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and she'd gotten all new underwear, and I was like, Laura. How did you get all this stuff? imitates a woman's "Well, I just got paid." And, and I was like, oh. Had some money in her pocket, yeah. It was there. It was burning. It had to be spent. You know, and I'm like and she said everything was on sale. Oh, oh, that'...
Yeah. You don't notice it. I think that's probably a really good idea. You know, you don't even think about it if it's gone. Huh-uh. Yeah, so, uh, until you really need it and then you realize, you've got a couple of thousand dollars built up someplace else. Yeah. Yeah, see I was, when I had, when I was living alone an...
But a for savings , I'll have to look into that. Yeah. that's, that's been our godsend, you know. Huh-uh. We've had some sort of major emergencies come up, you know, where, we also own our own house, Huh-uh. um, we had an ice storm up here, recently, where it was I mean, it was horrible. Yeah. I mean, half the city ow...
Plus, we went with a friend, and they said you know, and then the whole ice storm cost us quite a bit of money, even though insurance picked up some of it, still, not all of it. Yeah. They don't get, you know, Huh-uh. and that, plus and then we had a car expense like that same week. One of the cars died, you know. All...
Oh. All right, what type of things would you fix if you're having company come over? Well, I have a really great one that I make in the summertime because it's cool and it's, uh, it's just really pretty easy. It's pretty much dumping things in and stirring. Uh-huh. And I like that. Uh, the only thing you have to do is ...
I, I don't have to do that. And, um, and it really, and you mix it all up with there's a little dressing that goes in it that you have to stir up, but it's so simple and it tastes really good because it's cool in the summertime. Oh, yeah. You serve it cold? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, it has to sit in the...
Exactly. like, uh, for Memorial Day we had some friends over and we just bought a brisket and marinated it overnight in one of those like Adolph's meat marinate, and put it on the smoker and cooked it. Uh-huh. Oh, that sounds good. And it was real good. You can buy a fairly cheap piece of meat that way and then people ...
I do spaghetti a lot. Yeah, it seems like most people like spaghetti. Yeah, I don't like to do that if it's real hot though. Yeah. Because, um, I don't know, I have a real thing about being hot in the, in the summertime. Uh-huh. I guess. Well I think when you heat your kitchen up it really makes a big difference, in yo...
It's usually friends from church and stuff, Yeah. and it's usually kind of like, you want to come over, and they say well what can we bring. Yeah. And so it's real easy because you just make one or two things and everybody else brings something. That's exactly like us, from our church, we just do it, yeah. Oh yeah, yea...
and, uh, she like does her own bread and does her own stuff and so when she, um, does food, she really goes all out and I don't know how she can do it and be calm Yeah I guess, Do you work? No, I don't. Do you stay home with kids? Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah. I, I've been working, we're going to have a baby this summer, and I'm...
so. Yeah. Well I usually start about six and, an, and cook and then eat at seven. I mean, cook at five and eat at six, rather. Yeah. Eat at six, yeah. Yeah, and, uh, my family and I, we're a sit down together family. Oh, that's good. Uh, yeah, I don't like the run in and out part. Yeah. And I like to be able to sit dow...
It keeps the family in touch with what's going on with each other. Yeah. I think, Right now we eat in front of the T V but since it's just the two of us, it's Yeah, yeah Well that happens to us sometimes too. Yeah. But, uh, sometimes if something, uh, is on that they want to watch I leave it on, but we eat in the kitch...
And we make real simple things, you know, those, oh, I I don't know if you've ever made them, maybe not since you don't have kids yet, but those Jell-O, uh, gelatin things you can pick up with your fingers, I can't think of what they call it. Oh, I've seen those in the magazines. Yeah, they're so simple. Uh-huh. And th...
we like that. Yeah. That's good that, that's a good way to get kids to eat vegetables too. Yeah. My son's getting to be a, a real good cook so, uh, Oh, neat. sometimes he fixes me breakfast Oh, wow, that's great Yeah, I like it, I like it a lot. How old is he? He's eleven. Eleven, wow, that's good. Uh-huh. Yeah, so Do ...
or, Uh, not every morning, uh, mostly during the summer it's hit and miss and, we usually have like, uh, cold cereal or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, during the during wintertime when they're in school, um, then I try to vary it so that we only eat that like a twice a, twice a week or something and then have lik...
but they don't like that. Oh, do they get rubbery, or, Um. I've never tried it. It it depends. If you let them cook too long then they'll turn a little bit gray. Uh-huh. You can tell if they've gone to long because they'll turn a little bit gray and they will be a little harder, and I don't like that. Yeah. So you have...
an, and that turns out okay. Yeah. And it's funny 'cause if I turn them out on to a on to like a plate, for them to take what they want, they don't know I've ever done it in a microwave. Uh-huh. It's really funny, it's very deceiving, you know, 'cause if they see it with their eyes they go, uh, I don't like want that, ...
Trying to find a jury so you can get a jury as far as, uh, they may say they're not biased, Yeah. but deep down they are against this person or whatever, so, uh, I don't think it's such a bad idea to think about. So, Right, that it, that it, I, a judge would be more consistent from one case to the next and not not and,...
I was trying to remember back. It seems to me that, that, you know, when I studied civics in school or stuff, that this, the juries being involved in the sentencing wasn't, wasn't so much. Uh-huh. And I'm, I'm trying to figure out whether that's, I'm remembering wrong or whether that's a by state. I didn't think they w...
Uh, in terms of doing away with the, with the unanimous jury, I guess, I guess I, uh, would be a little more leery of that kind of a change in, in the trial system. That, that's just a, such a tradition that it's a, that it's got to be a unanimous jury that, uh, I don't know where you'd, where you'd draw the line anywh...
whatever. Yeah. Uh, it's the idea that person might initially have this thought, well, jeez this person's guilty no matter what. I'm not going to listen to the facts or and, and con their way into, uh, getting past the lawyers and getting through that. Yeah. But, uh, also there's aspect of cost and I, I'm not quite sur...
But, I'm not sure that that's, that that's necessarily required. Uh, you know, by law that it has to be paid. Paid, right. Uh, I suspect that's a, that's a benefit of a bigger company. But, but there are certainly some, Some that, some that wouldn't, uh, Uh-huh. Some that may decide not to. yeah, Well, I don't know if ...
Uh, State of Minnesota. Uh-huh. So there's the potential that perhaps, you know, the U S budget might want to take a look at it's, uh, federal employees or, and take a look at saying, well, let's freeze wages. I mean everybody's doing it so it isn't like, uh, private business has had to do it Uh-huh. so it might have t...
sure. So, I mean there was, um, people at Stanford who were soaking the government, you know, using millions of dollars of research money to, uh, for the President to buy beach homes or whatever it was. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I think that, that maybe more widespread than well, than we'd like to have think. Than we think. ...
The rest of them taking these vacations and using the taxpayers' money for that. Right. And it's a real big crunch, uh Uh-huh. of course, when they get caught then they're, you know, they're guilty of course, but, uh, during that time I'm sure there's hundreds of, uh, thousands of people that are, uh, spending money th...
but after that that's, you know, uh they didn't want to do it anymore. Right. Uh-huh. So, a lot of things that are saying that they're no longer going to be doing for next wars that are coming up that they did for this one in getting rid of a lot of things. So I don't know. Uh-huh. Right. Okay, well, it was good talkin...
I have children Oh, you have children I have little children. Both of my kids are under two so right now we don't have pets, but we've had lots of them in the past. Have you? Uh-huh. Uh, what have you had? Well, we had a dog before we moved here. Uh, and we couldn't bring her with us. We came from Colorado, and we've h...
and before that we had all Dachshunds, and I think my husband wants another Dachshund, and we're trying to debate because our children are grown and, and, uh, I don't know whether we really want to be tied down to a you know, another dog. And we do have a very loving cat that's, you know, kind of our baby. Uh-huh. And,...
Oh, yes, yes. Because, uh, I did. That experience was awful Yes, I have never wanted to, that's why we've never gotten a female, you know, in anything. Uh-huh. And, uh, uh, and our male cats, you know, we had, uh, neutered right away, to baby very what you doing ? and, of course, it, he doesn't know it. He's still out ...
Which I think is a good thing. It just breaks my heart to see these poor little old dogs wandering the streets looking starved and, you know. Uh-huh. It, uh, plus, uh, you know the safety factor and stuff. Well, we enjoy having pets. We, uh, you know, I think they're a lot of company, and, and when my mother lived with...
but this one you know, he comes up and he crawls up next to my husband now, you know. He's, you know, before the dog died, we have a queen size bed and the dog would sleep on my side, and the cat would sleep on my husband's side, you know And when everybody turned we all four of us turned in a row My husband that's one...
uh-huh. I think that's one of the reasons our, because as I said our, our Schnauzer was old. And so he was becoming incontinent. And so then I would just have messes in the house, and I think that's one of the things that both of us are not wanting to start over with, you know. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. And, uh, and it was new...
Oh and so then she crawls on the carpet and, oh, the smell I mean it's just really awful Uh-huh. and that's, that's one real drawback, but you know I guess you'll do just about anything for your pet if you love them enough Yes, you will. You will. You know, we were trying to decide to, you know, about putting him to sl...
Brian in Plano, Texas. How are you doing today? Hi, fine, I'm Nancy. How are you? Great, Nancy. I'm in Plano also You're in Plano also, huh? Yes, we're not too long distance today. Well, good to hear. I was just talking to someone the other day from Pennsylvania. Oh, that was good. Utah, I've had a couple of, but that ...
Learned about their basketball team Which one? Uh, Jazz. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Utah Jazz. Yeah. Yeah, they're, they're pretty good. They've got some good good, some good, uh, good players out there. Yeah. Well, you ready for New Year's Eve? I am. Good. Should we, uh, start this so we can, Okay. What was your name again? ...
and I'm Brian. Right. Just a moment Okay Nancy, then I guess the, today's subject is benefits in the job other than salary. Right. What, uh what do you feel are important to you or other people as, as crucial benefits? Uh-huh. Well, I'm a little different than other people because I don't have benefits with my job. Uh-...
Uh-huh. Oh. Yeah, it's cheaper for me to buy insurance by the month than to work staff someplace. Yes. And then I have my freedom. I can work seven days in a row and take a week off or whatever I want to do. Well, that, that's an excellent, so actually that is a benefit, uh, Well, it is to me. Most people prefer the se...
I think through our health insurance that I can get better rates as a, through a group plan as opposed to going out and getting health insurance on an individual basis because I had to do that at one time when I wasn't employed with a large corporation Right. and that got to be somewhat expensive, so I I think one of t...
Right. Could you change that as you felt like it or did you have to do it the same every week? Well, basically, yeah I had to do, that, uh, the same, uh, for about every quarter of the year. I mean uh, because I was in a, in a position of management I had responsibilities over people that, uh, I needed to make my sched...
but that's who I am so, Well, and that's an individual thing. Uh-huh. Yeah, with, uh, with our current, uh, organization, we do have a nice retirement package and also a, a nice thing that, that we have in our corporation is a, uh, is a profit sharing plan where we can, uh, participate in the, the profits of the compan...
Uh-huh. L A LAW is one of them. Uh-huh. Although this year's, it's a little easier to miss than last year. With the new cast and everything. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to follow. Right, and, uh, I like ROSIE O'NEILL. Oh, I've never seen that one. THE TRIALS OF ROSIE O'NEILL with Sharon Gless. Okay, yeah. She, I've seen a, u...
HOME IMPROVEMENT. Oh, we never miss that, or we try not to miss that. It's hysterical, isn't it? Oh, we think it is, so funny. Did you catch the Christmas? Oh, just part of it I thought it was, you know, and it had such a good story, too. Uh-huh. Did you see the end of it? No. Well, you know, the little boy, the little...
I thought that was wonderful. And then, uh, it, it's, it appeared that maybe it probably wasn't the neighbor. And, uh, on Sunday, used to be on Sunday nights, now I can't figure out where they've moved it. On our, uh, public television, they had a show at ten thirty that was a computer show. Uh-huh. And it showed the l...
Uh-huh. It was just a thirty minute show with no commercials. Oh, okay. It's public television, course, doesn't have the commercials during the show so, Yeah, right. And I like the FRUGAL GOURMET. Oh, I do, too Oh, I do, too, but I just seem to, to miss a lot of these programs. I don't know why. I just, if I can catch ...
Well, I watch two, but one's a half-hour and one's an hour and, and they lead into each other. Oh. And that's the BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL and AS THE WORLD TURNS. Oh, okay. And I've watched the, AS THE WORLD TURNS since I was a little girl Yeah, that's been on for years. So it's just, you know, it's, it's, something I've...
and I like the comedies and you know, and I, I do like good movies. Uh-huh. I prescribed, subscribe to H B O. Yeah well, we, So I can get some of the movies. Yeah, that's a good idea. We did have H B O, but it, we just canceled it last week because it seemed like it was so repetitious, you know. It is. It's just, But I...
and you don't get good reception without cable and it doesn't cost that much more to have one of the pay channels, Yeah. Right. so that's primarily why I have it right now. Right. Yeah, yeah. I, I thought when I got my V C R, I'd probably drop it, you know, but that was years, Say you did, uh, starters and bendix sprin...
Uh-huh. And they, uh, well, they quit making those, the quieter jet carburetor and they quit making it. Yeah. They rebuilt it and it never did, never did run right again. Yeah, quad not really easy to get rebuilt just right. Yeah. Uh, and like, what were you replacing the starters and bendix on? Uh, a Maverick and also...
Especially if you need a tune-up. Uh-huh. They kept saying that the that's what Chryslers did, is they wore out starters. Yeah, well, if they start real easy, you know, you just hit the key and it starts up Yeah. and when it's properly tuned up, that starter will last for a long time. Uh-huh. See, they built that start...
it's kind of tough on the bushings. Yeah. Usually what goes is the bushings. Right. You take a little time, replace the bushings, you still got a perfectly good starter. But, uh, most places don't put, don't rebuild them with, with with good enough bushings. Uh-huh. So it's, you know, after you get rebuilt one, you hav...
Yeah, one of the little mini vans? Uh-huh, yeah. Is a, Do you like the way it rides and stuff? Uh, rides or runs? Rides rough? It, yeah, well, yeah, it rides, rides rough, it runs good. Yeah. You know, I kind of, it took me a while to get used to a four cylinder engine. Yeah. You have to kind of wait for it, especially...
Yeah. But, uh, they're starting to change that out in the last couple of years, too. You driven American cars all, Uh, yeah, I've driven one uh, I drove a Volkswagen Beetle for a while, about a month. Uh, in a month I think I put, uh, three oil coolers on it. Uh, every time I turned around I was having trouble with it....
Not much gas mileage, though. I don't know, gas mileage wasn't too bad. It got about seventeen. Oh, wow. Well, till you got crazy with it. You know, you get the four barrel all worked up and suddenly it, it, it drops off fast, but long as you didn't spin the tires too much or, or spend too much time with the secondarie...
When I rebuilt the engine on that, about a hundred and thirty thousand on the car. Yeah. I, uh, pulled that old points distributor out and got, an H E I distributor, electronic distributor put into it. Well, I really enjoy reading the newspaper, we get the daily, uh, DALLAS MORNING NEWS and I try to look at it. If I ge...
and by the time I got home and had time to, to read some, but, but I guess the, the issue is, uh, beside the newspaper, do you take any news magazines? Well, we, I don't take, like TIME, or NEWSWEEK or anything like that, but I do like to watch, uh, C N N. I have several chores and things to do, so it comes on at, like...
and, and we also hit the Garland, GARLAND DAILY NEWS, I guess it's, it comes out sporadically, like, twice a week or Uh-huh. but I think what's interesting is that if you're, that there, uh, that as difficult as it is, or as, as much as they try, they put some bias, I had the chance to hear Tracy Rowlett speak to a gro...
Which was, uh, I, I find that fascinating that, uh, Yeah, I do, too. Do you ever listen to the radio or any, I listen to K R L D, and, uh, uh, K L I F, the news talk radio. Uh-huh. And I actually listen to C N N radio. Do you know it was on radio now? No, I don't. It's on eleven ninety. Um. I really, uh, have gotten ou...
Yeah. but I've got out of the habit of listening to the radio. Well, with, with your, you know, if you're around the home, though and, and, and can watch T V and read the paper, the problem is, is that about twenty minutes of news radio, or thirty minutes is and then they start repeating everything. Uh-huh. And, and so...
I'm not sure that, actually I think channel eight is probably, but I know Dave Fox, he goes to our church so, Um. Well I am, we're fairly new to the area and so we're still shopping for a favorite channel. Well the, Channel eight when they came here thirteen, fourteen years ago, Dave Fox and Tracy Rowlett came together...
I don't recall that they have any female anchors and I like different, I like the anchors to be different kinds of people. I think that adds to the diversity, I think that, uh, I like that. Uh-huh. Uh, there, I know, you know, John Wylie Price, I don't know if you kept up, but he's been protesting, Yes I have and, uh, ...
but I think that, uh, in some cases this should be some real opportunity and, and some diversity, and and this kind of thing Yeah. and I think that, Dallas, it turns out, though from what I understand, has quite good, I occasionally go to Saint Louis. Uh-huh. And, uh, there for a few days and watch the news and, and th...
and, It is interesting though, it becomes a little of personality. In fact, the, the guy that was on, the weatherman on channel eight worked for me, oh, long time ago, twenty years or so, even longer than that. Twenty-one, twenty-three years ago or so, twenty-four, anyway long time ago Uh-huh. and, and shortly after I ...
Have you talked, have you been on the conversation when they beeped you at ten minutes? Yeah, I guess it is time to close now, so I can run go help put the kids to bed. Okay, well good talking to you. Yeah. Goodnight. Bye-bye. Are, are you a T I-er? No, no, I work there as a temporary. Oh, really. But, are you at T I? ...
I'm so much for it. I don't really have much to comment about it. There've been some interesting subject that they've called about. How many times have you called, or have you been participating in this? Oh, about ten or eleven calls. Oh, you got ten, well you, you've passed me up. Right. This is about six times. Oh. A...
And I think it was tremendously down. As far as the number of drug users, you mean? Yeah Huh. as far as the number of people they actually found that were drug users. But I think that on when I was at T I of course, we had all the information before they started. Right. And they said that a certain number of people tha...
And we did have a couple of cases where we really, the person said that they hadn't used anything, and their test came back positive, and normally we didn't retest them. But there were a couple of people that we really thought that they were telling the truth and we retested them like the next day, and they came back n...
In other words, there's very few mistakes, and that, of course, has got to be critical. It's got to be, if you have a drug testing program, it's got to be with a very, very good agency. You don't just have some local group do it. It's got to be a highly qualified agency. Right, yeah, not just some doctor's office somew...
or do they fire them right away. Oh, no. They're not fired. They are, they have one chance to then go in a program. You come back positive, you have one chance to go in, and go into, they have a lot of, uh, rehabilitation, both for alcohol and for drug use, and they have, uh, a lot of, uh, they have an agency where you...
It's really an illness, or whatever you want to say that it is. You know, it's a weakness and all, and who, all of us have weaknesses of one kind or another. And I think that those people that have that and however they got into it, I have children, I always worry about the, the classical thing that you see on T V, whe...
I hear a lot of horror stories about things like that. Uh-huh. But most of the time it's they get into the wrong crowd first, and then they start a drug problem. Yeah. It's usually not a one time accidental thing, I don't think. Yeah, I know, I'm glad of that. And I have, knock wood, pretty good luck, or very good luck...
it seems if you watch what kind of crowd that start running around with and kind of keep up with who their friends are that's best way to avoid trouble, from what I can gather. Right. Do you have children? No not yet, we're expecting a baby in July, Oh, great, so we're starting. Fantastic experience. I've got two, as I...
Right. and they're always over in someone else's house. So our, we've been lucky that our house is usually the place where the kids could come, you know. Uh-huh, yeah, I think that's a really good thing to encourage. And then you can keep an eye, you can make judgments and make comments or whatever you want. But at lea...
and then slowly but surely starts to creep up when they start to take lessons, but it's well worth it and everything. Yeah, uh, yeah, I think it'll be neat. Be a, be a great experience really. You still there? Okay, I thought I was cut off there. You know, I don't have much to say about drug testing. No, I can't think ...
They sent us a little booklet, I just got it a week or so ago saying, you know, so many calls will be something a prize and everything. Right. Well that great. Well what kind of cash? I've forgotten what they going to do. Hm. Was it five dollars a call? Yeah, five dollars a call. Well, hope they follow through and ever...
Uh-huh. I mean, I may have screwed in a little screw that looked like it was falling out on the door or something but, uh, I personally haven't done anything. Maybe I've, uh, changed wiper blades or something but I have noticed since, uh, I got married that my husband, he hates to do auto repairs, but he would rather d...
and, so, I guess, uh, he's been pretty good about keeping our cars up, what, uh, what's your experience been like? Well, I, uh, I have a long experience with cars. I, uh, when I was younger, uh, my brother had a Corvette and I bought a Corvette and when you have a Corvette you more or less do all the work and I've done...
And, uh, so, I try to make sure that, uh, by the time fall runs around, because we actually have winters here on the east coast, um, that, uh, I have, you know, the car's in pretty good shape enough to last through the winter Right and, uh, then springtime I usually end up giving them, the, uh, a tune-up and make sure ...
Well, that's exactly the way he feels is that, he really hates to spend the time, it takes a lot of time if he, if he thinks it's going to be two hours, it's four if, you know, whatever, it always takes him twice as long. But then when he's finished he's, he always says, well, now you owe me three hundred dollars And t...
but it doesn't matter, I mean, I've, I've had greasy fingernails for years And it still takes me twice as long as I think it's going to take to do the job, Yeah. so, but, I think the difference is that, uh, when you own the car you take more care in what you're doing, Uh-huh. and you want to make sure that it's done ri...
and, um, and well, I know once when we had a, we usually inspection time we find out there's something wrong with our car but, um, once the muffler needed to be changed and, uh, he had looked at him himself and, but we saw a commercial for like fourteen or twenty dollars or something for a change he said, that's really...
so, that's one, one way he looked at it. Yeah. that's probably, uh, uh, something that, uh, is, is you know, is good for both of them. I know that, uh, my older son I could never get him interested in cars and I couldn't, you know, I just like, you know, you sure you're a boy, I mean, your not interested in cars, Uh-hu...
Yeah, it didn't always work. Well, I felt, um, I feel like I could myself, do some things but, that I have enough responsibility that if I have someone like my father when I was living at home, and my husband, that's willing to do it, I go ahead and let them do it. I don't feel the need to, um, you know, be a feminist ...
Uh-huh. it helps you figure out what's wrong with it, you know, Uh-huh. I've, I've been out with my sister before when, you know, her car died on the highway and I happened to be with her and managed to get her to the other side of the road because it was dark and all, Women? Yeah, the changing roles of women, how role...
I'm here. Oh my goodness, I can't believe I did that. Okay, hold on. That's okay. Okay, um, I. Okay, um, I don't know, are you in your thirties, or, No, I, I'm twenty-three. Oh, okay. Uh-huh. Well then I can tell you that roles have changed. I'm thirty-eight Uh-huh, uh-huh.
and they changed quite a bit. Uh-huh. Um, I, this was my twentieth high school reunion, in Chicago. Uh-huh. And basically, um, the choices, I mean, you know, you probably heard that in the fifties women liked to stay home and all that. Right, uh-huh. That's kind of, um, the opposite of what it was in the sixties and ea...
Um, uh, before that a lot of people that wanted to protest were large groups like, uh, black people, or, you know, just large, large groups of people, but, but the, Right it was more, it was more civil rights oriented, or race oriented rather than gender based, Right, yeah. and I think, I think the women's movement kin...
I think that, uh, you know, you can just look at home life and see, I've been talking to a lot of people about education and things, and, and what, what, what affects the school system Uh-huh. and I think that a big thing that effects it is that the mother is not home anymore, um, like she used to be. Right. She used...
Yes, uh-huh. Um, I'm trying to think of what else. I have a lot of opinions on this except all of a sudden I went blank A lot of the things, um, the demographics do, I mean, there are more, I don't have the numbers in my head right now, but, a lot of the things that brought feminism, I mean there are just more women in...
Speaking of getting married, I was talking to someone yesterday on this, on the project, Uh-huh. and, uh, uh, we were talking about child care and he asked me if I had any kids. He was about forty or fifty years old and I said no, I'm just twenty, He was ancient, yeah. and I said no, I'm just twenty-three, you know, b...
Yeah, and I, it just, you know, I think that I'll probably have children when I'm about thirty, thirty-five, something like, just because, I'm not sure if it's just, if it's just me, or, or women in general that are twenty-three right now, because, um, I'm really into my career. Yeah, when it's time, uh-huh. I'm tryin...
Uh-huh. He was twenty-three when we met an I was at a point where it was like, I didn't date, I mean, I just, I went out to have a good time, Right. but I didn't have to have male companionship. Right, right. Um, and a lot of the, um, friends that I had in school at that point, who had gone back and gone to law school,...
Right. Uh-huh. That's like, oh, I can do that. You know, maybe, I don't need to get married. Right, and I, I, I mean, I don't know how, how old your mom is, she's probably, let's see my mother's in her early sixties, so. She's, she's about forty. Okay, I'm thirty-eight, your mother's I just turned thirty-eight. Um, y...
um, but it's okay, don't ever let age, I mean, I don't Okay. nobody talks about it for women except other women and other men. I, I just turned twenty-three, uh, April twentieth, Uh-huh. and I'm still going, you know, oh my God, I'm getting so old. I just, because me, myself, I just like to move really, really quickly...
Yeah. And so anything, when the age creeps up, where I'm twenty-three and twenty-four, I'm thinking my time is running out. You know, Uh-huh. but I'm actually very, very young. Yeah, you are, because what I was going to say is, what you will find is, my background is in journalism and corporate communications, Uh-huh....
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, so when you're saying quick, um, I think that's probably one thing that your generation coming up after mine, is thinking that, um, they have to do you know, sort of, I call kind of, I call it a chewing syndrome. Uh-huh. Right. They have to eat real fast they have, they have to, rapidity of s...
I know, I'm probably feeling that way because it's, everything's geared towards young. You know Uh-huh. and whether I want to realize it or not, everything on television is young, young, young, young. Oh it is. You can't be a model after thirty, you can't do this after twenty, you know and, everybody that's in the m...
I mean, it's, it's, and so I'm going, I'm so old and I'm, I, I really have to always tell myself, no, you're not, you're very young. No, you're extremely, yeah, it's, it's And, you know, so it's, Well it's like us, we're getting ready to do, if possible, for an adoption and I have friends that say well why would you do...
Um, I mean that's like your mother, look how young she is, compared to where you are out of school and everything. Uh-huh, yeah. Right. It's just, it, but what you find is you don't compare the woman, because you just get into trouble. It's all independent and choices. Uh-huh, yeah, very true. Um, but what I was going...
we couldn't do that then. And my cousins and I go, well why couldn't you Yeah, that's, that's why I say I feel, I feel really lucky right now, because I'm not married and because I don't have children. I'm out of school, I'm twenty-three, I can do anything I want to do, anything. Uh-huh. And so, I mean even some days I...
but it's depressing too. That's how, I mean, What, I'm right now. What do you, what do you that you're, Uh-huh. I'm, I'm a free-lance writer right now. Oh. And then, um, what I'm doing is working at, um, a an electronics company, for their company newspaper, right now on the side, Uh-huh. Oh. and then I'm also, actu...

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