know, every time I do something, aside from that it just makes me fe...
You don't have any carpet down in your house? No there's no carpet in the house right now. See, we've got carpet, and, I haven't figured out how you're supposed to paint it, on down, so that you won't see where you stopped off and still not get it on the carpet. Um, Because every time you move that edger then it gets t...
Okay now they don't understand that, you know, maybe he needed fifty dollars so he held up the seven eleven. *Seven Eleven Yeah. Okay they don't understand that because they have fifty dollars, all the time, so, you know, I think that it, a trial by your peers should be exactly that, someone in your own age bracket, so...
Whether they're acquitted or whether they're actually going to be accused of, you know, and held over for trial. Okay I don't know much about the Grand Jury. How do you feel about the, in Texas I noticed since I've been here, in twelve years that they, they break up the, the trial and then the sentencing part of the tr...
Well I don't think, you know, I don't think that, if I was the criminal, that I would like the judge passing sentence on me. If the jury found me guilty, then they should be able to decide at the same time what my punishment should be. And I think it's, not only that, it's a waste of our money. We have to have a trial ...
We just built a brand new one two years ago. Oh, I think they're all overcrowded. And it's overcrowded. They've, uh, So now they start turning them loose. I think I heard Fort Worth that, uh, they've been ordered to do something because their jail is so overcrowded. They're not allowed to accept any new inmates. Now wh...
and I, I really like the system of house arrest where a, a, someone's wear, someone wears a bracelet like a ankle bracelet that's a monitor, Yeah that, Yeah, and they, They keep, and they are not allowed, I mean, some of them are even allowed to work, they can go to their regular job, they come home, they have to be ho...
That allows people, to actually continue to be productive members of society while they're, you know, paying back for whatever crime they've committed. Yeah, instead of being completely penned up. And that way it would give, you know, the probation department and parole department, they've got to be overloaded with as ...
Yeah. What do they need cigarettes for? Well, see and there's another thing about the justice system that I don't like and there's a lot of people that tell me that, that maybe my thoughts are wrong. I came from California Uh-huh. and when you're in jail, they take you out just like they do in Alabama or anywhere else,...
And they're not, you know, they're not doing anything to support themselves, while they're there. The thing that, the thing that gets me is that while we're supporting them, they're working. Yeah. When they get out of jail they get handed all that money. Yeah. That really ticks me off. I think that while they are in ja...
Exactly, absolutely. And something else that I would, And something else that I would like to see is, is, uh, victim reimbursement, you know, because they, you know, like you say these guys are in jail That's the part that I really think we need to change. and they're working, they're getting paid, but the guy that the...
I, I strongly disagree with any judge passing sentence on a person himself. Uh-huh. There that, I think it works much better if it's, if it's the actual jury. Yeah, because, well, see the jury is dealing with the seriousness of the crime, Uh-huh. the jury gets to see the whole trial, as does the judge, but you know, if...
and, The jury would, would, slam them and, and I think that, that the jury probably has more of a right to sentence than the judge all the time. Yeah. Well, they have a stronger debate, too, because there's twelve people there. They have to decide whether or not he's guilty and then they can sit in at the same time and...
It might be more, it would be more work for the jury, but it would be a more responsible way to deal with it. Yeah it would, yeah, serving on the jury would be definitely more you'd have to be a definitely more responsible person. The thing that I, I don't really like, I, I don't know, if, uh, a lot of jury selection p...
That is very true. That's just. However, our whole economy is based on loans. Uh-huh. Uh, uh, but, bet right this moment, you probably have several loans out or you have borrowed money against your credit card or something Well, Master Charge. I don't have a Master Charge, thank you But, see our whole system is built o...
We might have to, you know, just be able to, I think, if we, a generation went without debt, then the next generation, like, if, if our, our generation, my husband and I, we're twenty-eight, if we lived our lives and didn't become, you know, indebted, like you know, our generation before us, that, um, the budget would ...

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