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Uh-huh. and I look back on that, and I bought shoes. I went shopping. I did not need that money. I did not need it. I didn't need it. I shouldn't have even qualified to get it. I didn't need it. And it would have been a little rough, I might have eaten some bologna instead of roast beef out of the deli, but I did not n...
And they pay cash for everything they buy. Uh-huh. Including new vans, and, so, so I guess, I've seen it done and I know you can do it, you know. But you have to drive that old car until you get that money saved up for that new van. And that's where Americans don't like to do it. And so and we don't want to cut back ou...
Yeah, that is true. Because I always think the mail never comes on these days and you're like, well, what is it You don't even know it's a holiday Well, now don't forget the mail is something else again. That has nothing, they're not civil servant people. But isn't it federal, in the federal budget? No, no, they have t...
Those stamps are valuable, now. Yeah. They probably, hey, I ought to go looking through some of my old mail. That's funny. Yeah, and that is a good short term thing, though. That little things like that, that overall, though, I just think we're just going to, I don't know, see, I know, I guess I'm kind of leery of this...
That's a lot of power for one or two people to have. And so, um, I guess because I, I guess, in fact, I know what their long-term vision is. I'm kind of like, you know, yeah, the only answer is to start over or to totally change our lifestyles. And I don't think Americans are willing to do it. Well, what about, uh, uh,...
But because we're, our motive is interest, our motive is not pure, it just backfires, I mean, none of these nations have paid us back. But, you understand, it's, I guess it's a principle of giving and receiving. You give it, no strings attached and they may never give you anything back, but because there's no strings a...
No. That, that's true. I, I understand that France still owes us money from World War I. Uh-huh. And, uh, World War Two debts have never been repaid. I think the U S just wrote them all off. Yeah. And said, well, we'll cancel it just like they did to the, that Polish debt here, uh, last week. Yeah. Uh, uh, half the cou...
I know. What's yours? Do you agree or do you disagree or I mean, what do you think long term? Well, I don't believe in a single government or a single control for the world. Uh-huh. Uh, that's asking for trouble. People are too different. Uh-huh. I mean you could travel from one coast to the other here in the U S and f...
That's a big laugh, we can't even make English a national language here in our country. Uh-huh. We've got too many, uh, uh, immigrants. Yeah. Yeah. I know. They don't call them immigrants anymore, that was back in my granddaddy's day. Yeah. Different ethnic groups Yes. Yeah but, Yeah. I know what your saying. *typo you...
He, uh, was supposed to serve some time. Well, he did serve his time in the, uh, in the militia. Uh-huh. And he came back. He was a civilian again and his father said well if, Uh, tell you what. Um, I'll let you start Okay. My major source of information, I guess, is T V news Excuse me. I, uh, wake up to it in the morn...
So I've, I've kind of, we have a one year old in the house so it's kind of hard sometimes to watch T V during the night, but I usually try to catch the ten o'clock or, um, those type of . Huh-uh. I have to say, during the war we're, the American public was probably flooded with too much information and as far as the su...
Huh-uh. Yeah. That's a good point. Um, but I would have to say across-the-board, I'm satisfied with the way, uh, the news is spread. Um, of course here at Texas Instruments, uh, the rumor mill runs rampant. The secretary's probably the best resource, of what the layoff status is. Very true. I find T-News very enlighten...
Kind of, Only give the scores. Yeah. But, uh, that's all right. I'm not, outside of pro football, I'm not too interested in other games, other sports, anyway. Huh-uh. But, the, uh, T-NEWS is a good way to keep up-to-date. I think they do a pretty good job of selecting the most important items. Yeah. They do. Surely do....
And, uh, well, I remember one time up in Nashville, Tennessee. One of the fellows got mixed up in a riot that was going on down there, Huh-uh. but he was lucky he got out of it for some reason. Because he was carrying a camera, uh, they left him alone. Ouch. Everybody got excited. Huh-uh. That's tough. That's tough. We...
They're pretty good. Is that right? Yeah. Have a great day. Bye-bye. Now. I'm sorry, Ready to go. Okay. excuse me. And, uh, I do that, we recycle, uh, newspapers. We take, you know, the DALLAS MORNING NEWS daily, and the Plano paper daily Right. and, you know, after a month of that you got a ton, of newspapers. Oh, I k...
Uh-huh. We don't really have enough plastic to mess with, we don't, you know, like we don't drink milk and we don't have children so we don't have, you know, six thousand plastic milk jugs, a month, you know. Yeah, we do, With two, a two year old and a, three year old Yeah. and, so it really builds up with us. Right. ...
Yeah. and they can separate it and then the, you know, trash guys will pick it up. Which would really be handy, you know, for people like shut ins, or, people who can't or don't drive, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Or it just builds up so often, they can't get to the these centers. Yeah. And I'm sure rather than try to, uh, as...
and they took a big huge bin that has paper and plastic, um, and put it in front of the Wal-Mart store in town, Uh-huh. and they, it just really, every time you went by there it was just over flowing, That's right. and so Wal-Mart complained Uh-huh, yes. so they moved it behind the store and nobody knew where it was, Y...
So we do that with, because we have milk cartons, you know, constantly, with two little kids, and the paper, Uh-huh. Sure. but it just builds up, Uh-huh. it would be so nice if they had it, you know at your home, where you could just turn it in so they, they final had enough of a response that they decided to try a sma...
and I think that, you know, if they can get enough going, they'll continue it, you know, throughout the rest of the city Uh-huh. but it's not, I think originally people thought it would be profitable for cities to do this, Uh-huh. and it's not going to be, Yeah, I don't think yeah, that's right. Yeah. I think basically...
and they gave you a little, um, seedling to plant, you know Uh-huh. Right. you could take the, the mulch home with you, you know, and take buckets of that home, Uh-huh. so that was really good idea, Sure. I thought. Absolutely. And there's just, you know, the two of us my wife and I and it's amazing how much stuff just...
Yeah. Well, they're working on diapers, which would be great, That's right, I was, Uh-huh. I've read so many different things about diapers and now their saying that originally they thought the disposables were just awful, Uh-huh. but now their saying that they're, really not that much in comparison to the others becau...
but that just generates a tremendous of volume of trash too, so, Oh, I'm sure it must. Yes, you know I'm not personally involved because I don't, you know, I don't have any children that wear diapers, Yeah. but I'm sure it creates a large amount of, you know, uh, refuse. It does, and you just feel guilty if you don't ...
I guess there's some places where you can recycle aluminum but I don't know about like cans that you keep vegetables and stuff, in, Uh-huh. I don't know if those are recyclable or, I think they're made out of aluminum, Um. Yes. There are, there is a receptacle, you know, at the centers also for aluminum, Yeah. but agai...
ninety-nine percent of ours is newspaper and, uh, you know, uh, glass. Yeah. Well, now when we lived out in California they actually had places where you could recycle if you change the oil in your car, or for aerosol cans and things, like that because they say it's not safe to put those things, in the regular trash Uh...
Our church has a place, where you can take them Right. and they, you know, pass them on to, other families, Yeah. so. Yes we have one of those in town. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. You know, our church each year has a, one of their major fund raisers is, you know, a garage sale. Oh. And there's a ton of clothes always, you kno...
Yeah. And they distribute them to the people, that need them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that's, that's real helpful, too. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure I can't really think of anything else that we could recycle. No, I can't either Yeah. I really can't, um, no, I, I really can't either. Okay. Okay, well, it was nice talking ...
Okay. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay, what types of music do you like to listen to? Well, I primarily listen to classical music when I have my druthers, partly because I find it more soothing. I don't know a lot about classical music so far as, uh, any background in music, but it's the the music I enjoy the most. Ho...
There's, uh, one particular, well there several stations in this area that play, uh, classical music all the time, but there's one in particular that is on both A M and F M so I can listen to it without, uh, worrying. It's cute, though, because my children, when they get in the car, and I have, uh, the button pushed fo...
No, I, well most of it is not all that exciting in that it is terribly repetitious. Yes. It's loud and repetitious without having a great deal of meaning. Now I do like folk song. Um, and there have been some nice folk songs over the years that, you know, kind of still hang around. Right. But, um, but, uh, the more pop...
and so much of the music that was popular at that time, has come back. Uh-huh. And, you, you don't hear everything all the time, but you hear much of the same music, perhaps a new version of it, but it's the same stuff. Um, which is always kind of funny. Right. Um, and I remember my older sister. I have a sister who's ...
I said, Oh no, here we are Crops up every so often. Right, right. It does indeed. I listen to, um, the Christian radio station when I'm in the car. K L T Y. Uh-huh. I like to listen to some of that. Yes, now there, there's some wonderful Christian music when you can find good stations. Yeah. Uh, the problem that I foun...
I thought maybe you lived in Dallas, because that's the complaint I make to my husband about the radio station too. I said, Oh, they're playing one of their ten songs. Yes. It seems like every week they pick ten and they just play them over and over, Uh-huh, and I, I, you know, there's so much available that I don't un...
that's nice. So, is your husband a singer? Well, just an amateur singer. He sings in the choir and he likes to do special music and stuff at church. Right. Yeah. Well, that's a good thing to do. Yeah, yeah, I like to hear him sing. a very soft He does a good job. That's nice, uh, well, do you have children? No, not yet...
Yeah, maybe so. We'll start listening to children's music Oh, there's some wonderful Christian, uh, children's tapes. You can, uh, you can get, Yeah, there are. and I know when my children were younger, um, we found a lot of really nice tapes that they, that they liked. Um, there was an Agape music group, and, um, I, s...
and then you know, talking about that so far as Christian life, too, and it's really cute. Yeah, that sounds really cute. Yeah. Uh, I tell my husband to sing to my stomach, because they say that babies can hear quite a lot while they're still in the womb, and I said, then when, when it's born you can hold it and sing t...
How strange. and I said, well, I guess that's true. And it was somewhat melodious, in other words it wasn't just Uh-huh. Babbly. you know, it was really funny I'll say, that is Well, we'll have to keep up with that then. Right, right. I do think there is probably an influence there, because I noticed that even though p...
But, uh, then I must say they all kind of like a variety of music, which is nice, I like that. Yeah, that's good, yeah, variety is good. Yeah. Well, I guess that covers it. It was real good talking to you. Well, it was nice talking to you, and good luck with the baby. Well, thanks, bye. Bye-bye. Okay Charles, uh, gun c...
Well, this should be very interesting, because I'm against it. I don't, I don't mind people owning guns, I just think it should be a little, you know, a little, a little more regulated. Well, you know, uh, now here's something that, uh, first occurred to me when they started having all these problems with these automat...
or, or, uh, now what was it they called them? The military version, attack weapons, or something? Yeah, right, uh-huh. Uh, how is that going to affect the, uh, sports weapons? I mean, rifles, that are automatic or semiautomatic? Uh-huh. Yep. I really don't have any problem, Jack, with, you know, uh, people using firear...
Yeah, I understand that. And you've got to admit that Congress does kind of look at things that way. Uh-huh, that's true. I, I, like I say, I don't have any problem with people using firearms, you know, for sporting purposes or hunting purposes, I just think it's just may be a little too easy you know, to acquire one. ...
and if it comes up negative, okay, fine, and you get your your gun right then and there. I see. Uh, but they are the only state that does it. Hm, that's interesting. And, uh, according to Virginia, it didn't cost all that much. Uh-huh. and frankly, I, I don't understand why a state doesn't have those records available ...
Yeah, right. Uh-huh. I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult to do. Well, Virginia is not a particularly rich state, and they managed to squeak out a few bucks to do it. Yep, right. And, uh, it's, uh, uh, one-hundred percent successful. Hm, that's interesting. Yeah, I just heard about this last week. Uh-huh. Uh, they w...
I agree. And they don't need that seven-day waiting period. Uh-huh. Because the whole idea of that waiting period was, so that, uh, it, uh, the police could check up on you. Yep. Well, you know what's going to happen there, those files are going to back up on somebody's desk, just some of that typical bureaucratic work...
Uh, Uh, we, but we both, Yeah, I'm not totally rigid on the subject, I just think there should be, you know, shouldn't be quite so easy to do. well, there should be some way of checking, Uh-huh. now here in, in Texas, uh, all you need is a driver's license. Right. Uh-huh. And, uh, even felons can still get a driver's l...
I won't They're liable to tear up my membership. Okay, I promise You say you retired a year ago? Yes, I did, uh-huh. I'm looking forward to it in about a, just, just over a year, myself. Yeah, I really enjoy it. Uh, I stay pretty busy. Uh-huh. I do quite a, not quite a lot, I do some, uh, volunteer work here in Plano. ...
and I have been living in it ever since, That's, uh, and I'm looking forward to just traveling. Sure, I can understand that. I have four sons scattered all over the country, and a few grandchildren. Uh-huh. Yep. And I'm looking forward to just traveling around visiting them. That'd be neat. Sure would. Well Charles, go...
Bye. Hello. Hello I was, I was thinking about our topic for the night Um, immigration problems. We have immigration problems and what do, do you think about it? Well, I think it's a very, very complicated, Huh. and I sort of, I see perspectives on all sides. Um, and I've have no hope for solutions. But, uh, I do keep m...
Well, we've got a lot too. I'm in Texas. Uh-huh, yeah. In Garland, right outside of Dallas. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, we're getting a large oh, gosh, I don't know, I think there's like twenty-six different languages now, that are spoken in I, the I S D. Dallas Innercity School District. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Cambodians, uh, Asians...
to child in No, I'm busy right now, Steven. Steven wants me to do popcorn right now. Huh. to Okay. And I don't know what the solution is. I, I don't either. It's a really delicate, uh, moral, issue. Because, if you have, well, I guess the one thing I do see that is, is that needs to be a solution is, that if you do let...
Many of them had been promised by the C I A, during the war over there, that because they co-operated with the C I A, and they helped the C I A out, that when they came here, the C I A would help establish them in America, and the C I A, of course, isn't doing that. Um. And, uh, so they come here and they don't know wh...
it's, I, I couldn't really conceptualize how hard it was to understand that until I, until I met with them. And I realized that, they, some of the information that I just, you know, don't even realize and know is information, they don't have. And I never thought, well, I guess that is something you need to know, you kn...
I mean they're nomadic farmers, you know, they're people who farm on the hillside and then leave the hillside to another hillside and farm on that hillside. Uh-huh. These are people who've never seen flat ground before and people who've never seen property rights before. You know, these people who've never seen any mac...
I worked with them, not to help them, but for my own purposes. I'm, I'm a linguist and I was, uh, doing a language, trying to learn their language, a little bit. And I actually, um, I mean, helped them them in the sense that they received money for working with me. But I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't a social worker or an...
I mean, it's like people don't know, what they say, Yeah. It's, it's not, they're not withholding information, it's not step for step. they just don't have that information. Yeah They, they haven't the foggiest idea. But anyway, I enjoy it. They, they, the kids I've worked with so far have been Spanish speaking. Yes. A...
like, you know, they just change the pronunciation a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, I love it. I love the culture, uh, the way that they, uh, they respect education and their teachers their parents, so much more than, than my children do. You know, Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. and I like it. And what I've been ...
uh-huh. And I think that would be wonderful too. Yeah, it would be a good experience, and you'd be helping people, I'm sure. Very much. And and I mean, not to put, not to trivialize the problems of any immigrant group but I do know the Asian groups are having a lot of trouble. I mean, and part of the problem is that, a...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. And he spends, well, right now, he's down to like once a week, but he was going over there several times a week to be with the family, and help them with the language. Uh-huh. And he thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, yeah. I, I think it's a wonderful thing to do. And there's a lot, there's a lot more, I guess...
but, their training isn't what we need in this country. Uh-huh. Yes. And because they're so deficient in English, they haven't been able to get jobs. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So they'll have to go back and get a degree here. You know, almost start all over. Yes, yes, I've known people with effectively worthless degrees in this...
Well, It's been good talking with you. Well, thank you. Uh, okay. Have a good night. Okay, it does sound like you have some children to take care of Okay. Yes, I do Uh, Okay, bye-bye. Okay, Bye. I just pressed my, uh. We're supposed to talk about recent political developments. I got one that's interesting, not too, not...
because Schwartzkopf, or the other generals, who I admire, how everyone wants to make, get them in politics. I think that's kind of an interesting recent thing, that I could think of recently that, uh, Uh-huh. I was wondering what you thought about that making the general, uh, getting a general into politics. Yeah. The...
And, uh, you know, they talk about the Army and because of the war and why did we win, and all that, and they talked about how the training was so important. And that's so important in industry, so, you know, they're liable to be right. That generals, generals in the service, and Schwartzkopf, uh, you know, might make ...
But he wasn't the one that decided Iraq needed to get out of Kuwait. No, that's true, that's true. Uh-huh. Uh, you, you pick one. I just thought of that one when, when they brought up about politics. That was, uh, pretty easy Yeah. you don't have to pick Democratic or Republican, you can pick anything you want, go ahea...
Yeah. That may be our only answer, but I don't really like it. I don't like the fact that the President is limited in the number of terms he can serve. Oh, you know, you're not. I think if the President, be him Republican or Democrat, I think if the President can prove that he's popular, you know, that he can do the jo...
I think the same thing should happen for Congress. I, I'd you know, that would be my answer of an easy way to get these guys out of there for twenty years. Yeah, well. My God, it's ridiculous, you know. That's, that's the easy way. I think the harder way out would be to make the guys that are in there and the guys who ...
Yeah, yeah. You know, like, you know, the, the recent election about how the Dallas City Council should be made up, that election last December. Are you in Dallas? Yeah, I'm in Dallas city limit. Boy, I, I, I live in Arlington. I am so happy not to be part of Dallas when I see those folks there. Yeah. It's an ugly mess...
Well, what get's me is this thing, it went down to defeat last December by how many votes, by just a few hundred votes. Uh-huh And if it, if it had passed, if these people had gotten out the vote, it would have passed and there'd be no more argument. But they're still fighting about it because of the way the election w...
Yeah, it's pretty sad. Yeah, it is. Uh, hopefully people will get more involved. My, my position is people who don't vote don't have any right to complain about the way the government's going. Oh, yeah, but those are the ones that are complaining, I, I think, a lot. I see it here at T I. The guys that don't take any in...
What are the issues? I, I'm a Democrat, I want to just say that I'm so sad that there isn't a strong Democrat. I don't even know, I could go out and debate George Bush better than I see any Democrat doing it. Uh-huh. You know, I mean, at least I'd like to see because I like competition, you know. Yeah. I think rolling ...
But, I don't know whether they're recent events. I guess they on this, uh, speech thing, they want us to use a variety of words. Right. How many times have you called, by the way? Actually, I haven't made any calls, but I received about a dozen. Oh, really, I, I, I, I think, yeah, I have to make these, but I get distra...
but I am amazed by, people say they got thirty. Well, I wonder why you need thirty renditions of the persons voice, but I'm not in voice synthesis. But I'd sure like to see a summary of it. We'll get to politics, I'm sorry Well, I think we've used up as much time as we're supposed to anyway. Yeah, right. We're supposed...
and I go visit a lot and their real estate up there is, I mean ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Oh. An apartment here, like I live in an apartment and my apartment is three fifteen a month and it's just the one, it's a one bedroom. And how big is it? Which is still kind of expensive but I prefer to live in, uh, in a...
we've got, I have ceiling fan, Wow. I guess that's something. Yeah. Which one is it? It's Wood, uh, listen to me I can't even think of the name of my own apartment. Woodhollow, Where is right next to Village Green, it's on, Oh, okay, okay. yeah, kind of far north Waco. Yeah, I, I used to live in Waco so, Oh, okay, yeah...
far north, like on Lake Shore where all those apartments are, Yeah, yes, yeah. it's right up there, so. Yeah, uh, we live in a house here, Uh-huh. and, uh, it's a three bedroom two bath, Uh-huh. and, uh, I, it's, it, I don't know I got two numbers today, actually we were talking about mortgage insurance today with my a...
Uh-huh. but they didn't use it right, you know. Right, uh-huh. It was a bunch of empty, you know, hallway and stuff that that could have been used as yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, really. So we've used every bit of it and our house, um, we bought it for sixty-four, Um. and, uh, the neighbors house next door to us sold for se...
yeah. My father used to live in Dallas, uh, now, he, he went back to New Jersey, we're originally from the East. But he, Oh really, my husband's from New Jersey oh, really, he, uh, well actually right now he lives in Rhode Island, he lived in New Jersey for a while, now he's in Rhode Island. And, uh, he used to like to...
that's what we were looking for the first thing. uh, yeah, fire, a fireplace, I saw this awesome house the other weekend, it was a great big family room and it was circular and the other side was the patio and the backyard, and it had a built in, uh, grill and every, Wow. I mean, it was, it was just, an the ultimate pa...
I like a lot of closet space, I don't like because, I don't like to have a lot of things out, you know, just all over the place, Yeah, yeah. I like to have them kind of tucked away. And, uh, so that's, that's what we went for first and, and it, you know, we, we don't, we just have a big living room an, and a dining roo...
uh, he had the kitchen, kind of a kitchen and a very long family room, Yeah. it's just kind of one room and what he did, he put, uh, a bar right in the center, and put some, uh, a glass rack down, so you had like wine glasses hanging from the ceiling and then the bar Oh. and it just kind of, it kind of separated it. I...
And, uh, we really liked it, of course, when you have to mow it You know in, uh, middle of August, it's, it's kind of, a little hot, Oh really. A little hot. yeah. Try to do it early in the mornings. But, uh, it's, it's nice and that was, you know, a big selling point too, and I think another thing that was really ni...
they do throw those up. And, uh. Are you all planning to move anytime, are you looking for a house, or not. No, no, not at all, Uh-huh. in fact, uh, we, we talked about that just a little bit, you know, Uh-huh. we were joking around about, uh, winning a sweepstakes, and what would we do with the money Uh-huh. and Stev...
uh-huh. But when we found it, it was, we knew it. You knew that was it. Yeah. Uh-huh, I'll probably, I'll probably move, but I'll probably move to another apartment or something because I'm, I'm, I'm really, uh, what's the word, I move a lot anyway, because the job I have I only work, Yeah. like here, I'll be here for...
so I won't be here very long, Right. so I'm not even looking to buy anything as permanent as house, you know, Right. so I'm staying in an apartment and I'm not married or anything, so. It's no biggie. Um. Yeah, and that's, and that's one thing is once you, you know, you get into a house it's like, you get more stuff, U...
like I'm amazed at how much stuff I've accumulated in my apartment, because, up to this point I was in school so I'd go home every summer Yeah. and I could take all my stuff home, because I didn't have a bed or a couch or any, any of that, Yeah. but now I could not move back home. And I just realized this, you know, t...
Oh my goodness, yeah. I mean it, it's just, and, and especially around Lake Shore area, that area's picked up quite a bit since we were there, and, uh. Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh. There, there are tons of apartments down here, I mean, and it, Yeah, because I, I had lived in the, gosh, I'm not sure what they're called now but...
there were Lake Shore, Um. there's a, I don't know what they look like now. And it's a nursing there was a nursing home or something right there. Yeah there was a nursing home and then there's an apartment and then there's another apartment. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And we lived in those, those third ones and they we moved in w...
it just, we, Depends on what's going on. It's, uh, yeah, and it's not really, now that it's sixty-five it doesn't take hardly anytime to get there, you know, run to the mall or run to Sam's or, or whatever. Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah. We used to run to you know, Red Lobster but now they've got one in Killeen, so, Uh-huh, al...
uh-huh. Yeah, I really think it is. Um. Just for the fact that the, you know, it's, it seemed like as soon as we bought this house we saw all these houses for sale, you know, Um. and I think now a lot of them are selling and a lot of sellers are getting close to what they want instead of, you know, just having to give...
Yeah, I, I saw, I see that a lot too, there. Yeah. And it's nice too. Uh-huh. I liked living there. Nice and quiet, so. I don't think I could live here much longer but I'll deal with it. Well, Well it , I guess we chewed up the house market, and apartment market for a while. Yeah. Really, okay well it was very nice ta...
bye, bye. Bye, bye. Well, what, what kind of car, did you just buy a car or are you in the market to buy a car or, Actually, I'm real close to being in the market to buy a car. Oh. I've got, uh, a couple older cars, they're both over ten years old Uh-huh. and, uh, they've served me well, but I kind of would like to get...
I, I seem to remember when I was young that was a problem Well, uh, I've kind of been leaning towards a Caravan. Uh-huh. Uh, now I know that, that, uh, they've gotten quite pricey in the last couple of years, but, uh, I like the Dodge products and, uh, been, uh, couple times I've had a opportunity to rent one Uh-huh. u...
Yeah, if you want, Is that, is that the Dodge Caravan, that does that Yes. or, Yeah it, uh, the Dodge Caravans will do that. Uh, you can take the, uh, uh, usually there's a, uh, a double seat behind the, uh, front buckets. Uh-huh. And then if you get the, and then there's a three seat that goes or three person seat tha...
About the only thing you can't do is take that three person across seat, and move it forward. Uh-huh. Well, the one that, I can't remember one it is, if it's the, it it's the Toyota or, or one of the other ones. I don't know if it's one of the Americans or the import ones where, uh, they actually have like, uh, some bu...
Uh, that's kind of, uh, as far, as far as the interior, it's got the luxury interior, but it doesn't really have the luxury price tag that a lot of the other cars have, which is one of the things that we were looking at. You know, finding something that's, that's fairly affordable, but, yet has all the nice luxury item...
Yeah. And dropping the prime is probably one of the things. I just bought a new house so I got a, a, uh, nine and a half percent interest rate. Uh-huh. I'm not sure I could do much better today. But, uh, that is also effecting buying a new car Yeah. I can imagine. You got to kind of work, work that into your budget. We...
You're going to have twins have them on the bicentennial, is our motto. July fourth seventy-six So, uh, uh, I've still got another full year and three months before they're going to be behind the wheel, of a car. Uh-huh. So America's safe for another fifteen and, uh, after that, now I may keep the, uh, one or both of t...
and the door opened and the dummy actually fell out of the car and the car rolled out on top of him. Jeez. So they're saying they're not as safe as, they give the appearance of being safe, but they're really not as safe as they, as they, uh, appear to be. So, uh, I'm kind of concerned about that as far as, you know, th...
but probably fifty percent of the people that have those probably don't wear the lap portion of it. I know my brother doesn't and he has one in his car. Make sure you smack him around then So, I mean, it, it kind of gives you a false sense of security. You think, oh, I've got one portion of my seat belt on, uh, but if ...
Yeah. and, you usually notice, uh, a lot of problems at the beginning and then things kind of iron out, to where, there's fewer problems. Yeah. Yeah. And you get an idea on how well the, the next car's going to be. Now as long as they aren't changing the model, you know, like when the, uh, Pontiac Grand Prix went from ...
Didn't even remotely resemble the old car. Uh-huh. Yeah, I remember when that happened. So unless they're really changing the model, uh, yeah, chances are that it's probably going to have the, the fewer mistakes than it had the year before. Yeah. Well, everybody that I've talked to who's ever had a Honda loves them. Uh...