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[2499.34 --> 2503.90] two to figure out a week or two what happens are you being serious with a week or two or you are you is |
[2503.90 --> 2508.64] that a joke oh no no no that's that's not well i was saying a week or two to that one year that |
[2508.64 --> 2513.58] june 1st two-year deadline but uh yeah that's that's definitely a conversation i'm having with |
[2513.58 --> 2517.86] my wife right now is all right you know i you know the one question is do i still want to work |
[2517.86 --> 2523.44] on get up and the answer is yes right like i believe in this i think it's going well um and you |
[2523.44 --> 2527.30] know the second question is all right how do we make that work for you know for the next few years |
[2527.30 --> 2533.16] uh and you know so we're sorting that out we we listed our house on airbnb so i've got a you know |
[2533.16 --> 2538.50] our first visitor is showing up tonight and so but but then i but then i'm like all right but i want |
[2538.50 --> 2543.16] to do pay what you want i don't want to you know if i'm gonna get some money from outside of gidip |
[2543.16 --> 2548.78] i don't want it to you know like i don't want to charge people anymore for stuff that this is i just |
[2548.78 --> 2554.94] wrote uh an exposition of our mission statement which is on the building gidip website there's so many |
[2554.94 --> 2559.30] things to catch you guys up yeah so these are topics we want to hit so don't don't i mean i |
[2559.30 --> 2563.98] want to i wanted to pause us for one second before we go there if you don't mind absolutely um two |
[2563.98 --> 2570.36] years ago when july 12 2012 when you first launched gidip you read a post i believe in gidip and in there |
[2570.36 --> 2575.40] you said you know you said lots of stuff obviously but one of the key things i pulled out to to earmark |
[2575.40 --> 2579.62] for the show is just to kind of just put some truth there and some fact and this is a good time to |
[2579.62 --> 2586.90] mention that is your goal at the time was 2000 a week you're at just under 500 a week and we're |
[2586.90 --> 2591.60] obviously having this conversation so everyone's kind of caught up but you know you know that was a |
[2591.60 --> 2598.82] goal of yours and you're kind of you're you know you're 25 there but by this time next year so when |
[2598.82 --> 2606.10] did i post this july 12 2012 yeah so i didn't hit that july 12 2013 we're coming up on july 2014 |
[2606.10 --> 2616.42] um right so one of the things we've learned is that gidip is a market for caring what i mean by that |
[2616.42 --> 2627.16] is you know i was making whatever at my old job but i had to do my old job you know and so the question |
[2627.16 --> 2634.68] is how much would the internet have to pay you to quit your job and just not do anything like do |
[2634.68 --> 2642.18] whatever you wanted right like is it 50 of what you were making before is it 80 of what you were |
[2642.18 --> 2647.82] making before you know like what's the difference between your salary now and what the rest of us |
[2647.82 --> 2654.48] would need to pay you to just quit your job and do whatever you wanted right be unfettered so for me |
[2654.48 --> 2662.86] that's turned out to be a fairly high percentage you know like about 80 percent um you know i'm making |
[2662.86 --> 2669.32] 20 of what i was making at my old job roughly speaking and i love it like i wouldn't go back |
[2669.32 --> 2676.30] you know so that two thousand dollar figure i put out uh two years ago that was i was actually still |
[2676.30 --> 2681.30] i think i was still employed i think i i finished up at that job at the end of july um so i was still |
[2681.30 --> 2685.42] employed at that old job and that's that was i was driving that number you know but then the question |
[2685.42 --> 2690.26] has become like what's it worth to me you know what's it worth to me to not to have that no strings |
[2690.26 --> 2695.00] attached i could wake up in the morning and work on stuff because i want to work on it and not |
[2695.00 --> 2699.06] because i'm chasing a paycheck because there's there's value in that too i mean let's pause there |
[2699.06 --> 2704.88] for a second because you can make an income and be strapped to a job and be not fruitful for your |
[2704.88 --> 2709.26] family not fruitful for the you know the internet or the rest of the world however you want to pitch |
[2709.26 --> 2716.18] that and but there's some extreme flexibility there's some extreme um freedom in the lifestyle |
[2716.18 --> 2722.08] you've chosen that is separated from money and i think you know from a first world country |
[2722.08 --> 2727.10] standpoint there's many many listeners to the changelog third world countries uh first world |
[2727.10 --> 2731.48] countries with many different hardships that i can't even imagine but i'm in a privileged lifestyle |
[2731.48 --> 2737.76] and this is how it is but they don't always pin back to just money you know our economy in this world |
[2737.76 --> 2744.10] we all interact around money and that's what we sometimes derive value from identity from |
[2744.10 --> 2748.98] and you've chosen a different lifestyle that has some freedom in it that maybe you don't make as |
[2748.98 --> 2753.30] much money which is what the rest of the world thinks is value and we need to make your lifestyle |
[2753.30 --> 2758.46] but you've chosen a different path yeah that's that's true man and that's that's that's what i |
[2758.46 --> 2761.88] mean that's what it's a market for right it's like that's the question get it puts to you is like |
[2761.88 --> 2765.48] what would we have to pay you or the rest of us have to pay you would we have to pay you the |
[2765.48 --> 2769.04] two hundred thousand dollars you're making right now at your you know at your silicon valley |
[2769.04 --> 2774.80] you know job or you know or could we pay you fifty thousand and you'd you know you'd be happy and |
[2774.80 --> 2781.00] and productive whatever yeah it's so yeah that's that that's how that's evolved so i'm no longer |
[2781.00 --> 2785.88] expecting two thousand dollars a week from get it well i just the reason why i wanted to put up there |
[2785.88 --> 2792.62] is because you're a dreamer right and that that was that was probably a goal but it was a wish |
[2792.62 --> 2797.62] and and now we're at some reality and you're making some serious choices for your family as |
[2797.62 --> 2801.86] well as for get up so i just wanted to absolutely put that uh that out there to see what your thoughts |
[2801.86 --> 2808.00] are on you know to reflect back on what your wishes and dreams were originally yeah yeah absolutely i |
[2808.00 --> 2812.36] mean so you know so we're asking those questions right now we're trying to figure out you know it's |
[2812.36 --> 2815.98] it's hard to lower expenses from where we're at right now you know so we're trying to figure out how |
[2815.98 --> 2822.38] to up the income um you know so we my wife's been working uh the past couple couple months uh |
[2822.38 --> 2828.86] you know just doing stuff for a friend nothing long term but maybe you know maybe maybe she needs |
[2828.86 --> 2833.62] to get a job in the fall when the kids go back to school you know our kids are starting to get older |
[2833.62 --> 2839.36] i mean this is all this is all this is all the personal stuff that uh i don't usually talk about |
[2839.36 --> 2845.68] on twitter constantly but you know i'm happy to to discuss it um you know like i said we're we |
[2845.68 --> 2849.78] we're renting out rooms on airbnb okay so the thing i wanted to say about that is that |
[2849.78 --> 2855.52] i have the rooms listed at the airbnb minimum and i'm saying pay what you want right so like |
[2855.52 --> 2866.32] i'm still i'm looking for ways another thing that gidip has gotten into or as has evolved into |
[2866.32 --> 2872.76] is this idea of the pay what you want model right humble bundle is really good at it um you know |
[2872.76 --> 2878.82] they've kind of proven that it can work uh and there's definitely you know there's there's people |
[2878.82 --> 2883.10] studying it right like this is a this is a thing panera has tried opening a few pay what you want |
[2883.10 --> 2887.12] stores so they're experimenting with it so i think pay what you want is a real thing that's going to |
[2887.12 --> 2895.16] happen um you know gidip with individuals is very much patronage right so i kind of think of gidip |
[2895.16 --> 2901.92] as being segmented into individuals and then companies groups uh you know organizations whatever like |
[2901.92 --> 2907.68] that's two two segments so for individuals it's patronage you know i love you i love what you're |
[2907.68 --> 2911.20] doing take this money and run with it you don't need you know you don't need to know it's from me |
[2911.20 --> 2919.02] it's anonymous go um but then you've got like the gidip team or you know these hackerspaces like sudo room |
[2919.02 --> 2925.06] that are using it now or model model view culture shanley's uh publication you know there there's these |
[2925.06 --> 2930.42] teams there's these aggregations that are using gidip and they're i don't know i think we're gonna end up |
[2930.42 --> 2936.12] seeing that a that evolves uh you know it evolves into something a little different than the patronage |
[2936.12 --> 2942.72] model is with individuals you know um even the open company org you know the open company initiative |
[2942.72 --> 2947.80] you know if we want to fund that on gidip well it'd be nice to know who the people are that are giving |
[2947.80 --> 2951.08] money to the open company initiative you know because then you can call them your members right |
[2951.08 --> 2956.08] um so we might need to relax some of those constraints around you know who can see who's giving |
[2956.08 --> 2962.42] what to whom um but then also i think we want to find ways to use gidip to support a pay what you |
[2962.42 --> 2972.02] want model shields shields io the little read me badges um i ended up uh acquiring did we talk did |
[2972.02 --> 2976.86] this happen last time no but i acquired the shields yeah you acquired i was wondering it was her i didn't |
[2976.86 --> 2981.38] pay attention to the finer details but i know that you had some kind of batch this goes back to what |
[2981.38 --> 2985.38] you said a little bit earlier in the show where you kind of had some maybe some to some degree |
[2985.38 --> 2989.70] private conversations and then you had an open call about the merge and i think you even did like |
[2989.70 --> 2999.10] a fist bump virtually right yes yes yes yeah olivia and i we met at waza uh last year at heroku's |
[2999.10 --> 3005.70] developer conference uh at the beginning of 2013 and didn't really you know i found out that he was |
[3005.70 --> 3010.78] working on shield but we didn't really have any conversation about it but then people wanted it for |
[3010.78 --> 3016.90] gidip you know people wanted a little gidip badge to put on their readmes um you know and shields |
[3016.90 --> 3022.86] shields at that point was just some photoshop files and a design spec uh there was nothing dynamic there |
[3022.86 --> 3029.28] was no server uh server implementation no server api no web api forward or anything and get it for our |
[3029.28 --> 3033.82] implementation we needed something dynamic because we don't have just three states of badges you know |
[3033.82 --> 3038.60] pass fail build pass fail kind of thing we wanted it to be more complex we wanted it to be dynamic so i |
[3038.60 --> 3044.46] ended up getting involved in writing an implementation of that uh and then finding out i don't know it was |
[3044.46 --> 3051.10] it was interesting because it was an exercise in cat herding you know what's what's an easier project |
[3051.10 --> 3057.50] what's an easier weekend project than hacking together an api server for readme badges you know i mean |
[3057.50 --> 3062.72] it's like you know it's something that you know any of us could do in an afternoon pretty much and so |
[3062.72 --> 3068.64] a lot of us did and so we ended up with all these different uh implementations cropping up |
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