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so that's,
and so he just graduated this past year.
Oh.
So you just barely moved away?
Uh-huh
Yeah, Well, we really miss Utah
Do you like it out there?
We miss the mountains.
You do?
Yeah.
Because it's, like, really flat here
Well, not flat, but hilly.
But no big mountains or anything.
Uh-huh.
So you just moved away a ... |
It was like forty-five
Oh, warm
So, what's the temperature up today over there?
Oh, man,
it's got to be like, it's probably fifty, fifty-five, maybe.
Oh, really?
Maybe not that warm.
Probably about, uh,
yeah.
It's not, it's not that cold, really.
And whenever I remembered the weather reports in Utah, I never really rem... |
That makes a big difference. Huh.
So, oh, I,
So, did you used to ski when you were out here?
What's that?
Did you used to ski when you were in Utah?
Oh, I've only, I've only skied in Utah once.
Oh, really?
I only skied once my whole life
But, do you do a lot of skiing there?
Uh, not tons,
but I like to when I get a cha... |
Oh.
Yep.
At U of U,
or,
No,
at B Y U.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh.
So, but, I'll be here a long time at this rate.
What's your major?
Uh, it was nursing,
but I'm in the process of changing it right now.
Uh-huh,
oh.
Because it's really, really competitive at B Y U.
Yeah.
You have to have like a three seven to get in
so, It's r... |
I'm going to look into some other fields.
I'd like,
all the science classes and that, I'm just not really enjoying too much
so I think I better get into something that I can enjoy the process of going to school
Uh-huh.
so,
Yeah,
that's, that's a good idea.
Did you graduate in a certain field
or,
Uh, education.
I got a ... |
Here name is Lori, Bird.
Maybe not
I think she graduated around then, too, though, eighty-seven probably,
but, she got her
Yeah,
well, I can't,
there are so many girls in all my classes,
I can't remember how many people.
Yeah,
yeah.
Because they, since, uh, stopped that program. I mean, where you can where you can get ... |
Right.
Increases each year, doesn't it?
I'm sorry?
It increases each year I think.
It sure does.
Yeah,
there is a lot more women in the work place nowadays.
Well, and I think women have kind of had, uh, in the past the real subservient role.
Role?
Right.
And, uh,
That's changing
Well, we do to some degree
Right.
but, u... |
Uh-huh.
Because there is just, impossible to keep up on everything else.
Yeah,
yeah.
Have more of an active role in taking care of children, more of an active role in taking care of the home.
Well, you know, they've been talking about
and I don't know, uh, what the status is on it,
but, you know, women get maternity le... |
and that was the reason
because they thought was showing prejisim to women and not to men
but, So, uh,
Huh, that's interesting.
That's a bummer, though
Yeah
it is.
I mean, You got to take the time off
You have to save all of your, uh, vacation time.
You do.
You have to save all your vacation time
and that's usually how... |
I'm sorry?
Maybe top level.
Right,
right,
upper management,
more women in upper management
and probably, uh, we'll see more females in political roles.
More governors and, I think, you know, roles like that.
That would be kind of nice
Well, we've got, in Texas, we have a female governor.
That's right,
that's right.
And... |
and,
Right, you know,
I mean, and that's fine with me
I think,
but sometimes,
I mean I'm not a women's libber by any means,
but I do,
Right.
there are issues that, you know, as far as, like, equal pay for men and women and that kind of stuff, I totally am for.
Right.
But, I don't get into the, uh, the real women libbe... |
but, uh one of the big changes, uh, they're doing in Salt Lake is, uh,
Right.
and they're probably,
I'm sure, in Dallas since you're big places, a lot more women are, uh, working right out of their home with their P C's or with their lap computers or whatever.
Yeah,
I, I've heard of that.
Uh, I haven't really talked to... |
By the phone and all that.
so, uh, it would be kind of exciting in some ways to, to see a little bit more of that
and some ways, it might be kind of scary.
Right.
Think anybody could do it,
but, Anyway,
Right.
Yeah,
I wouldn't mind just calling up the grocery store and giving them my order and going an hour later and p... |
Plano, Texas. No *nn
Oh.
I talked to someone that was only a couple of thousand in her town, I think.
Yeah,
I forgot the name of the town.
I thought maybe it was you
Oh, well, anyway, we're supposed to talk about education.
I certainly have some ideas since I'm studying it now in college.
I'd say, first of all, they ne... |
Yeah,
it's
Plano, uh, improved greatly in the last twenty, twenty-five years
Yeah.
that's for sure.
It used to be the pits.
And Arlington is excellent now,
but I'm just speaking overall across the country.
Oh.
Yeah.
Something is definitely wrong.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, one thing, they don't spend as much time just teaching r... |
But, um,
So do you, what do you think is good about the schools?
That is good about,
well, it depends on where you are.
They're all so different.
That's another thing about the United States.
Yeah.
There's no national curriculum, you know,
I mean, what they'd be teaching in an Arlington school they may not be teaching ... |
Overall, Arlington is good, one of the better ones in the state,
so I guess we lucked out when we moved here.
Uh-huh.
So, yeah,
that's the thing is just to look at the school system in the area that you move into before you.
Uh-huh.
Of course we have a slight problem in that, uh, the number of the illiterate in America... |
But, uh. We actually rank forty-ninth in the world as far as just plain literacy goes, you know.
Um.
That's, that's pretty low that there's forty-eight countries ahead of us that have more more citizens percentage wise that can read and write,
Yeah.
so, um, unless we want to keep paying, paying for these people that ca... |
Uh-huh,
uh,
Up, up there, maybe, maybe you guys don't have as, uh, big a problem with air pollution as many, do you?
We, we, we have a terrible air pollution problem.
Do you really?
Our summers are extremely, uh, hazardous
Uh-huh.
and during, uh, certain wind directions because we get the, uh, Gary, Indiana Chicago pol... |
Uh-huh.
Uh, I don't think it's going to go very far,
but it, it was, uh, a way of, uh, triggering, uh, awareness.
Right,
right.
So what's the conditions like in Dallas?
Well, uh, in Dallas, I, I haven't seen air pollution quite on a, quite on a level that we had in Denver.
I grew up in Denver,
and, and I've lived there... |
and I
you know, there seem to be, at least in certain little pockets,
and we were talking earlier about Madison
Uh-huh.
Madison has one of the nicest, uh, bike, uh, road, uh, sharing programs of, of any city in Wisconsin
Oh, really.
and all Wisconsin has probably the most extensive number of, uh, bike trails for recrea... |
Send, send them to Wisconsin,
and we'll let them try to drink out of some of the lakes and try to fish in some of the lakes that have been suffering from, uh, the, uh, acid rain
Oh really
Uh-huh.
and they'll, they'll, they may wake up, you know,
Uh-huh.
how'd you like to own a piece of property where your lake is going... |
Uh-huh.
I had talked with my parents.
I, I grew up, uh, I was born in, uh, Muncie, Indiana, and, and grew up a little bit in Terre Haute,
and I had asked them before, uh,
I went back to visit recently, about a year ago,
and I asked them,
I said, did you ever realize the air pollution that was,
I'm sorry, um
That's okay... |
That's babies.
That's your full time, uh, hobby, right?
Takes a lot of time, huh.
I like, uh, most sports.
I like to do that.
I kind of like to do a little bit of sewing.
Uh-huh.
Oh, little bit of embroidery work, once in a while.
Uh-huh.
What do you like to do?
Um, I try to do some painting, although I'm not very good... |
I, I do some sewing, mostly out of necessity.
Um, I'm making drapes for my house, just because I'm,
Oh, boy, that's hard sewing.
Yeah,
well, it isn't and it is.
It is, you know,
actually the sewing isn't the hard part,
it's just being able to lay out the material and measure it because you need so much room.
Measure it... |
but,
Right,
right.
Yeah,
and I've, I've gone and, you know, put the needle through my thumb a few times trying to get it through
but,
That feels really good.
Yeah,
so that's not really my favorite thing to do or anything, but I, I need to do it.
To do it,
right.
I have, let's see, I have a dog, and a lot of fish.
Keepi... |
That's,
you don't have to do as much as, as I thought.
In fact, my problem,
I had fish as a kid
and they always died immediately,
Oh, no.
and, what, I'm, what I think now is the reason is I kept the tank too clean
Oh, you're kidding
because you have,
because they need to have a little bit of the,
Right,
you need to let... |
Right.
That's right.
So now only, I only clean things to make things look more aesthetically pleasing
Right,
right.
and I don't try and sterilize things
Don't go through the whole nine yards
and they kind of need a little bit of that.
That's right.
That's right.
So you've had fish for a long time.
Well, I've had them,
... |
No,
not yet.
Fifty-five gallons, you'd hope it would never do that.
That's right,
I really do.
But, you know.
Do you have all kinds of different fish
or,
Yeah,
I just have, you know, what they call community fish guppies, and platies and, and basic things.
Uh-huh.
I don't get into the
Real exotic.
right,
right.
The exp... |
and, you know, when you die, it's like, when they die it's more like an investment.
Yes,
I bet it is.
You lost an investment
so,
Do you have problems with them, uh, the fish eating each other?
No,
not really.
Only if there's baby fish.
Right.
You always have to isolate those.
Then you have to,
how do you isolate them?
... |
Okay.
and you put the mother fish in there
and then it's got like a trough underneath her
Okay.
so as the babies come out they fall down in the trough
and there's a hole in the middle so they fall into the bottom part of the chamber so the mother can't get to them either.
Oh.
And that's, you know,
it kind of works,
but... |
Isn't that odd.
Yes.
You wouldn't think that.
It, and it's funny because the one I have, every single month without fail she has babies.
You're kidding.
Oh, no.
All the time,
and, um, I,
and she's supposed to,
her variety, it says they won't eat the babies,
and I've seen her do it.
So.
And that just makes you sick almo... |
Yeah.
That's it.
Survival of the fittest or something.
Yes,
because if the baby is strong enough, it can swim away fast enough and go hide.
Right.
Go hide from them,
well and then, you think, well, how did they do it out in the real world anyway when these fish are in the tropicals or wherever they are kind of trying t... |
but they had a big win today.
Uh, did you get to watch it?
No,
I didn't.
I, uh, have been at my computer all day
so,
Oh.
Are you a Cowboy fan?
Well, I used to be a real big Cowboy fan
and, and, uh, I'm not a Jimmy Johnson fan.
Being an Okie I just really don't care much, uh,
Right,
yeah.
it's, it's kind of hard not to ... |
Right.
Right.
So, now have they,
they're in the playoffs, right?
Yeah,
they made it to the playoffs finally
like just, you know, two years ago they were one and fifteen.
They won like just one game
and so pretty fast turnaround.
But this year they made it to playoffs
and today was the first game
and they beat the Chica... |
Uh-huh.
Hit a bad season
and it's, you know, the coach's fault,
let's, let's dump him.
Right.
First good season, the coach can do no wrong.
Right,
exactly. You know.
But they Dallas has always been good ahead, you know, heading good players and both running, running backs and, and defense.
Uh-huh.
Right,
yeah,
uh, you ... |
Well, it's supposed to be the Redskins, but you know, we beat them already.
We beat them this year in, in Washington
so, you know, so everybody has the feeling like we can go all the way to the Super Bowl,
but, you know, it's just that we have to play every game away, you know,
it's going to be tough,
but, but
the comp... |
well the Cowboys are on a roll.
They've won, like, I think six or seven in a row now,
so they're supposed to be the hottest team in the, in the league going into the playoffs
so,
But, but since you have an O U drop out as a quarterback,
Right,
yeah,
Troy Aikman,
he got hurt at O U,
so he transferred to U C L A.
Well, W... |
they've, they've not had much of a team this year, bless their little hearts
Really?
Well, they're doing good tonight.
Are they?
Yeah
I haven't been watching.
they're winning. They're winning forty-one to seven.
Well, good for us
Yeah.
Right.
Oh.
But, yeah,
and, uh, that's right,
Aikman did go to O U.
I forgot about th... |
uh, U C L A.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So,
But, the Cowboys did good today.
I mean, I was proud.
I thought, I thought they would get beat today because, I mean they're so young, you know,
playoffs,
You bet.
They tell you our topic?
Uh, pets.
You've got it.
Do you have pets?
Yes,
we do.
Uh, my wife and I have a dog that soon be eight... |
Three dogs.
And two
what kind of birds do you have?
Parakeets.
No, kidding.
enjoy them?
Oh, have a ball with them.
You let them out and let them fly around and everything?
Well, no,
because my dogs chase them.
Okay.
So in order to have the birds not stuffed I have to keep them in their cages.
You know, this is like a c... |
because it's his well, the first one that we had was his bird,
and I had a ceiling fan put up,
and it, the bird got away from him one afternoon,
and I mean that sucker hit that fan and went flying up against the wall,
I thought, oh so much for the bird.
It killed him?
No,
he's still alive and kicking.
Oh, that's,
well,... |
We also had a,
one year down in Florida on a vacation, for Father's Day, my kids, years ago, maybe, uh, ten years ago, go, bought me a skunk from a exotic pet shop.
It'd be like, it'd been like deactivated as far as smell and everything,
Oh, my goodness.
and we had that darn pet skunk for about five years,
and, and my ... |
And it was sort of a neat,
but, they just stink too much
Oh, yeah,
oh, yeah.
That was sort of fun, you know,
I tell everyone this story because my wife is a real pet lover.
I use to visualize my wife,
many times my wife would be lying there on the sofa,
and this snake honestly would be stretched across the top of her b... |
Oh, gosh.
Oh, my son bought this snake, uh,
someone gave it to him when he was in junior high school,
and it was just a small thing then,
but it got to be pretty big,
and, you know, you'd feed it, you'd feed it, you put, feed him small mice to big rats and things like that
Uh-huh.
it's just, uh, too much.
That snake us... |
Yeah.
Haven't had any parakeets for quite a while,
birds.
Uh, customer of mine has a parrot,
and, uh, gosh, sticks in my mind he paid eighteen hundred dollars for a parrot,
and that was just mind boggling.
Oh, yeah,
they are so expensive.
Well, my son was just dying for a bird,
and I'm really allergic to them,
so I try... |
and all of a sudden this bird and I have become wonderful friends.
Oh, gosh.
He gives me kisses,
he talks now
That's neat.
and it's just hysterical.
I'm the only one that pays attention to him.
Why, sure.
And I'm a substitute teacher
and one of my fifth graders last year came up to me and said, high-pitched like a chil... |
I, uh like you, I haven't done any in quite some time except for what I call living now which is, which is very close to camping
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yeah
Is it?
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
You know, I, uh, camped in the Boy Scouts
and, you know, my dad and I went out sometimes
but uh, even my first, uh, eight or nine years of working, ... |
Uh-huh.
And we figured, what the hell,
we did it when we were kids
and we loved it.
Uh-huh.
Of course, we didn't really rough it that much.
When, when I was in high school,
he is a couple years older than me
and, uh, he graduated and went off to college
and, uh, during the summer we would camp out at the lake.
Uh-huh.
... |
and, uh, in the afternoon, you know, it is still four o'clock.
You have got four hours of day light, good skiing left.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, it was great.
Yeah.
But, uh, you know, now all my life is more like camping than not camping really.
Uh-huh.
Do you have electricity out there.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You've got a phone obvio... |
So, we are at the end of the mail route
Yeah.
Like I said, we are probably as far as you can get from the Seven Eleven and still be in Texas.
Yeah,
I guess so, huh.
But, uh, you know, right now, uh, what we did, my wife and I, is we got a mobile home. One of these twelve by forty-eight's that got repoed, And, uh, swapp... |
She said yep
and I said okay
Uh.
So, we have been roughing it out here for about three years,
but it is not bad.
I, we have color T V, microwave you know
Yeah.
it is not horrible,
but it's, it's a lot like camping.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
well I grew up in California, in in central California right in the valley.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh... |
so, uh we have kind of moved up.
Became civilized.
Yeah.
A little bit in the world.
Yeah,
my mom goes camping you know.
She takes her, uh, motor home.
You know, she's got one of these huge Winnebago's with a refrigerator and air-conditioning, color T V, microwave oven you know
Yeah.
She just,
roughing it for me is go... |
but you can't sneak ten dogs into a motel.
No
So, she, uh, you know, takes the motor home
And she made a deal with my dad that she would take all the dogs with her when she went dog showing.
Uh-huh.
And she,
if he would buy her a motor home
So he did
But as far as camping, my wife and I have plans to, uh, not really ca... |
We've really enjoyed them.
Yeah.
Where have you gone there?
We've gone to, um, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Ireland and England.
Uh-huh.
We've been to Germany twice.
Uh-huh.
But, um, I guess my favorite is probably Switzerland and Ireland.
Uh-huh.
Yeah
well, I've been over there too.
Uh-huh.
Where have you been?
I ev... |
but, I, once when I had a chance in France to go on vacation instead of travelling around France I went to Germany
Uh-huh.
because, uh, I've got relatives there
and I just like it there.
Oh, that's neat.
Uh-huh.
So, but, um, Austria, I found really pretty and Switzerland,
Uh-huh.
yeah,
and I, I lived in the Alps in Fr... |
Wow.
So, um, and you always have to go out, fly through, or unless you fly from Nairobi, you have to fly through, um, uh, Europe on your way home.
Uh-huh.
So, I went to England,
and I really liked it there too.
It's so expensive over there
I know,
it's true.
That's the one thing.
It really is.
It just, it's, it's,
I lo... |
just.
Right.
Then you can stay with them,
and yeah.
Uh-huh.
That helps a lot.
Yeah.
But.
You know there's a lot of places in the states that we haven't even gone.
Uh-huh.
You know, I'd like to go to Hawaii some time,
and and, uh, we made it,
Yeah.
we've, we've at least gone to the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls.
So.
U... |
most of my vacationing in the U S has been on the West Coast
Uh-huh.
or this summer I went to Colorado
Uh-huh.
and, uh, I'd love to go to the East Coast, during the Fall.
The, oh, the
it's, oh,
I've always wanted to go there.
I've seen pictures,
and, and it looks gorgeous.
Yeah.
We, um, we made a trip up the East Coast... |
It's just gorgeous over there.
Uh-huh.
I haven't been there, anywhere on the East Coast.
Yeah.
I think Tennessee has been the furthest east I've been.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Well, you'll just have to plan a vacation some time and, and go over there.
Yeah,
I guess so.
Yeah,
but there's, you know, there's a lot to see here
Uh-huh... |
Yeah.
and it's kind of nice to, to have that.
Yeah.
So the type of vacation you'd like, um,
like, would you go over and spend a lot of time in one place, or travel to whole bunch of different places in one week?
Well, usually a bunch of different places.
Yeah,
mainly probably because you want to see everything.
Right,
... |
I mean, they're not used to having tourists there,
so it's,
Uh-huh.
you're kind of roughing it.
But, um, I liked it,
I liked it.
Uh-huh.
The people there are just very, very friendly
and.
What type of work?
Um, I was working with an organization that does Bible translation.
Oh, okay.
So I was doing linguistic work actu... |
That's neat.
Yeah,
I enjoyed it.
So.
I've, I've always, um, I've talked to people who have been to Africa,
and they,
and then of course when that movie OUT OF AFRICA came out
Yeah.
Um, but I've always thought it would be neat to go on a safari over there.
Yeah,
my cousin came over while I was there,
and she came to Cam... |
Uh.
It sounds like we've been to some of the same places.
Yeah,
it does.
Well, uh, I don't know.
I think the budget is really out of hand right now,
and especially in this election year, I think that, uh, there ought to be at least some conversation about what we are supposed to do about this.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
it kind of ... |
Uh-huh.
Another ninety-seven cents,
hell you can buy a coke or something for that.
Yeah,
I mean, mostly it's, it's not actually a, a, a cut,
it's just a cut in the withhold, in the amount withheld, you know.
Yeah.
Um, yeah
I don't see this changing my lifestyle a whole lot.
That ninety-seven cents really isn't going to... |
I have a lot of respect for him
Yeah,
I mean that's better than George Bush who came out and said, No,
I will not and then, you know, ten months later he said, well, sorry, you know, I, I can't follow through on this.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
But it seems to me that, uh, that the budget is so out of hand,
and especially n... |
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah,
I, uh, I, I think that would be a great idea, you know, like the conservation corps, you know where.
Right, Exactly
It it it would help unemployment greatly.
And it.
and in that way we could really focus on building the infra structure of the country.
Yeah,
infra structure is in, is in,
I mean, we, we... |
Oh really,
where do you go?
Uh, I U.
Right,
I go to Georgia Tech, um.
Uh-huh.
And, in,
what,
I had you know, the required political science class a couple of years ago.
Uh-huh.
And one of the things we discussed was, you know, where our, where the budget how the budget situation just got so out of hand.
Right.
And esse... |
You, you just have to wonder what they're thinking in Washington.
I mean, it's just like they're playing chicken with a loaded gun.
Yeah,
uh, well, it's, it's more than a loaded,
it's a loaded cannon.
I mean they've got trillions of dollars to spend every year,
Yeah.
and they, in my opinion, don't do a very responsible... |
It,
I mean, I don't know,
I I don't, I don't think George Bush will make the American people happy with ninety-seven cents a week.
No,
no,
not at all.
I just don't think it was a well thought out incentive.
No.
, how do you feel about crime in the city?
You say you're from Atlanta.
Right,
I, I, I actually I live in the... |
Uh-huh.
I think it seems that there's certain areas where, uh, the crime is focused uh.
Uh-huh.
Well what do you think can be done about the crime in the city?
Well, I think it's, what's been happening over the last several years it seems they've been beefing up the police patrols, trying to put, put more guys, more co... |
Um, it's nowhere near as bad as New York City for example.
Uh-huh.
Probably not, not as bad as Detroit.
Uh-huh.
I don't think it's as bad as L A either.
No.
We, I don't think we have as much of the gang problem as a lot of the other cities have.
Yeah,
that seems to be true.
Um, yeah,
if you've ever been to like New Yor... |
You know, walk you know, walk with, you know, with just walk in a confidently,
With a big stick
or.
and, you know, don't, don't be looking around like you've never been there before and you have no idea where you are.
Right.
Sure.
Right,
don't, don't walk down a, an alley
or don't get
Yeah.
just try to keep yourself ou... |
Uh-huh.
but that was in a more of a, a setting where there was a number of people around,
and I kind of got,
I was much younger at the time
Uh-huh.
and kind of a couple of people, they just took it from me without me knowing really and kind of passed it off, so I didn't know who had it.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I've had that ha... |
Uh-huh.
I've had my car stolen,
so maybe that counts.
Oh, really.
Yeah.
Oh, where was, where, where was that?
Was that downtown
or,
Oh no,
that was in the northern um, up near Cumberland Mall area.
Really.
It's actually Cobb County,
but it is Atlanta
Metropolitan,
yeah.
and, uh, there's a lot of car thefts in that area... |
Yeah
My friend had a V W Rabbit,
and when he, when he got it back his, um, dashboard was sitting in the front seat
Yeah,
mine was just, it had been wrecked and some superficial type damage,
but they didn't, they didn't strip it
Uh-huh.
so I got it back.
Well, you're probably luckier than.
Yeah,
than most.
Uh-huh.
Um, s... |
there's a pin in there that you can pull on these G M cars
Uh-huh.
and you can start it up, basically pretty easily.
Uh-huh.
So how do you know this much about, um, stealing cars?
Well, after I found mine I had to, I had this,
So, how you like New Jersey?
Uh, it's pretty good, you know.
You get, uh, closer to the, uh, ... |
Right.
Actually very,
you know, you go even a few miles out and you got, uh, farms and everything
so you, relatively clear air.
Right.
But, uh,
Well, I don't know about you,
but I've always considered automobiles to be, probably the, the prime contributor.
I mean there's a lot of contributors,
but it seems that automob... |
Yeah,
and it's like,
You get the car that's in the accident
and muffler falls off or something
Sure.
and guy keeps driving along for long period of time after that.
Right.
I guess, from what I hear, though, uh, next year Ford is coming out with their electric cars.
They're actually coming out with the first prototypes ... |
It, it is coming from cars, though.
Uh, yeah,
I think that's a, that's a contributor definitely.
I mean, the, uh, car air conditioners is one of the major leaking sources of, uh, the, uh, freon. Which is one of the major fluorocarbons.
Right.
Right.
Yeah,
I guess right now what they're, what they're primarily worried a... |
Uh, in terms of,
Or, or they want the right to make the same mistakes themselves to bootstrap them up to the way, where we got to.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Uh, those of kind of, yeah, those are joining arguments,
but, uh, I don't know,
that's, that's kind of an interesting situation there.
Uh, what they don't realize, those t... |
you don't get that, that source of cleansing anymore.
Are, have you been in big cities a long time?
Mostly, I've mostly been in the east coast,
so that's going between Atlanta, D C area,
Okay,
so you've got,
Yeah,
those are actually areas that are hit pretty hard, I would think.
Well, not, not as hard as some places ou... |
I've lived in cities that really haven't had that much of a problem, although, uh, I'm really kind of based in Orlando, Florida
and there, you can tell that it's getting worse.
I mean, it, it definitely it's not at a level comparable to Los Angeles or Denver
but you can,
Yeah,
there, it's almost all automobiles because... |
I like Philadelphia Eagles.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Well, that that's all right.
That's my favorite team,
so.
Uh, now that Randall's coming back next season, I hope they'll be, do a little bit better.
They didn't do too bad last season.
Yeah.
But, I hope they can do better.
How about yourself?
Well, I don't know.
I kind of go... |
Yeah.
They're kind of,
They're not, they're not my favorite totally.
But I do like them.
I like,
yeah.
Seahawks are good.
They,
now that Steve Largent is gone, I kind of lose a little bit for them
but you know, he,
Yeah.
To be honest with you, I, I probably watch, uh, college a little bit more than I do pro.
Really?
Ye... |
I like I like the pros.
Is it?
They do, you know,
it's more high tech,
more, you know, players are apt to act a little bit different when they, when their jobs and their, when it's a job and not just, you know
Yeah,
yeah.
That could be.
when you're getting paid millions to do it, you I think they take it to another le... |
Yeah
there's a running team.
Yeah.
That, that, that's boring for me.
I, I'll take the passing teams any day.
Yeah.
But,
Well, I can see, I can see definitely how you get into that.
I, to be honest with you, I find that too much running gets pretty boring as well
and.
Yeah.
It's just, it's four yards, three yards eight ... |
It's high dollar.
You know, it's all, it's all money now.
Even college is all can we get on T V
Right.
so.
Yeah.
That's, that's,
So, uh, what's
this World League is coming in?
Uh, that's getting ready to start up, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Have you followed that very much
or,
Uh, not really.
I, I don't think anything will e... |
Yeah.
I mean, it, it, it can be, it can take over part of it.
But it's never going to be the next,
Right.
It can take over a small market share
but nothing really,
Yeah.
it's going to take a little bit.
Some people are going to watch it
but it's not going to be wide spread super bowl and every Sunday afternoon or anyth... |
Uh, I guess we're the only ones, who take it that far.
Everybody else still nuts over soccer
but,
Yeah.
Actually, uh, I kind of like soccer.
I've never really played it
Yeah?
but, uh, I like the idea.
It's, it's an interesting game to watch.
That and rugby.
I've like to watch, rugby every now and then.
Yeah
or Austral... |
Those guys kill each other out there.
Rugby is something else.
Yeah, .
Yeah,
there's an element there's definitely an element of stupidity in there somewhere
Yeah.
That's just wild.
That's why it's a a big college thing.
Yeah
Rugby is definitely big in college
because it's something a bunch of fraternity guys can get t... |
You've played it then?
But, you know, I don't think rugby will ever be professional
but it, it's, it's,
No I doubt it, you know.
Not, at least not in this country anyway.
No.
You can't stay healthy and do that.
That's a rough game.
Yeah.
It is.
But, uh, I don't know.
I don't know how my Eagles are going to do this ye... |
I don't.
To tell you the truth, I'm,
It, it's a small town.
It's about two hours,
it's in like central Minnesota.
It's a couple of hours, uh, west of Minneapolis.
Okay.
But, uh,
To tell you the truth, I'm not even really from here.
You just live there now.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm up here for a year on an internship.
Uh-huh.
Wel... |
and I, you know, I, I still like,
Really,
really.
I mean, I guess I could go for Miami
but I don't know.
Yeah,
but.
I'm from,
I root for Nebraska
so I'm, I don't have a real love for Miami anyway.
But, I don't know,
I, I guess, I get, into pretty much,
What do you think?
Well, uh, I can't be terribly authoritative on w... |
I mean you didn't have, uh, you didn't have video games.
You didn't have home computers.
You didn't have Xerox machines.
Right.
I mean, uh, you, you try to,
you go into a, a business today
and, you, you try to imagine the whole thing except running off of carbon paper
and it's almost inconceivable now because the Xerox... |
Right.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh
Right.
and because of that, these quote, unquote convenience type items have made work that much more intense and that much harder.
Right.
Because you're expected to work on stuff up until the last minute.
You're expected to,
exactly.
And I recently read an article on just this, that said stress t... |
We just hit buttons and keep going to the next thing.
So we have no relaxation time in between
Uh-huh.
so they say that's really a bad thing. That you need to learn a lot of ways to, to deal with that and get your, your time in between things.
Uh-huh.
So that's good.
That's an interesting point.
But I just think our, o... |
Well, there's that
and there's the fact that, you know, nowadays fewer and fewer couples are deciding to have kids which generally tends to happen.
I mean the U S would be actually declining in population slightly if it weren't for the fact that we, have continuation, large scale immigration into the country.
You're pr... |
I don't know either.
That's true.
And they're going to be really struggling
and I don't think that America is currently the type of environment where struggling up from the bottom is necessarily considered to be good
Right,
right.
I mean, it's no longer the, the, uh, the accomplishment that it, that it once was
and not... |
and they've got,
Okay Randall, uh, uh,
do you have any special interest in, uh, space flight?
Oh yeah.
Ever since I was a young and, uh, used to watch the old, uh, Apollo missions going off in, uh, classroom T V
Uh-huh
Uh, I suspect a lot of people, uh, uh, got, uh, turned on by watching, watching those go off.
Uh-huh.... |
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